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ChocolateChips
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Hi everyone, I was wondering if it's true that Python is easier to learn than C++. I'm also wondering if Python is a good programming language to use to create hacks, and how it compares to C++. If Python could be used for making hacks, or programs pretty good, I might want to learn it.
Just to let you guys know, I've never really programmed before so, this would be my first time learning. Thanks 
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im pretty sure im wrong, correct me if i am
asm aka assembly is used to make the hacks
but, certain languages are used to make trainers?
i know c++ is preferred for hacking BECAUSE it offers asm code within the source, i've never even gotten close to python, so i know nothing about it
take it from me, DO NOT learn programming JUST for hacking, you won't get far, most people learn to like do stuff with hacks, as a side, though, many have gotten far, just hacking, i just don' advise it
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python isn't really a good way to learn to program, because everything in it is just an object, there's nothing to teach you about data types. C/++ or even C# is OK to learn, but be wary, C# is terrible for hacking without help from windows api and/or pInvokeing from more code you write in C/++
I believe there is a way to use windows api in python but that's still a terrible way to hack
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| ElJEffro wrote: | python isn't really a good way to learn to program, because everything in it is just an object, there's nothing to teach you about data types. C/++ or even C# is OK to learn, but be wary, C# is terrible for hacking without help from windows api and/or pInvokeing from more code you write in C/++
I believe there is a way to use windows api in python but that's still a terrible way to hack |
c# is just fine in my opinion, i know c#, i haven't hacked with it yet, but i've seen hacking sources, yeah, so you have ti import dll functions >.>, c++ though is the most pushed language by cef, it has the most support on this forum, and is probably like the most well developed for hacking, but, it doesn't mean its the only, i am learning c++ now, and learned c# first, reason i learned c# first was because of how well its developing
its so young, but doing well, learning it now, would be agood idea, for when it gets even better, and im keeping it as a strong first, with c++ as a strong second
just my two cents
bottom line: for the most support, use c++, especially if you don't htink you'll be able to learn alone, other languages still get support, but not as much
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I know C# too, I fortunately am good enough to write all the real code in C then link it to a beautiful UI I dragndropped with C#
Bottom line: C# cannot use DLLMain, or pointers without changing compiler options and even then they aren't very useful.
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| Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 11:45 am Post subject: |
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| ElJEffro wrote: | I know C# too, I fortunately am good enough to write all the real code in C then link it to a beautiful UI I dragndropped with C#
Bottom line: C# cannot use DLLMain, or pointers without changing compiler options and even then they aren't very useful. |
Pointers aren't very useful?
Bitmap manipulation, plz.
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ChocolateChips
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alright so I guess I'll just try c++ thanks guys
Edit: Hmm, actually, now I'm not sure again >.>
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| Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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| asm dooesn't make hacks, winapi does.
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| samuri25404 wrote: | | ElJEffro wrote: | I know C# too, I fortunately am good enough to write all the real code in C then link it to a beautiful UI I dragndropped with C#
Bottom line: C# cannot use DLLMain, or pointers without changing compiler options and even then they aren't very useful. |
Pointers aren't very useful?
Bitmap manipulation, plz. |
Lol? When you initialize a IntPtr32 or something that is a pointer idiot. If you're talking about changing a game's pointer use WriteProcessMemory.
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| Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 8:23 pm Post subject: |
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| ElJEffro wrote: | I know C# too, I fortunately am good enough to write all the real code in C then link it to a beautiful UI I dragndropped with C#
Bottom line: C# cannot use DLLMain, or pointers without changing compiler options and even then they aren't very useful. |
I'm amazed by peoples ignorance towards C#,
It DOES have pointers, it CAN use DLLMain
Get your facts straight dumbshit.
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| Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 8:28 am Post subject: |
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| Python libraries have been made to use Winsock and WinAPI, so it is possible to hack with Python. Python would just be teaching you bad habits when it comes to programming other languages.
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While it might be possible, high level languages like python just aren't as suited for the task as languages like C (or even delphi).
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Python is definitely easier to learn. As far as "Hacking" goes, I also believe that python is better in this category. It's just more versatile, and is easily manipulated.
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