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Maes
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 Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 12:40 pm Post subject: A market section? |
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I think it'd be a nice idea if it had a few moderators, and there was a rule about bringing things from that section outside of the market, then that would stop drama.
It'd have the sub-sections: Completed Transactions, for logs, and Unresolved issues, to deal with sales/trades that didn't go so well.
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This is a game hacking site, why would we need a 'market'? If you want to sell something go to a legit site that has reputation in the field, like EBay. I doubt Dark Byte wants this kind of drama on the site when people get conned and so on.
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| Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 1:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Wiccaan wrote: | | This is a game hacking site, why would we need a 'market'? If you want to sell something go to a legit site that has reputation in the field, like EBay. I doubt Dark Byte wants this kind of drama on the site when people get conned and so on. |
I was brainstorming ideas to keep this site alive, but oh well.
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| /Rokurai/ wrote: | | Wiccaan wrote: | | This is a game hacking site, why would we need a 'market'? If you want to sell something go to a legit site that has reputation in the field, like EBay. I doubt Dark Byte wants this kind of drama on the site when people get conned and so on. |
I was brainstorming ideas to keep this site alive, but oh well. |
Why does everyone keep saying "keep this site alive"? It's not dead and far from it. It got a lot less quiet because multiplayer hacking isn't supported but it isn't dead.
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| Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 12:19 am Post subject: |
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| Wiccaan wrote: | | /Rokurai/ wrote: | | Wiccaan wrote: | | This is a game hacking site, why would we need a 'market'? If you want to sell something go to a legit site that has reputation in the field, like EBay. I doubt Dark Byte wants this kind of drama on the site when people get conned and so on. |
I was brainstorming ideas to keep this site alive, but oh well. |
Why does everyone keep saying "keep this site alive"? It's not dead and far from it. It got a lot less quiet because multiplayer hacking isn't supported but it isn't dead. |
*multiplayer hacking isn't supported* < this is what most ppl are here for, CE itself as a program is actually very easy and versatile to use, ppl dont need to come here (often) to discuss it
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To0k :]
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| Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 3:16 am Post subject: |
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| Wiccaan wrote: | | /Rokurai/ wrote: | | Wiccaan wrote: | | This is a game hacking site, why would we need a 'market'? If you want to sell something go to a legit site that has reputation in the field, like EBay. I doubt Dark Byte wants this kind of drama on the site when people get conned and so on. |
I was brainstorming ideas to keep this site alive, but oh well. |
Why does everyone keep saying "keep this site alive"? It's not dead and far from it. It got a lot less quiet because multiplayer hacking isn't supported but it isn't dead. |
No, it's dead aside from RS and GD.
Also, this idea is stupid since nobody would use it anyway.
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InternetIsSeriousBusiness
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| Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 5:00 am Post subject: |
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| lordsuperbas12 wrote: | | Wiccaan wrote: | | /Rokurai/ wrote: | | Wiccaan wrote: | | This is a game hacking site, why would we need a 'market'? If you want to sell something go to a legit site that has reputation in the field, like EBay. I doubt Dark Byte wants this kind of drama on the site when people get conned and so on. |
I was brainstorming ideas to keep this site alive, but oh well. |
Why does everyone keep saying "keep this site alive"? It's not dead and far from it. It got a lot less quiet because multiplayer hacking isn't supported but it isn't dead. |
No, it's dead aside from RS and GD.
Also, this idea is stupid since nobody would use it anyway. |
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Geri
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| Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 5:27 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | I think it'd be a nice idea if it had a few moderators, and there was a rule about bringing things from that section outside of the market, then that would stop drama.
It'd have the sub-sections: Completed Transactions, for logs, and Unresolved issues, to deal with sales/trades that didn't go so well. |
I don't see how can we resolve any issue without having detailed information. Zazzle has it's own customer service and the business is happening with them, not through the forum. How could anyone provide some kind of customer service about a business that is not even related to him? How do we know anything about transactions or logs and issues when we do not have access to their database? I am afraid I don't understand the concept of your suggestion because I lack some information about this business.
