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rave_nick
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 Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 12:40 am Post subject: Almost done with my rig |
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Alright this is my first rig i ever built im only 15 and just getting into computers.
WINDOWS XP Professional 64Bit
Intel Core 2 Duo Processor E8500 3.16 GHz
X-FI Xtreme Gamer Soundcard
PNY 9800GT Graphics Card
nVidia 790i Ultra SLI Motherboard (got it for 50$ lol)
1000W power Supply
2GB DDR3 RAM
1TB HardDrive
Rate it and tell me what I should upgrade; I was on a 1400$ Budget
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| Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 12:44 am Post subject: |
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1000W?
WHAT WERE YOU THINKING.
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| Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 12:44 am Post subject: |
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| Whats wrong with 1000W?
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| Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 12:49 am Post subject: |
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| 1000W is over kill, i mean you dont need 1000w to run that type with the specs you showed us.
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| Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 12:51 am Post subject: |
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| unless he goes three way 295 sli
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| Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 12:54 am Post subject: |
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| So i should downgrade the power supply to what?? And what else should i upgrade
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| Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 12:55 am Post subject: |
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Ew.
Windows XP x64
LOLPOORDRIVERBASEANDSUPPORT.
Also, your build sssssucccckks.
And its cheaper than yours.
Even if I had to include my wonderful buttbuddy, this ASUS monitor, it wouldn't be much more expensive than yours.
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XP 64-bit was and still is a pretty big fail. Even Microsoft's own first-party software was not completely 64-bit, and the market was not ready for the switch to 64-bit. Vista x64 would be preferable.
Assuming your dual core is an E8500, that wasn't that great of an idea. A similar E8400 or E8300 with a slightly lower multiplier would have saved you a decent amount of money. Anyways, the performance could have been improved by OC'ing by under a 20MHz core clock increase.
There's not a very good reason to get an X-Fi card, or really any dedicated sound card. The difference is very little for the premium you pay for a sound card. Unless you're an audiophile with a high-end sound system, then that sound card is mostly wasted money.
Depending on your location (well, actually that would tilt everything I'm saying), you could have gotten something far better with a $1400 budget. A GTX 260 or HD 4870 1GB would yield a good 30-50% performance increase, while still probably fitting in your budget, assuming you got your parts from Newegg.
Sure, go with that.
1000W is overkill for any kind of build. At the most, a dual GTX 295 solution with a uber-high end Core i7 would probably suck up about 650-700W, and after calculating for PSU inefficiencies and how each component handles power, than a good 800W PSU would handle it. You would have been fine with a 400W PSU (or less), assuming that it supplied 22A on the 12v rail.
Even if you want to use a 64-bit OS for performance improvements, I would still recommend that you have 4GB or more RAM to really take advantage of the extra memory-mapping capabilities of 64-bit Windows. Also, DDR3 doesn't go that well with Core 2 Duo-based computers, unless you're doing some major, high-FSB overclocking.
A 1TB HD is fine if you need that kind of space.
5/10. You could have specified the exact parts, and where you got the parts.
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| Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 1:00 am Post subject: Re: Almost done with my rig |
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| rave_nick wrote: | Alright this is my first rig i ever built im only 15 and just getting into computers.
WINDOWS XP Professional 64Bit
I'd recommend Vista or 7 over XP x64. Lots of programs (esp. Microsoft/Live) don't have a 64-bit version that works with XP.
Intel Dual Core processor 3.16 GHz
Old. Get a Core 2 Duo or better.
X-FI Xtreme Gamer Soundcard
Often not necessary, onboard sound is sufficient.
PNY 9800GT Graphics Card
That's alright, I'd go for one of the newer NVidias for that price.
nVidia 790i Ultra SLI Motherboard (got it for 50$ lol)
Keep it since you got it cheap.
1000W power Supply
Overkill. Get a high quality 500W from a good company.
2GB DDR3 RAM
Since you got the 790i Ultra so cheap, you may as well go with these.
1TB HardDrive
Nothing to say.
Rate it and tell me what I should upgrade; I was on a 1400$ Budget |
If you haven't built yet, we can give you suggestions. If you have, then you chose poorly.
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| Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 1:10 am Post subject: |
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Alright im gonna make it so my rig will be like this im still building it.
Windows XP 64Bit (I hate vista)
Intel Core 2 Duo Processor E8500
600W-700W Power Supply (Gonna had some LED lights and shit)
nVidia 790i Ultra SLI Motherboard
PNY 9800GT graphics Card ( Ill try to get enough to 2 or 3 way SLI)
X-FI Ultra Gamer soundcard
4GB RAM
1TB HardDrive
And ill overclock it
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| Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 1:18 am Post subject: |
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| rave_nick wrote: | Alright im gonna make it so my rig will be like this im still building it.
Windows XP 64Bit (only because i get for free =p and i hate vista)
Intel Core 2 Duo Processor E8500
600W-700W Power Supply (Gonna had some LED lights and shit)
nVidia 790i Ultra SLI Motherboard
PNY 9800GT graphics Card ( Ill try to get enough to 2 or 3 way SLI)
X-FI Ultra Gamer soundcard
4GB RAM
1TB HardDrive
And ill overclock it |
Lets break it down.
