Cheat Engine

[seikur0]

Hey guys,
in the moment I'm working quite a lot with Cheat Engine and therefore I noticed some software features would be nice to have. I dont't know if this is the right place for this thread, maybe you can already request features somewhere else, but here I go:

-Dynamic offsets for pointers: The possibility to set the offset of a pointer from a simple "ED" for example to 1.:"[016F578B]" or maybe even something complicated like 2.:"[016F578B]*4+[016F576A]+0x87". While the second one might already be too much, the first one would be really handy. You could then use auto assembler script to reach the second complicated expression and store it somewhere and use it in the first expression.

-The ability to minimize the main window without minimizing everything else. It should be an option in the settings, because sometimes you just need that window space. Also sometimes you need other stuff open and visible like text editors or images so you should be able to turn off the always in foreground behavior in the settings as well.

-The ability to type in another window while you modify an adress in the main window. Often while searching for pointers you have an adress with a longer pointer chain and you need to see it or at least the base adress while working in the memory view window or maybe data dissect tool.

-The ability to copy register values like eax at any time not only when breaking a process.

-For an adress in the main window the ability to copy not only the base adress but the following adresses for each offset would be very handy.

-More advanced options for the data dissect tool to auto-determine variable types and when you have the structure the ability to quickly change the data type. 1-byte or 2-byte values might be nowhere in the game at all and you might know it, so the data dissect should be able to take that into account

-This would be really advanced but there could be a much much better pointer scan tool. Let me explain:
If you have an adress, you can scan, what accesses this adress, so you have the place in the code, where that happens. For example "mov [eax+7b],ebx". Now 7b is the first offset, doing it manually you would search for the place, where eax is modified, like maybe 5 lines higher mov eax,[ecx]. So 00 is the next offset. Now you would look for the code, that modifies ecx and so on. At the time of the "mov [eax+7b],ebx" instruction Cheat Engine can determine exactly the path in the code, the program went, because it has the code and the stack. Therefore this process of looking for a pointer could be done completely automatically. This is much better than the pointer scan tool as it is now. Now it just bruteforces the adresses. With the method I described it would really find them as they are in the code and as they are used, so it would be much more reliable. The theoretical tool would show all code lines of the pointer path with the corresponding adress in the code. So you could manually look for things like "mov eax,[eax+edx*4]" so you could manually adjust the offset at this place if edx maybe varies from 0 to 5 to adjust the pointer to point to one of 6 character stats. The tool can find even more complicated relations because it knows the stack and it knows the code. For more complicated constellations where the stack pointer is changed a lot, it could break the code at every place, where it lacks information and get these from the current stack and registers:
mov [ecx+08],ebx
inc ecx,4
mov eax,[ecx+0c]
->eax=ebx
All in all this feature would be so much helpful, it would be really revolutionary in my opinion.

Maybe some of these features are already included and I just don't know it. Who develops Cheat Engine anyway, is it a team? For the last tool I described, I would be interested in adding it myself to the program, if possible. Or maybe it would be possible with lua script, what do you think? Also what do you generally think of these features I described or maybe do you have another feature, which would be really handy but is not in the Program? I'm eager to see your answers.

Greetings, SeiKur0

[Redouane]

[seikur0]

[Chris12]

[STN]

I have to agree about the copying registers thing, after a breakpoint is set and game allowed to run you can't copy them anymore even though their values are shown correct.

Of course before a breakpoint their values can't be available but after that, i believe they are stored in a buffer somewhere or even the editbox/whatever it is using, it should be just a matter of copying them.

Rest of the feature requests don't apply to me or expect CE to be way advanced and guess things, i don't think they are even possible.

[Redouane]

[seikur0]

@Chris12: Yes I think that's about the same thing I meant, I just want it integrated in CheatEngine directly. It would be very helpful, if you could post it.