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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 12:14 am    Post subject: Cheat engine scan time Reply with quote

Hi guys... I'm sorry if I look like a noob here but I do know how to hack... anyway... I was wondering...

When I'm playing (trying to hack) AirRivals or Grand Chase and scan for something (float or 4 byte) my scans take 5-20mins... Is there anyway I can fix this... I've tried changing scan buffer (both up and down).
I have both fast scan and hyper scan enabled... I use the CE kernels (ME kernel for Grand Chase).

My CE settings:
General=Default
Scan setting= Fast scan, Hyper scan, Low memory usage, MEM private, MEM image, separate thread with higher priority (I have tried tinkering with this)
File association=Default
Plugins= Lol Default
Code finder= Debug registers (nothing else... AirRivals doesn't detect)
Assembler= Default (No prevent detection)
Extra= All kernels and stealth kernel

Any help appreciated... Maybe my computer sucks... I don't think so however as I can boost my speed (cpu+virtual memory)...

I will attempt to +rep you for any help(lol)

In other words PLEASE HELP Shocked Smile

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 12:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Will you perhaps try to disable to hyper scan or fast scan and see whether the speed if faster?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 12:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gytkps wrote:
Will you perhaps try to disable to hyper scan or fast scan and see whether the speed if faster?

will do... I'll post back results with the following: Hyper scan, Fast scan, Both

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Conja0 wrote:
gytkps wrote:
Will you perhaps try to disable to hyper scan or fast scan and see whether the speed if faster?

will do... I'll post back results with the following: Hyper scan, Fast scan, Both


OK, I'll be checking back! Wink

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 12:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gytkps wrote:
OK, I'll be checking back! Wink

Tehe... Thanks...
Anyways I started off disabling hyperscan... It looked promising to start with with a scan time of 30 seconds.... Sadly it gradually rose to about 6 mins

Next I disabled Fast scan... This was stupid.... Stuck at the very start even waited a while and still had a scan time of about 12 mins

Last I disabled both... Pretty much same effect as the first

So obviously hyperscan was doing me no good BUT I don't want to wait 6 mins for every scan.... I don't think it is to do with my config however as I set up CE on my cousins computer (he has dual core<<<Jealous) with the same settings as mine and it completes scans in 5-30 secs (SUPER JEALOUS)

Hope you can help ^.^

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 3:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

disable the kernelmode read/writeprocessmemory in settings->extra.

Also, try playing around with the scanbuffer. Default it's set at 512KB . But you can change this to more or less depending on how much cache your cpu has

Other things that can affect it are hard disk speed and memory speed

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 7:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Start by making your game run a low rez, cos all you want is the addresses once you have them, you can brighten this up again!

you could also try to narrow down your search by
a script

and setting the memory region manually
by searching for money or ammo is easyiest and using that memory region to help speed this up,.... also try using the script to customize your
search

But It can also be that, you have overclocked your ram, and its running to hot or your system is not perfectly compatible hardware setup

which is slowing down your ram, or make the cpu think twice
the dont scan memory this is protected with the NO cache option is useful, It used to crash with the option [disabled] when ever I wanted the run a find out what accesses this address...

I leave this option checked now!

I used to have this problem

I increased the scan buffer to 2048, and slowed things down

I brought an old P35 and now it runs perfectly FAST!

Have you overclocked the RAM?

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow thanks... May I ask how I can check if I have overclocked my ram... This may be my problem as when I play most games they end up using 100% CPU!!! Shocked ... I've been unsuccessful so far and starting to get tired... I waited the usual 6 mins last night for the scan to complete (pointer scanning). Guess what? New problem... (the old one still exists) I'm not getting any values when I scan my pointer value... Dammit... Help still appreciated on BOTH topics lol

So question atm: How do I check if I have overclocked my ram as my computer seems slower than when I got it... THANKS

Edit: Oh btw about the system running too hot... My fan is stupid and is constantly running very loud... I've searched for a fix but oh well... Is this a sign? I am quite computer savvy and am a Life-Hacker but that doesn't mean I know every term and fix in the book ^^

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 12:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try cleaning your cpu cooler. Could be it's getting too hopt and downthrottling.

Also, try pausing the game with ce when scanning or pointer scanning (advanced optionsm, pause button)

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 12:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dark Byte wrote:
Try cleaning your cpu cooler. Could be it's getting too hopt and downthrottling.

Also, try pausing the game with ce when scanning or pointer scanning (advanced optionsm, pause button)

Will that work? AirRivals is online (client) so wouldn't it make me disconnect?

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 3:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DID ANYONE FIND THIS USEFUL!
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So question atm: How do I check if I have overclocked my ram as my computer seems slower than when I got it... THANKS


To give your computer a boost, try installing another operating system
on another drive or partition@

cos your windows is probably searching for .dll .ocx files at startup
and slowing it down
and reading the ever expanding .ini files in %windir%\system32
and having alot of icons on desktop does not help either! cos of cache!
so having a partition only for game playing helps Alot!

