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Mr_Default
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2023 12:08 pm    Post subject: Metal Gear Solid Master Collection Reply with quote

So Metal Gear Solid 1 has this really strange bug/misconfiguration.

It maps 8 way digital movement to the analog stick instead of true analog movements which make some boss fights absolutely infuriating.

I'm not sure if this is possible or not but I'm trying to use cheat engine to maybe restore the full analog functionality.

I found the addresses for movement

Movement Registry Address - 0227487C (Static for character it seems)
Movement Address - 00D9147C (The actual movement address that writes to it)

The value is 2089616521 but it doesn't seem to change anything, it only crashes if I change too much up or down.

If anyone has any ideas I would greatly appreciate it.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2023 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The OG playstation controller didn't have an analog stick

It's technically possible to hack on an entirely new system that maps analog input to player movement, but that's too much work for most people

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2023 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ParkourPenguin wrote:
The OG playstation controller didn't have an analog stick

It's technically possible to hack on an entirely new system that maps analog input to player movement, but that's too much work for most people


Dualshock 1 was fully supported on MGS. It's just that whoever Konami hired was dumb and didn't map the analog sticks properly.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2023 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

After less than a minute of using a search engine, it seems you have to turn on analog input.
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If a PlayStation game is DualShock or Dual Analog compatible, the player may press the Analog button located between the two analog sticks to activate the analog mode.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dual_Analog_Controller#Features

Also here:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/944753-metal-gear-solid-the-essential-collection/42149249

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2023 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah the problem is actually "pressing" the button. There is no option for it in the emulator. We're currently working on the details of that problem.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2023 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr_Default wrote:
Yeah the problem is actually "pressing" the button. There is no option for it in the emulator. We're currently working on the details of that problem.


Then it isn't the 'Master Collection' as per your title as I am certain that the publisher/developers would have implemented functionality for modern hardware for a remaster release.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2023 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alright so apparently in the master collection MGS1 analog input doesn't work and Konami isn't even acknowledging it as a problem (at least for now). Given M2 was the one responsible for MGS1 in the master collection, I'm not sure Konami will do anything.

Hacking on analog input would likely involve reverse engineering the included PS emulator. Neither I nor anyone else on these forums (AFAIK) have any amount of experience or knowledge in PS emulation.
Hopefully it's as simple as finding the emulator's input management system and telling it to press the "Analog" button. Worst case, there may not be any system for handling analog input, even if the code for it exists in the MGS1 ROM.

If you really need analog input, perhaps the best thing to do is to "find" the original ROM and play it using some other emulator.

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