As for the other comments,
| Quote: | | *multiplayer hacking isn't supported* < this is what most ppl are here for |
And still, tens of thousands are downloading cheat tables from here. Probably this is the best place to get some cool cheats for single player games. Care to show some other sites where you can see quality stuff and it has a higher visitor ranking? You won't find, only miserable sites which are copying contents from here. If everyone is so convinced that this site is dead, show a better game hacking site. So far, I doubt you can.
Guess why? Because this is the only site where independent authors are posting cheats. Trainer maker groups have their own sites to promote themselves but independent authors are coming here in most cases.
Yes the number of visitors would grow massively if it would support multiplayer cheats but it would also bring unwanted attention too. It is up to DB to decide that he wants to receive 10 angry e-mails from different gaming companies every day or not. He could also allow warez, porn, pedofil content and a drug market and the visitor's number would be sky high. But this isn't a general "every shit" site, this is about one thing only.
| Quote: | | CE itself as a program is actually very easy and versatile to use, ppl dont need to come here (often) to discuss it |
Yes, it is very easy to use but still, making some good cheats require a bit more knowledge than "First scan, next scan, next scan, awesome". I didn't see you answering too many CE related questions since I am here but that is just because I am new here and I don't look at old posts. I am fairly sure that you know all about debugging, how are programs and game engines working, how to avoid anti-cheat methods, how to make a script in AA, work with pointers and so on. However, some people may need help with this because they aren't born reverse-engineers and while I prefer to figure out things alone, regardless how much time does it take, I admit it is easier to ask here. Of course debugging is not so interesting for most people so it is obvious that there aren't millions of topics every day about this, but still there are many questions out there. I am sure it would be useful if more experienced CE user would take the time to share some of his knowledge so feel free to teach some new tricks that you have figured out.
| Quote: | | No, it's dead aside from RS and GD. |
Of course RS has many posts but I doubt that it brings too many new visitors. Still, people are finding this site if they need help with cheating or if they have qustions about CE itself.
Before you say "it is dead", show something that is alive. If you cannot show another site with similar contents and more visitors, at least don't say anything because it is just useless negative comment without any kind of point or evidence that is supporting your statement. Google has the most visitors so I guess this forum should be changed into a search engine just to get higher numbers. Or how about a new "social networking" site? Those are also popular. It is easy to say that DB should do this or do that, but you are forgetting something. He is the one who made CE (the most popular game hacking tool) and he is the one who is running this forum. Don't like it? Do it better. Make your own tool which will make CE look like shit and also make a much more popular forum for it and make sure that you can deal with all the complaints from developers about ripping their stuff from inside out. Can't do it? Well it is better to just stay silent before someone ask:
What did you achieve to dare calling his work "dead"?
In this case for example, I am curious what are your personal achievements so I can decide that your opinion is worth to consider at all.
So far, I think your posts are just useless negative statements from someone who doesn't matter at all and of course no one is listening to a "nobody", but feel free to introduce yourself, your work and achievements and your point of view about this matter.
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| Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 6:29 am Post subject: |
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Once more Geri speaks the truth.
To get back on topic, no. A market section has nothing to do in here.
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To0k :]
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| Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 11:56 am Post subject: |
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@geri
We are stating that this site is dead, because it is. Im sorry but a few posts a day (mainly in RS) isn't an active forum.
| Quote: | | And still, tens of thousands are downloading cheat tables from here. Probably this is the best place to get some cool cheats for single player games. |
True. Though, these people do absolutely nothing to contribute to this site, so that doesn't make it an ''active forum''.
| Quote: | | So far, I think your posts are just useless negative statements from someone who doesn't matter at all and of course no one is listening to a "nobody", but feel free to introduce yourself, your work and achievements and your point of view about this matter. |
..wondering who the fuck you are.