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This may be my problem as when I play most games they end up using 100% CPU!!!


100|% cpu usage is normal when playing games!

if you have Value ram like I had then down clocking it is the way to go
What I would recommend is down clocking your ram by 33 Mhz increments and setting the Voltage to Ram Stock, see if that helps!

Find your Mobo, and what your stock FSB is
Find your Ram, and what your stock FSB is

example Mobo = Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3R Intel P35 Express Motherboard
FSB = operating on a 800/1066/1333 MHz FSB stock remember /4 for real
and up to 8GB of DDR2 1066/800/667 Mhz.

can reach 502mhz(real value) FSB with the right Ram, and Cooling...
your ram will be rated as one of the above,
PC2 = DRR2 and
6400 = 800 Mhz

MOBO = motherboards

Summery:

General Overclock:
FSB (FrontSide Bus): The data bus that carries information from the processor to the main memory and the rest of the system.

Like several of the key elements in a modern PC, the FSB is a little tricky, because its effective data rate differs from its base clock speed. For example, the Core 2 Duo E6750 is advertised as having a 1333MHz(not real) front-side bus value. That's the effective data rate, but the base clock is 333MHz(real) value. You've got to multiply by four to get the effective bus speed from the base FSB clock. Intel uses the term "quad-pumped" to describe the FSB's nature. Overclockers tend to refer to the base FSB clock rather than the effective speed, because the base clock frequency is usually the value shown in the system BIOS.

Increasing the clock speed of the FSB (and thus the speed of the memory and the processor as well) is the most common and effective way of overclocking a modern computer.

To tie this all together, say a motherboard has an Athlon XP 3000+ processor installed (stock speed 2.1GHz) which uses a FSB speed of 166MHz. A PC3200 DDR memory module (stock speed 200MHz) is installed. Since the processor requires a 166MHz FSB, the motherboard will set the memory speed to 166MHz which becomes its stock speed with the current configuration.

When a processor, memory or motherboard is made to run faster due to overclocking, more voltage may be required in order for that component to run stably. With this in mind, voltage adjustment is one of the most important principles of overclocking.
Core/Memory/Chipset Voltage: Increasing one or more of these voltage settings by a very small amount (0.05V to 0.1V) can often mean the difference between an unbootable system and a stable overclocked one. more voltage does not necessarily mean faster speeds, rather minor increases can help improve stability. Increasing the FSB or 'CPU host frequency' or (Motherboard Clock or FSB or a host of other terms for the same thing) will increase the FSB speed of the motherboard, overclocking the processor and memory at the same time. Increasing the voltage to the CPU core, memory or chipset will feed more power to those components to aid in stability while increasing heat.
It's also important to keep an eye on the amount of heat the processor is putting out because of the 'thermal throttling' ((or down throttling like Dark BYTE said)) safety systems built into both AMD Athlon 64 and Intel Pentium 4 processors. If either of these CPUs gets too hot, they will slow themselves down drastically in order to keep from burning out. Users will notice this in terms of massively reduced system and benchmark speed, which should clue them into the fact that additional cooling is needed if they wish to continue overclocking. Thermal throttling should never occur in the regular use of a processor, but overclocking is NOT regular use. all modern processors are happiest in the area between 35°C -65°C. If the processor is showing temperatures over 70°C in the BIOS, chances are that heat is going to be a limiting factor in the computer's stability and overclocking potential. Time to consider a new heatsink and/or better case ventilation.\

Overclocking a computer system also increases the amount of power it draws, and this may lead to system instability if its old 300Watt power supply is not up to the task. Spontaneous reboots while under load are usually a sign of insufficient power. When that happens, it's definitely time to pick up a new power supply.


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Just a Quick guide!
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Kinda off topic! But hay!

How to know if your Ram is overclocked is to look at the FSB Clock
with CPU-Z and compare it to your Motherboards Stock FSB


also the real value is /4 /=divided

The term overclocking is thrown around a lot, for better or worse. If you're one of the many who has never overclocked, this guide will explain what it is and how to do it to the computers' processor, motherboard and memory.

a little bit anyway! Cool

Can Overclocking Damage Computer Hardware?

Yes, but it's typically unlikely. Generally speaking, when computer hardware is pushed beyond its limits, it will lock up, crash or show other obvious errors long before it gets to the point where the processor or memory might be permanently damaged. The exception to this is if extreme voltages are used when attempting to overclock, but since most motherboards do not support extremely high voltages, and neither does this guide, it's not likely to be an issue.

For older processors, heat is also a factor worth keeping a close eye on. Modern processors have thermal sensors which will slow down or shut off the PC, but older CPUs do not necessarily feature these safety devices. The best know example of this is the AMD AthlonXP (socket A/462), which was famous for burning itself up in less than 5 seconds if the heatsink was not installed properly (or at all).