Windows XP 64Bit (only because i get for free =p and i hate vista)
NO.
NO.
NO.
You'll have shitty driver support, shitty general program support, shitty general plugin support and a shitty OS. XP 64bit was a GIGANTIC FAILURE. USING IT IS RETARDED.
I know. I've tried. It made me want to stab my foot. If you're going to use X64, its going to be Vista, W7, a linux distro of choice or nothing.
Intel Core 2 Duo Processor E8500
For that I'd just buy a Q6600.
E8400 shaves 20$ off your price.
600W-700W Power Supply (Gonna had some LED lights and shit)
LEDs? For what? You'll soon be annoyed by those fucking LEDs and take them down. They are useless cosmetics. Also, meh.
X-FI Ultra Gamer soundcard
Useless trash unless you are an audiophile. Which you don't seem to be.
nVidia 790i Ultra SLI Motherboard
Getting it cheap. Fine.
PNY 9800GT graphics Card ( Ill try to get enough to 2 or 3 way SLI)
The gigantic fail that is the 9800GT. Worst piece of shit. Throw in about 50$ more on top of your 3way SLI and you can just get an awesome 4870X2.
4GB RAM
As long as you aren't blowing money on extravagant frequencies, fine. Also as long as its DDR2. You'll be blowing money using DDR3 on some C2D build.
1TB HardDrive
Make sure you really need 1TB, else downsize.
I still don't know what you are blowing 1.4K$ on. I have a build setup for 1.2K$ and it still seems superior. Unless you have to waste some money on a nice monitor, printer/scanner and other misc. devices, you are wasting money.
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| Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 1:25 am Post subject: |
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The ram is only 30$ for 2GB where im at.
Ill use 9800GT Until i have more cash (as long as it can play cod5 well im fine.)
I meant LED fans.
I already got most of the parts and ill buy the 2GB ram soon and long with the Power Supply
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| rave_nick wrote: | The ram is only 30$ for 2GB where im at.
Ill use 9800GT Until i have more cash (as long as it can play cod5 well im fine.)
I meant LED fans.
I already got most of the parts and ill buy the 2GB ram soon and long with the Power Supply |
Ram is only 17$ for 2GB where I'm at. :(
9800GT sucks. Same shit as the 8800GT. At least go for the GTX+, man.
I still don't know what you wasted so much money on.
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Could've had an i7.
i7 and v8 are similar in structure, sorry.
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| Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 1:38 am Post subject: Re: Almost done with my rig |
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| rave_nick wrote: | Alright this is my first rig i ever built im only 15 and just getting into computers.
WINDOWS XP Professional 64Bit
--64 bit XP isn't really worth it. If you're going to want to use a 64-bit OS, use Vista. It's not nearly as bad as most people think.
Intel Dual Core processor 3.16 GHz
--E8500? For the price you'd be better off with a q6600 overclocked to 3.6GHz with a good air cooler.
X-FI Xtreme Gamer Soundcard
--Getting a soundcard is useless unless you're really into music. For almost everyone on-board sound is more than enough.
PNY 9800GT Graphics Card
--Ew, what? You're going on a $1400 budget and are only getting a 9800GT?? It would be entirely possible to fit a GTX 295 under this budget. At the bare minimum get a GTX280 or HD4870 x2.
nVidia 790i Ultra SLI Motherboard (got it for 50$ lol)
--nVidia chipsets usually suck. I suppose it won't matter much if you get an nVidia card, though.
1000W power Supply
--...why?
2GB DDR3 RAM
--Dual-channel DDR3 RAM is almost completely useless unless you're running in in tri-channel mode with a Nehalem CPU
1TB HardDrive
--k.
Rate it and tell me what I should upgrade; I was on a 1400$ Budget |
This whole build needs scrapped and completely re-done. I suggest:
ASUS P5Q Deluxe ($195) or GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3R ($120)
Q6600 ($190) or E8400($165).
nVidia 295 ($500) or HD4870 x2 ($450)
PCP&C 750W PSU($135) or Corsair 750W PSU($125)
2 x 2GB of good OCZ, G.Skill or Corsair RAM. This is very good for the price. ($20 after rebate)
Any 500GB/640GB/1TB WD HDD would be sufficient ($65/$75/$105 respectively)
If you plan on overclocking, get this with the retention bracket ($35 + $9). Very good CPU cooler for the price. Also, after a lot of research I've done in the past it seems that OCZ's thermal compound beats most other pastes by a very small margin.
Antec 900 ($109)
Windows Vista Ultimate 64-bit ($0)
Any generic disk drive ($20)
This totals out to about $1318 for all of the best components listed (before at least $150 in mail-in rebates) and is orders of magnitude better than the build you posted.
EDIT: Seeing as you've already bought most of the parts, the only advice I can give you is to consult a forum or something before you go buying parts.
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