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Cryoma
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 11:24 pm    Post subject: Question. Reply with quote

I can do whatever the hell I want in a virtual machine and not worry about leaving a trace, right?
Like I just delete the VM and poof everything is gone?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yep
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mychilli on the Rocks! wrote:
yep

I almost feel like you're lying to me in hopes that I get v& for something bad.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you can do whatever the hell you want in your regular computer too then just delete stuff. I don't get what you're trying to ask
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 11:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It well erase anything that you downloaded during that session but it does NOT act as a proxy. It is most helpful when you want to test an untrusted program.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it uses the same IP an shit, i wouldnt do anything on the internet with it.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 11:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I mean like it won't leave file traces on my computer...
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 11:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cryoma wrote:
I mean like it won't leave file traces on my computer...


Probably not, for best results use HotSpot Shield IN the VM.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 12:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dalton. wrote:
Cryoma wrote:
I mean like it won't leave file traces on my computer...


Probably not, for best results use HotSpot Shield IN the VM.
He's not talking about internet, he's talking about on his computer.

So if he puts his child pornography on a VM, and then gets rid of the VM, whether there'll be a trace of said child pornography on his computer.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 1:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends, I mean, if we assume it JUST emulates the OS, then probably. Just delete the reserved memory. But don't forget, its probably still traceable for a while, since I believe when a machine allocates RAM for the VM and writes to disk, it doesnt bother to encrypt it. I however doubt it logs all actions taken in a secret file to send to the FBI in the case of criminal actions. Well, mostly. Just in case, don't use anything which Oracle owns.

P.S.: By a while, I mean that the memory blocks are marks as unused, but until they are used again, the old data is still there, hence why recovery programs work. As far as RAM goes, it's as simple as turning off the computer or running a large program to consume and rewrite to memory (god forbid that EXACTLY the information you want erased end up on the pagefile, but thats doubtful). However, on the hard disk, its a bit trickier, you can run a program to write random data I believe, or you could just, you know, run a large program, force RAM to pagefile, and hope it happens to use that same newly deallocated disk space.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 1:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

elpacco wrote:
Dalton. wrote:
Cryoma wrote:
I mean like it won't leave file traces on my computer...


Probably not, for best results use HotSpot Shield IN the VM.
He's not talking about internet, he's talking about on his computer.

So if he puts his child pornography on a VM, and then gets rid of the VM, whether there'll be a trace of said child pornography on his computer.

Exactly what OP had in mind.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 3:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes this is exactly what I was looking for thanks everyone.
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