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darkspikex
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 Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 2:38 am Post subject: how can i get my original harddisk space back? |
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My problem is that when i bought my computer the hdd had a space of 200GB i have formatted my computer a couple of times and i noticed that every time i formatted it doesnt go back to 200GB it stays at 180GB 
anybody knows why this happens?
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| Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 3:14 am Post subject: |
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| You'll never be able to utilize the full actual size of the hard disk, a lot of it will be taken up by your operating system's boot files, disk format information and other stuff necessary to run your computer.
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darkspikex
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| Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 3:17 am Post subject: |
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| omgwtfheks wrote: | | You'll never be able to utilize the full actual size of the hard disk, a lot of it will be taken up by your operating system's boot files, disk format information and other stuff necessary to run your computer. |
ok thanks
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| Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 3:24 am Post subject: |
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| omgwtfheks wrote: | | You'll never be able to utilize the full actual size of the hard disk, a lot of it will be taken up by your operating system's boot files, disk format information and other stuff necessary to run your computer. |
no.
HD manufacturers measure space by 1000's instead of 1024's.
this is why there is a chunk of space "missing".
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HybridStigmata
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| Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 3:32 am Post subject: |
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uh you might have to format just your drive ..
or, when you formatted your computer, you allocated 180 to that drive and the missing 20 to the other drive ..
edit: sorry, i thought you had the full 200 the first time you used
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| Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 3:39 am Post subject: |
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| slovach wrote: | | omgwtfheks wrote: | | You'll never be able to utilize the full actual size of the hard disk, a lot of it will be taken up by your operating system's boot files, disk format information and other stuff necessary to run your computer. |
no.
HD manufacturers measure space by 1000's instead of 1024's.
this is why there is a chunk of space "missing". |
Correct, instead of using the correct 1024 Bytes, they calculate their storage spaces using 1000 Bytes...
Therefore when you buy, for example a 1TB HDD, Window's will show it to you as 931GB, or 1,000,202,240,000 Bytes instead of 1,099,511,627,776 Bytes. Not exactly 1000Bytes but not exactly 1024Bytes either...
The higher the HDD space is, the more loss you will lose.
E.G
320GB = 288Gb (Loss of 32Gb)
1TB = 931Gb (Loss of 69Gb)
Hold on, that doesn't explain why he originally had 200GB and now has 180GB.
Questions:
1. Did your PC Seller say 200GB or did it say 200GB in My Computer?
2. When you reformat? What OS did you originally have and what OS did you change to if any? If you switched between XP/Vista/7, there is a difference in installation size...
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darkspikex
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| Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 4:06 am Post subject: |
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| iTz SWAT wrote: | | slovach wrote: | | omgwtfheks wrote: | | You'll never be able to utilize the full actual size of the hard disk, a lot of it will be taken up by your operating system's boot files, disk format information and other stuff necessary to run your computer. |
no.
HD manufacturers measure space by 1000's instead of 1024's.
this is why there is a chunk of space "missing". |
Correct, instead of using the correct 1024 Bytes, they calculate their storage spaces using 1000 Bytes...
Therefore when you buy, for example a 1TB HDD, Window's will show it to you as 931GB, or 1,000,202,240,000 Bytes instead of 1,099,511,627,776 Bytes. Not exactly 1000Bytes but not exactly 1024Bytes either...
The higher the HDD space is, the more loss you will lose.
E.G
320GB = 288Gb (Loss of 32Gb)
1TB = 931Gb (Loss of 69Gb)
Hold on, that doesn't explain why he originally had 200GB and now has 180GB.
Questions:
1. Did your PC Seller say 200GB or did it say 200GB in My Computer?
2. When you reformat? What OS did you originally have and what OS did you change to if any? If you switched between XP/Vista/7, there is a difference in installation size... |
1. the seller and my computer said 200GB
2. it came with xp i then installed vista and now its xp again
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| Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 4:46 am Post subject: |
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| darkspikex wrote: | | iTz SWAT wrote: | | slovach wrote: | | omgwtfheks wrote: | | You'll never be able to utilize the full actual size of the hard disk, a lot of it will be taken up by your operating system's boot files, disk format information and other stuff necessary to run your computer. |
no.
HD manufacturers measure space by 1000's instead of 1024's.
this is why there is a chunk of space "missing". |
Correct, instead of using the correct 1024 Bytes, they calculate their storage spaces using 1000 Bytes...
Therefore when you buy, for example a 1TB HDD, Window's will show it to you as 931GB, or 1,000,202,240,000 Bytes instead of 1,099,511,627,776 Bytes. Not exactly 1000Bytes but not exactly 1024Bytes either...
The higher the HDD space is, the more loss you will lose.
E.G
320GB = 288Gb (Loss of 32Gb)
1TB = 931Gb (Loss of 69Gb)
Hold on, that doesn't explain why he originally had 200GB and now has 180GB.
Questions:
1. Did your PC Seller say 200GB or did it say 200GB in My Computer?
2. When you reformat? What OS did you originally have and what OS did you change to if any? If you switched between XP/Vista/7, there is a difference in installation size... |
1. the seller and my computer said 200GB
2. it came with xp i then installed vista and now its xp again |
So when you first had XP, it was 200GB, but when you switched to Vista it said 180GB?
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darkspikex
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| Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 5:36 am Post subject: |
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| iTz SWAT wrote: | | darkspikex wrote: | | iTz SWAT wrote: | | slovach wrote: | | omgwtfheks wrote: | | You'll never be able to utilize the full actual size of the hard disk, a lot of it will be taken up by your operating system's boot files, disk format information and other stuff necessary to run your computer. |
no.
