Someone donating to him means he represents them? ok
That seems more like donations from employees to be fair, but yes, large donations do mean that the politician represents them. When they ring up that politician's phone when he's in office, he'll bend to any requests, it's just what you do for donors, the spoils system.
Someone donating to him means he represents them? ok
Yes.
America isn't a true democracy, we are a republic. In a republic form of government, you elect officials to represent you.
Bernie has been claiming he doesn't represent corporations, when he infact does. Over a million of his campaign is raised from corporate donors. When corporations donate to a campaign, they often want a favor in return. This is called lobbying in American politics. It isn't a coincidence that tech corporations are funding Sanders campaign...they want Sanders to represent laws that benefit them in return.
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Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2016 3:44 am Post subject:
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This table lists the top donors to this candidate in the 2016 cycle. The money came from the organizations' PACs; their individual members, employees or owners; and those individuals' immediate families. At the federal level, the organizations themselves did not donate, as they are prohibited by law from doing so. Organization totals include subsidiaries and affiliates.
Missed a pretty important point on that site about that "data". _________________
This table lists the top donors to this candidate in the 2016 cycle. The money came from the organizations' PACs; their individual members, employees or owners; and those individuals' immediate families. At the federal level, the organizations themselves did not donate, as they are prohibited by law from doing so. Organization totals include subsidiaries and affiliates.
Missed a pretty important point on that site about that "data".
Well duh. If you know anything about campaign finances, the maximum donation for anyone to contribute to any federal campaign is $2,700. To bypass this, corporate owners have their family and top executive employees donate to bypass the limit.
The only difference between corporate donations from Clinton and Sanders is that Clinton is receiving corporate donations through super-PACS, meanwhile Sanders is receiving corporate money streamlined directly to his campaign.
"Bernie Sanders (Democrat), $13.7 million. The left coast likes the leftist Sanders, with Google (26 donors) and Microsoft (15 donors) being his top sources of corporate money. Wells Fargo and United Airlines each had 8 workers donating to Sanders, while Princeton University had 5."
Bernie Sanders is receiving corporate money just like the rest, he is lying to the public and getting away with it.
When he says he doesn't represent them he's saying his ideals and plans are not based on what they want. If something he stands for is something that by chance will also benefit him then sure, why wouldn't they fund him and why wouldn't he take that funding?
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Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2016 1:11 pm Post subject:
konr wrote:
When he says he doesn't represent them he's saying his ideals and plans are not based on what they want. If something he stands for is something that by chance will also benefit him then sure, why wouldn't they fund him and why wouldn't he take that funding?
Bc it makes him a hypocrite. Trump has had more people want to give him millions of dollars and he declines them whether their goals align or not. _________________
When he says he doesn't represent them he's saying his ideals and plans are not based on what they want. If something he stands for is something that by chance will also benefit him then sure, why wouldn't they fund him and why wouldn't he take that funding?
Bc it makes him a hypocrite. Trump has had more people want to give him millions of dollars and he declines them whether their goals align or not.
How the fuck does being funded make him a hypocrite when he is not saying he isn't funded by them? He's saying his views are not molded around what they want, they're molded around what he believes and if someone then agrees with that (corporation or not) and wants to fund him (which every candidate needs, obviously) then so be it. You're looking for such nit picky things.
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Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2016 2:08 pm Post subject:
konr wrote:
Antagonist wrote:
konr wrote:
When he says he doesn't represent them he's saying his ideals and plans are not based on what they want. If something he stands for is something that by chance will also benefit him then sure, why wouldn't they fund him and why wouldn't he take that funding?
Bc it makes him a hypocrite. Trump has had more people want to give him millions of dollars and he declines them whether their goals align or not.
How the fuck does being funded make him a hypocrite when he is not saying he isn't funded by them? He's saying his views are not molded around what they want, they're molded around what he believes and if someone then agrees with that (corporation or not) and wants to fund him (which every candidate needs, obviously) then so be it. You're looking for such nit picky things.
I understand what you're saying but thats not how it works. People don't just give you money like that and you just dont take money for free. _________________
When he says he doesn't represent them he's saying his ideals and plans are not based on what they want. If something he stands for is something that by chance will also benefit him then sure, why wouldn't they fund him and why wouldn't he take that funding?
Bc it makes him a hypocrite. Trump has had more people want to give him millions of dollars and he declines them whether their goals align or not.
How the fuck does being funded make him a hypocrite when he is not saying he isn't funded by them? He's saying his views are not molded around what they want, they're molded around what he believes and if someone then agrees with that (corporation or not) and wants to fund him (which every candidate needs, obviously) then so be it. You're looking for such nit picky things.
I understand what you're saying but thats not how it works. People don't just give you money like that and you just dont take money for free.
No, but if what he's saying aligns with what would help the company already then they'd fund him.
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Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2016 3:39 pm Post subject:
Clifford wrote:
atom0s wrote:
Quote:
This table lists the top donors to this candidate in the 2016 cycle. The money came from the organizations' PACs; their individual members, employees or owners; and those individuals' immediate families. At the federal level, the organizations themselves did not donate, as they are prohibited by law from doing so. Organization totals include subsidiaries and affiliates.
Missed a pretty important point on that site about that "data".
Well duh. If you know anything about campaign finances, the maximum donation for anyone to contribute to any federal campaign is $2,700. To bypass this, corporate owners have their family and top executive employees donate to bypass the limit.
The only difference between corporate donations from Clinton and Sanders is that Clinton is receiving corporate donations through super-PACS, meanwhile Sanders is receiving corporate money streamlined directly to his campaign.
"Bernie Sanders (Democrat), $13.7 million. The left coast likes the leftist Sanders, with Google (26 donors) and Microsoft (15 donors) being his top sources of corporate money. Wells Fargo and United Airlines each had 8 workers donating to Sanders, while Princeton University had 5."
Bernie Sanders is receiving corporate money just like the rest, he is lying to the public and getting away with it.
I lol'd. Thanks for the laugh this morning. _________________
When he says he doesn't represent them he's saying his ideals and plans are not based on what they want. If something he stands for is something that by chance will also benefit him then sure, why wouldn't they fund him and why wouldn't he take that funding?
Bc it makes him a hypocrite. Trump has had more people want to give him millions of dollars and he declines them whether their goals align or not.
How the fuck does being funded make him a hypocrite when he is not saying he isn't funded by them? He's saying his views are not molded around what they want, they're molded around what he believes and if someone then agrees with that (corporation or not) and wants to fund him (which every candidate needs, obviously) then so be it. You're looking for such nit picky things.
I understand what you're saying but thats not how it works. People don't just give you money like that and you just dont take money for free.
I don't think you know what donations are. _________________
When he says he doesn't represent them he's saying his ideals and plans are not based on what they want. If something he stands for is something that by chance will also benefit him then sure, why wouldn't they fund him and why wouldn't he take that funding?
Bc it makes him a hypocrite. Trump has had more people want to give him millions of dollars and he declines them whether their goals align or not.
How the fuck does being funded make him a hypocrite when he is not saying he isn't funded by them? He's saying his views are not molded around what they want, they're molded around what he believes and if someone then agrees with that (corporation or not) and wants to fund him (which every candidate needs, obviously) then so be it. You're looking for such nit picky things.
I understand what you're saying but thats not how it works. People don't just give you money like that and you just dont take money for free.
I don't think you know what donations are.
A specific donation to an election campaign legally is called a contribution. The difference in wording matters when you file for taxes, because you can get tax deductions if you include them on your taxes.
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