Also, I didn't know you need to be ''important'' to speak truth. Guess what? Your opinion doesn't mean shit either.
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Geri
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| Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 2:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | ..wondering who the fuck you are.
Also, I didn't know you need to be ''important'' to speak truth. Guess what? Your opinion doesn't mean shit either. |
Well well. Seems like you are good at speaking the truth but cannot bear if it is about you. This is shit, that is crap, easy to say but it means nothing, especially because you don't have any point. As I have mentioned, if you know a better site with this kind of content, just say it. If you can't, then guess this is still the best. Don't just criticize the others, show it how you do it. You can say whatever you want but again, no one cares about an opinion from someone who has nothing to show.
I say this site is the best for game hacking and you say it is shit.
My point is, this site has the highest visitor ranking (other GH forums are not even close to this site) with this kind of content and it is usually on the first or 2nd page of Google if you look for cheats for a game. Do you know why? Because there are people here who are actually contributing instead of typing crap all day. You can see independent authors who are sharing unique cheats that you don't see elsewhere, only if it was leeched from here. Did you notice this? Guess not. As you also didn't notice that most people who are seeking answers about game hacking are usually ending up here because this is the place where they will get help instead of flaming. Game hacking is not the most popular topic but this site is still the best in that small community.
And now it is your turn to say something sensible if you wish to start an argument or you can rather stick to "who the fuck you are" and "I am important and I can say anything even if it doesn't make any sense", which wouldn't be a good impression. If you wish to debate something, it doesn't hurt to put some effort in it.
(Just on a side note, posts in RS does not count as "contribution", this is why it is called Random Spam. If someone is posting a table that is used by thousands of people and has some benefit to them, that is called a contribution.)
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Freiza
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| Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 2:39 pm Post subject: |
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Don't worry folks..
Geri alone is capable of running this forum.. and he is not alone.. there are many Genius running this forum . (like Recifense, wiccaan, and countless others)
and i think the only place to learn gamehacking.. (BTW cheat engine is the most popular and powerful memory scanner in the world . with tonnes of cool feature..)
And actually there are large community of people that likes single player over multiplayer.. like me)
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| Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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@geri
Do you have a fucking mental disorder?
I never said this site is shit. All I said it is dead, as in ''not active''.
Also, why should I show you ''something better''? Im not even interested in gaming at all, let alone ''game hacking/cheating''
And you don't need to be better at something just because you don't like it.
It's like saying ''I don't like rembrandt's style''
''YEAH WELL, U CANT TO BETTER SO YOU'RE SHIT LAL''
And debate?
I never said anything about debating, I just said my opinion and you're like mad about it. :/
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Dark Byte
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| Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 3:08 pm Post subject: |
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That the forum is less active is because I'm trying to shift the focus from quantity to quality
First off there is a filter on registrations that block people that have no imagination or just found ce by looking for online game hacks
Then there's a bit more active moderation, stupid posts are deleted quicker, and several people have had their accounts disabled without the possibility of recovering
And yes,because there is no multiplayer hacking on this forum that also diminishes the number of people, but it also makes it a lot less annoying for me to control
Of course, if you want to talk about online game hacks, just create your own forum and I might even redirect people to your forum (Just one rule: It must be public)
attached a picture of ce.org yearly traffic. I have no clue what happened in december (probably the holidays and people where bored) but the general trend is still going up
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| Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 3:09 pm Post subject: |
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@lordsuperbas12:
Do yourself a favor and just stop; your argument has no merit and the most you can do is just keep saying your opinion. At least Geri has a reputation on this site already so his opinion does have some weight.
The site isn't dead. Sure it lost a handful of people/posts/views per day due to the lack of MP support but its better then having no site at all and possibly the loss of CE all together with DB being in jail for being sued. Be happy this site even exists along with CE in general, and by happy that DB keeps it free.
If you think its dead, make something better rather then bitching about it here.
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