HD manufacturers measure space by 1000's instead of 1024's.
this is why there is a chunk of space "missing". |
Correct, instead of using the correct 1024 Bytes, they calculate their storage spaces using 1000 Bytes...
Therefore when you buy, for example a 1TB HDD, Window's will show it to you as 931GB, or 1,000,202,240,000 Bytes instead of 1,099,511,627,776 Bytes. Not exactly 1000Bytes but not exactly 1024Bytes either...
The higher the HDD space is, the more loss you will lose.
E.G
320GB = 288Gb (Loss of 32Gb)
1TB = 931Gb (Loss of 69Gb)
Hold on, that doesn't explain why he originally had 200GB and now has 180GB.
Questions:
1. Did your PC Seller say 200GB or did it say 200GB in My Computer?
2. When you reformat? What OS did you originally have and what OS did you change to if any? If you switched between XP/Vista/7, there is a difference in installation size... |
1. the seller and my computer said 200GB
2. it came with xp i then installed vista and now its xp again |
So when you first had XP, it was 200GB, but when you switched to Vista it said 180GB? |
when i switched from xp to vista it was 200GB but when i did vista-xp it said 180GB
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| Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 6:06 am Post subject: |
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| darkspikex wrote: | | iTz SWAT wrote: | | darkspikex wrote: | | iTz SWAT wrote: | | slovach wrote: | | omgwtfheks wrote: | | You'll never be able to utilize the full actual size of the hard disk, a lot of it will be taken up by your operating system's boot files, disk format information and other stuff necessary to run your computer. |
no.
HD manufacturers measure space by 1000's instead of 1024's.
this is why there is a chunk of space "missing". |
Correct, instead of using the correct 1024 Bytes, they calculate their storage spaces using 1000 Bytes...
Therefore when you buy, for example a 1TB HDD, Window's will show it to you as 931GB, or 1,000,202,240,000 Bytes instead of 1,099,511,627,776 Bytes. Not exactly 1000Bytes but not exactly 1024Bytes either...
The higher the HDD space is, the more loss you will lose.
E.G
320GB = 288Gb (Loss of 32Gb)
1TB = 931Gb (Loss of 69Gb)
Hold on, that doesn't explain why he originally had 200GB and now has 180GB.
Questions:
1. Did your PC Seller say 200GB or did it say 200GB in My Computer?
2. When you reformat? What OS did you originally have and what OS did you change to if any? If you switched between XP/Vista/7, there is a difference in installation size... |
1. the seller and my computer said 200GB
2. it came with xp i then installed vista and now its xp again |
So when you first had XP, it was 200GB, but when you switched to Vista it said 180GB? |
when i switched from xp to vista it was 200GB but when i did vista-xp it said 180GB |
1. Right Click My Computer and select Manage.
2. On the left, Select Storage > Disk Management.
3. Screenshot and upload.
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its in dutch so i dont know if u can do anything with it 
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| Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 11:20 am Post subject: |
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You are not loosing any drive space, it's just calculated differently.
Like others have said, hard drive makers calculated as 1MB = 1000KB
while Windows calculated 1MB as 1024KB.
To calculate your hard drive, you will need to take the whole partition and multiply it by .93.
So for your 200GB, you'll take 200 * .93 and you get 186GB
For 1TB it's 1000 * .93 and you get 930GB
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| Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 2:00 am Post subject: |
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| kls85 wrote: | You are not loosing any drive space, it's just calculated differently.
Like others have said, hard drive makers calculated as 1MB = 1000KB
while Windows calculated 1MB as 1024KB.
To calculate your hard drive, you will need to take the whole partition and multiply it by .93.
So for your 200GB, you'll take 200 * .93 and you get 186GB
For 1TB it's 1000 * .93 and you get 930GB |
Still doesn't explain why he had originally seen 200GB, then in Vista saw 200GB, and when went back to XP was 186GB...
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| Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 3:15 am Post subject: |
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| iTz SWAT wrote: | | kls85 wrote: | You are not loosing any drive space, it's just calculated differently.
Like others have said, hard drive makers calculated as 1MB = 1000KB
while Windows calculated 1MB as 1024KB.
To calculate your hard drive, you will need to take the whole partition and multiply it by .93.
So for your 200GB, you'll take 200 * .93 and you get 186GB
For 1TB it's 1000 * .93 and you get 930GB |
Still doesn't explain why he had originally seen 200GB, then in Vista saw 200GB, and when went back to XP was 186GB... |
because he mis-remembered.
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| Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 3:17 am Post subject: |
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| iTz SWAT wrote: | | kls85 wrote: | You are not loosing any drive space, it's just calculated differently.
Like others have said, hard drive makers calculated as 1MB = 1000KB
while Windows calculated 1MB as 1024KB.
To calculate your hard drive, you will need to take the whole partition and multiply it by .93.
So for your 200GB, you'll take 200 * .93 and you get 186GB
For 1TB it's 1000 * .93 and you get 930GB |
Still doesn't explain why he had originally seen 200GB, then in Vista saw 200GB, and when went back to XP was 186GB... |
It's possible to fuck a format to make shit look better than it actually is. Ever heard of those 16GB-but-actually-2GB flash drives that are fairly commonly seen on ebay that appear as 16GB but shit themselves if they go over 2GB? Well, the same can apply to HDDs. It's probable that, even though the space showed, he never actually had it in the first place. Besides, have you ever heard of a healthy drive advertised as 215GB, the approximate advertised space needed to actually get 200GB?
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