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ziv121

After an hour of non success with solving that step, I tried the long guide someone wrote in here.
I get stuck, I have no idea why. This is how it goes:
I search for the value. I find him. I look for "what writes". I change value, I get a line over there. I press more info, I get the "needed value". I search in HEX for the "needed value", I get one result. I manually adding an address, adding pointer. Address of the pointer is the address of the value I just searched for, offset is 18 (That's from the "more info"). Pressing OK, now pressing the pointer, choosing what writes, and choose "what reads from".
Changing the value in the tut, getting one line again. The same line I got the recent search. The same value I got last search. Offset is 18 (Should be 0 by the guide), and the exactly same value.
Sorry for the noob question, I swear I tried over 10 times to see what's wrong, I reinstalled CE, I'm out of ideas.
What am I doing wrong / what is wrong?
Thanks

Labyrnth · Moderator Reputation: 10 Joined: 28 Nov 2006 Posts: 6301

It is a multilevel pointer.
You may see one offset as 18 but there are 3 more if I remember correctly.
To get to the base address.
This is where pointer scan will help you out instead of mnually digging it out. But it is good your trying to do it manually. It will teach you more.

ziv121 · Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 10:55 pm Post subject:

I know its a multilevel pointer.
That's why I looked for what writes, got the 1st pointer, and when I search for what reads from the pointer, it gives me the same value I got from what writes from the original value's address.
Sorry if I'm a not understandable, I'm trying my best >.>
And thanks

Labyrnth · Moderator Reputation: 10 Joined: 28 Nov 2006 Posts: 6301

If I remember correctly, you do a hex scan to find the next level.
Keep doing hex scan on each one till you get to the pointer.
There is a complete tutorial on this step somewhere, very well written out.

ziv121 · Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 12:22 pm Post subject:

I know, that's what I've done, the "long way" tutorial. And that's where I get stuck. I just read my first post, its detailed enough to understand where my problem is, if you could re-read it it would be appreciated. =)

manc · Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 11:59 pm Post subject:

http://forum.cheatengine.org/viewtopic.php?t=74826

ziv121 · Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 8:47 am Post subject:

OK, I solved this step.
One question I have left about it. When I tried to "read from what writes", it didn't work. Only when I used what accesses it worked. What does that mean?

Dark Byte · Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 11:53 am Post subject:

When you used find what writes , you probably didn't click on the change value button, OR you used find what writes on the pointer address instead of the value. When using a pointer address, always use access.

also, when looking for pointers, it's generally a better idea to use find what accesses all the time, even for the value