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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 9:51 pm Post subject: Might be giving vegetarianism a try, then.
Watched this movie, cowspiracy, about the impact that animal agriculture has on the environment, and it's like, holy shit. It's so much worse than I had previously thought. With global warming being a serious threat to the future, I would find it hard to honestly consider myself as caring about the future of the planet if I fueled the industry that is causing the most damage.
Going to take this week to do research into how to get by healthily on a vegetarian diet, then next week I'm going to enjoy the shit out of my favorite meat foods one last time, and then attempt vegetarianism. Going to be real shitty, because currently I eat 0 veg. There's also a good chance I'll fail, which is alright too, but I suppose I might as well give it a try.
Check the movie out, if you have the time. As it turns out, meat is pretty bad for a lot of reasons, besides the fact that some animals are treated poorly.
How to satisfy bacon needs? If I can fill that role, and protein, I think I could do it.
And tbh I've been thinking about animals/meat for the past few months and the more I dwell, the more I get grossed out with every sandwich I make, or every burger I eat.. ffffffff why you gotta remind me again? _________________
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HackOtaku I posted the 500000th topic Reputation: 81
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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 10:13 pm Post subject:
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How to satisfy bacon needs? If I can fill that role, and protein, I think I could do it.
And tbh I've been thinking about animals/meat for the past few months and the more I dwell, the more I get grossed out with every sandwich I make, or every burger I eat.. ffffffff why you gotta remind me again?
Yeah, my concern is chicken, I eat a fuckton of it. I had also been thinking about animals and meat a while, and this was the straw that broke the camels back for me.
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only beef is shit, chickens take way less space, chicken is more healthy, etc etc
Yeah, I had been wondering of chicken myself, since this was mainly targeting beef (understandable as it's the most consumed meat), but I am not sure about it either, to be honest.
only beef is shit, chickens take way less space, chicken is more healthy, etc etc
Chickens are just as bad for the environment as cows are. hormones and antibiotics are fucked up bro. We're creating mutant chickens and penicillin resistant bacteria.
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Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2016 2:08 am Post subject:
Chicken is the meat with the smallest environmental impact, at least in my country. These things vary a lot from place to place because of the CO2 emission from the transportation. Like if you live near a place where they produce meat it's probably less eco-friendly to replace your meat with vegetables and fruit that came from hundreds of miles away. In my country most of the vegetables and fruits in the stores are grown locally, so going vegetarian is very good for the environment here, but I've heard that it's different in America.
I went veggy too to reduce my environmental footprint but didn't know how to eat well so I just started eating a shitton of bread with butter and cheese all the time, which was unhealthy as fuck, and I later found out that eating cheese is even worse for the environment than eating chicken, so then I started this weird no-meat-except-for-chicken,-and-dairy-except-for-cheese-diet but people kept asking me about it which annoyed the fuck out of me, and going vegan seemed like a little bit much at the time, so I just started eating whatever again.
Now, a couple of years later, I do still eat meat, fish, and dairy, but I cut back on it A LOT, and learned how to eat well. I think I only sin about once or twice a week, usually when I eat out or when someone else cooks for me, or when I get dem fast food cravings. But really, there's so many delicious and easy/quick vegan dishes that once you learn how to cook well, you won't miss meat at all. Cooking vegan is much less of a hassle than cooking with meat or dairy.
It's important to remember that you don't have choose between never eating meat again and eating meat every day. Avid meat-eaters and vegetarians and vegans often seem to forget this.
tl;dr eat locally grown food, you don't have to stop eating meat for ever you can just cut back it does wonders too.
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Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2016 2:21 am Post subject:
Well, I always eat fish, chicken,fish ,more fish.Oh, and today I eat squid.
Like what Adnihil had mention, its depend on the place that you're living. _________________
only beef is shit, chickens take way less space, chicken is more healthy, etc etc
Chickens are just as bad for the environment as cows are. hormones and antibiotics are fucked up bro. We're creating mutant chickens and penicillin resistant bacteria.
