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PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2009 9:09 am    Post subject: why has this happend? Reply with quote

well my computer used to be able to play my games full speed no problem im mainly playing oblivion and fallout3 but now it plays them all jumpy D: can anyone pls tlel me why this happens i defraged my pc and it didnt do anything.

how can i get my pc to play my games like it did before D:

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PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2009 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That happened to me too on my laptop, and in 2 years i was never given any answer..
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PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2009 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You've got new processes which are taking your CPU when your playing games.

Defragging your comp does nothing to help with game lag. Defragment only moves files so that disk room on the HDD are left organised.

You've probably got alot of background processes which are taking your CPU a long time to process.. Try and close then via task manager. You can also try and expand your paging file.
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PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2009 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let's see... over the years XP was slim and it was fast, but it was prone to security holes and other issues. 6 years later XP is all armor and secure, which has gain quite some weight (service packs 1,2,3+Updates). Your laptop was designed for the OS of that time, not now. So you can try to do is backup your stuffs and do a clean install.

If that does not work switch to a leaner OS or better off get yourself a new machine.


Machine from 5 years ago are designed for XP but it's got no SP.
Install XP with SP3 on to those machines without any hardware upgrades and you see they run like molasses.

If you got Vista, update your graphic drivers if your game is jumpy.
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PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2009 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kls85 wrote:

If you got Vista,


Downgrade to XP. 1 gb of ram for the aero graphics is not worth it. 500 mb of ram can be used for something better.

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PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2009 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kls85 wrote:
Let's see... over the years XP was slim and it was fast, but it was prone to security holes and other issues. 6 years later XP is all armor and secure, which has gain quite some weight (service packs 1,2,3+Updates). Your laptop was designed for the OS of that time, not now. So you can try to do is backup your stuffs and do a clean install.

If that does not work switch to a leaner OS or better off get yourself a new machine.


Machine from 5 years ago are designed for XP but it's got no SP.
Install XP with SP3 on to those machines without any hardware upgrades and you see they run like molasses.

If you got Vista, update your graphic drivers if your game is jumpy.


yeah ok.

if there's a performance change, it's hilariously small.
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PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2009 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

have you tried cleaning out the dust in your PC?
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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2009 12:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i doubt service packs would decrease performance, but that's just my opinion. if you haven't formatted your computer in a while, you've probably got a shitload of crap that's built up over time, and a lot of extra processes that are unneccesary to be running in the background. you can run msconfig to stop some programs from starting up with windows if you don't need them, or download a program that'll end your unnecessary processes before you play a game.

or it could just be what some people call windows rot.

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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2009 6:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SoulessLove wrote:
have you tried cleaning out the dust in your PC?


lol i just checked and my comp has a pile of dust! LOL

but yeah maybe clean it?

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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2009 7:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

FullyAwesome - many people said, that XP SP3 decreased the performance of their os.

To the threadstarter:
Download:
CCleaner
ATF-Cleaner
TuneUp Utilities 2009

Search for:
Windows (your OS here) service optimization
TuneUP Utilities guide (if you're complete beginner)

Do:
Check your hardware temperatures, clean the fans and the whole chassis.
Stop autostart of useless programs.
Stop useless programs or such, that you don't use at this moment.
Check which process is taking most CPU and RAM.
Update your video drivers.
Optimize your services and OS.
Check for rootkits and viruses using Malwarebyte's Anti-malware, Hijackthis, Autoruns and gmer (all free, but for advanced users, except mbam).
Stop your AV/FW while playing (don't stop the FW while playing MMO's).
Refresh your Windows installation.
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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2009 8:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

@KLamer you obviously do not know your stuff clearly. You just dump all the things you know into this post without any analysis of the poster's problem.

Say, why do you refresh your windows installation after performing the above steps. Are you retarded?

And why ask the person to update his/her video drivers. Didn't you see the problem there? The game was running smoothly last time, but now it starts to get jumpy. This mostly like is a result of graphics card is starting to have problems or the computer do not have enough memory to make sure the game runs smoothyl. Your solution to updating video drivers will only be useful when the person's video drivers is extremely outdated and the game have made major upgrades in the game.

There are still other useless points you mentioned but I will not expand further, since it is pointless and will not help the poster.

And like fullyawesome have mentioned, Windows "rot". It is the most probable reason.

A simple solution I have here is a reformat. It is the simplest solution, then you can check whether the game is still jumpy after reformatting. Make sure you reinstall all your drivers and directx.

If it still does, check your hardware. There are definitely no other reasons why the game is still jumpy after a reformat. Unless you have more than one drive. For say C:\ and D:\. You should do a scan on the non-reformatted drive or might as well reformat it as well.
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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2009 9:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SoulessLove wrote:
have you tried cleaning out the dust in your PC?


You have to try this! I had the same problem. Clean out the dust of your fans. Very Happy

Otherwise: Reinstall your PC Wink
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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2009 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was feeling some odd random 2-3sec freeze a week ago, and i decided to clean my computer. and voila! it worked.
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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2009 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey, could the temperature going till 170+ farenheit for me be the reason my laptop lags and freezes for almost every application?

And when i start an application it takes 100% of the cpu before going lower to 10%'s.
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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2009 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

slovach wrote:
kls85 wrote:
Let's see... over the years XP was slim and it was fast, but it was prone to security holes and other issues. 6 years later XP is all armor and secure, which has gain quite some weight (service packs 1,2,3+Updates). Your laptop was designed for the OS of that time, not now. So you can try to do is backup your stuffs and do a clean install.

If that does not work switch to a leaner OS or better off get yourself a new machine.


Machine from 5 years ago are designed for XP but it's got no SP.
Install XP with SP3 on to those machines without any hardware upgrades and you see they run like molasses.

If you got Vista, update your graphic drivers if your game is jumpy.


yeah ok.

if there's a performance change, it's hilariously small.


That was just an easy way for others to understand why their machine does not run the way their suppose to, even though there are other factors as well.

One thing for sure is after installing .net 3.5 sp1 the machine will decrease in performance even on a clean install.
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