FSB (FrontSide Bus): The data bus that carries information from the processor to the main memory and the rest of the system. A processor's internal multiplier multiplied the FSB speed of the system = that processor's speed in MHz or GHz.

Increasing the clock speed of the FSB (and thus the speed of the memory and the processor as well) is the most common and effective way of overclocking a modern computer.

Internal Multiplier: The ratio of a given processor's speed (in MHz or GHz) as compared to the FSB (Frontside Bus) speed of the computer system it is installed in. A processor with an internal multiplier of 16x installed in a system with a FSB of 200MHz would run at 3.2GHz internally, since 16 x 200MHz = 3.2GHz. Most modern processors are 'multiplier locked' to some degree, meaning that their internal multiplier cannot be changed (or at least increased). This in turn means that increasing the FSB speed of a system is the only way to overclock the processor.

Memory Divider: Most modern Intel Pentium 4 and AMD Athlon motherboards allow a memory divider to be set. This divider allows the system memory to run slower than the actual FSB speed. By default, FSB speed and memory are usually set to a 1:1 ratio, meaning that increasing FSB speed (by overclocking) increases memory speed by the same amount. Most 'generic' system memory is not built for overclocking and thus may not be able to take the level of overclocking that the processor or motherboard can achieve.

The memory divider allows users to mitigate this problem by reducing the speed increase of the memory relative to that of the FSB and the processor. Setting a 5:4 memory divider would mean that memory speed increases at 4/5th the rate of the FSB, for example.

Reducing the relative speed of the memory does result in a slight decrease in performance as compared to the default 1:1 ratio between FSB and memory speed, but it may help users with generic memory achieve a higher overclock.

The Processor (CPU): As readers might know, two important variables govern how fast a modern processor goes. Its internal multiplier and the FSB (Front Side Bus) setting of the motherboard and memory. The FSB is the effective speed of data transfer between the processor and the main memory (it's also the base speed that the system's memory runs at), while the multiplier is an internal indicator of the speed of the processor.

A processor's speed equals its multiplier (x) the FSB in MHz. Therefore, an Intel processor with a multiplier of 16 working with a FSB speed of 200MHz would run at 3.2GHz. There are two ways a processor can be made to run faster; increasing the multiplier, or increasing FSB speed.

Many modern processors have 'multiplier locks' which prevent users from changing the internal multiplier settings partially or completely, so increasing FSB speed tends to be the most common and effective method of overclocking.

Hardware considerations for overclocking: Heat and cooling

The faster a computer goes, the more heat it produces. This is especially true when the voltage being fed to certain components is increased, a standard overclocking method. Excess heat in the processor, motherboard chipset or memory can cause crashes and system instability, and may be one of the limiting factors in determining the maximum overclock for a system.

The stock heatsinks included with most processors are perfectly adequate for cooling them at their stock speeds, but may not handle the additional heat generated by overclocking very well, especially if the computer chassis is not suitably ventilated.

To monitor the processor's temperature, look for the 'system health settings'

If the processor is showing temperatures over 70°C in the BIOS, chances are that heat is going to be a limiting factor in the computer's stability and overclocking potential. Time to consider a new heatsink and/or better case ventilation.

Power Supply Requirements

Overclocking a computer system also increases the amount of power it draws, and this may lead to system instability if its old 300Watt power supply is not up to the task. If overclocking a modern Pentium 4 or Athlon 64 system, plan on upgrading the power supply to at least 400Watts.

Spontaneous reboots while under load are usually a sign of insufficient power. When that happens, it's definitely time to pick up a new power supply.

Reboot the computer and go to the BIOS screen by pressing the DEL key repeatedly during startup.

Note that some motherboards respond to different key commands to bring up the BIOS.

The first features to look for are CPU and FSB speed adjustment controls. Generally, these will be in a section of the BIOS called 'frequency/voltage control'.

Increasing the FSB or 'CPU host frequency' or (Motherboard Clock or FSB or a host of other terms for the same thing) will increase the FSB speed of the motherboard, overclocking the processor and memory at the same time.

Increasing the voltage to the CPU core, memory or chipset will feed more power to those components to aid in stability while increasing heat.

Memory Performance (latency vs. speed)
Memory latency settings can generally be found in the 'advanced chipset features' section of the BIOS.

Memory latency is another important consideration when overclocking a computer system. The latency settings of the memory determine how long it waits for certain states to clear before performing new read or write actions. The lower the latency, the faster the memory will perform. Lower latency settings put more stress on the memory and increase the chance of error though, so many lower-end memory modules cannot handle fast latency settings, especially when overclocked. Raising the memory's latency settings may enable a higher overclock to be achieved at the cost of some performance.


Mem:

1st 2 = CAS Latency Time
2nd 2 = DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay
3rd 2 = DRAM RAS# Precharge
4th 5 = Act to Precharge Delay
Latency 2-2-2-5 Timings

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