thats not what i meant for environment. i meant like all the co2 cows release and the land they destroy. yea the hormone and antibiotic thing is shit, but that can be easily fixed by moving the chickens into larger fields where the cows previously were. im sure more goes into this but surface level in general cows worse than chickens
im just waiting for lab grown meant, shit'll be cash
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Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2016 5:51 am Post subject:
The high school I went to assigns you a book every summer to read. When I was a freshman in highschool they assigned us this food book about nasty meat and how animals are treated etc. Prob more or less same thing as cowspiracy. First 2 weeks of school the salad line was packed. I still ate meat cos I didn't care. After 2 weeks people left the salad line and went back to eating meat l0l _________________
The high school I went to assigns you a book every summer to read. When I was a freshman in highschool they assigned us this food book about nasty meat and how animals are treated etc. Prob more or less same thing as cowspiracy. First 2 weeks of school the salad line was packed. I still ate meat cos I didn't care. After 2 weeks people left the salad line and went back to eating meat l0l
it was probably The Jungle. my friend had to read it as well. I read it last year for pleasure and that part you described isn't really what the book is about. it did lead to the creation of the FDA though, which I suppose would be good if they did a better job and everything wasn't still a clusterfuck.
The high school I went to assigns you a book every summer to read. When I was a freshman in highschool they assigned us this food book about nasty meat and how animals are treated etc. Prob more or less same thing as cowspiracy. First 2 weeks of school the salad line was packed. I still ate meat cos I didn't care. After 2 weeks people left the salad line and went back to eating meat l0l
it was probably The Jungle. my friend had to read it as well. I read it last year for pleasure and that part you described isn't really what the book is about. it did lead to the creation of the FDA though, which I suppose would be good if they did a better job and everything wasn't still a clusterfuck.
Pretty sure the actual function of the FDA is to roll in money
Chicken is the meat with the smallest environmental impact, at least in my country. These things vary a lot from place to place because of the CO2 emission from the transportation. Like if you live near a place where they produce meat it's probably less eco-friendly to replace your meat with vegetables and fruit that came from hundreds of miles away. In my country most of the vegetables and fruits in the stores are grown locally, so going vegetarian is very good for the environment here, but I've heard that it's different in America.
I went veggy too to reduce my environmental footprint but didn't know how to eat well so I just started eating a shitton of bread with butter and cheese all the time, which was unhealthy as fuck, and I later found out that eating cheese is even worse for the environment than eating chicken, so then I started this weird no-meat-except-for-chicken,-and-dairy-except-for-cheese-diet but people kept asking me about it which annoyed the fuck out of me, and going vegan seemed like a little bit much at the time, so I just started eating whatever again.
Now, a couple of years later, I do still eat meat, fish, and dairy, but I cut back on it A LOT, and learned how to eat well. I think I only sin about once or twice a week, usually when I eat out or when someone else cooks for me, or when I get dem fast food cravings. But really, there's so many delicious and easy/quick vegan dishes that once you learn how to cook well, you won't miss meat at all. Cooking vegan is much less of a hassle than cooking with meat or dairy.
It's important to remember that you don't have choose between never eating meat again and eating meat every day. Avid meat-eaters and vegetarians and vegans often seem to forget this.
tl;dr eat locally grown food, you don't have to stop eating meat for ever you can just cut back it does wonders too.
u kind of looked over this
the type of lifestyle the chickens are subjected to. how male baby chicks are literally poured into razor blenders and ground up alive because they're not wanted. the suffering is the real concern, and the fact that you've allowed such holocausts to be the norm (when if you've ever raised a chicken, you'd realise what loving, emphatic, intelligent creatures they are, i have 20) and become numb to them is scary.
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Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2016 10:27 am Post subject:
I agree that the suffering is the main concern. Either way you look at it, animals are conscious, living being that are capable of experiencing suffering, and they suffer a lot so that we can eat them. This is why I had been on the cusp of giving veg a try. The movie was the final push, though, after learning that not only is it a lot of suffering, but the consumption of meat is more harmful than just about anything else for the environment.
Chickens might be better than beef, I'm not sure of the facts on that, but at the end of the day, the amount of water and food that goes towards producing chicken is many magnitudes greater than the amount of water it would take to make a comparable amount of food from plants.
I'm not going to be HxC about it though. I'd say the best way to describe it is an economical vegetarian. I want to not support the industries that cause this with my wallet. But if say, for example, I go over to a friend's house and they've cooked up steaks for everyone, I'm not going to turn it down because of vegetarianism, because they've already bought and paid for it, my eating it is inconsequential.
As far as everyone jumping down your throat on vegetarianism: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I for sure never did, because it was around the same time that I was already mulling over the animal cruelty.
i grew up eating vegetarian indian dishes. ill still eat chicken or beef once a week because i enjoy it. but very picky about the quality. _________________
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