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PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 5:21 pm    Post subject: C++ Starting Reply with quote

Hey, I'm interested in programming in C++ and I'm wondering if this is download is actually c++ or something else. Here's the link, http://www.microsoft.com/express/vc/. I'm guessing it's real because it's from the microsoft website. Also, my other question is, is C++ a good language? Or should I try Java, C, C#? Thanks, +karma for helpful posts.

EDIT: Sorry to sound like a moron in this post but is the download only supposed to be 2.8mb? Because Delphi was around 400MB.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Download Visual C++ Enterprise Edition.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can you link me? I'll try looking for it as well, also is it free?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 5:37 pm    Post subject: Re: C++ Starting Reply with quote

dEEznutz wrote:

EDIT: Sorry to sound like a moron in this post but is the download only supposed to be 2.8mb? Because Delphi was around 400MB.


This us just a downloader downloader.

It downloads the files when it is installing VC++
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh all right, thanks. Do you know any beginner tutorials?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

C++ is a great language, as it is a superset of the original C language, it added more features, functionality, etc. to the language. I would highly suggest it for any purpose.

Java, C#, and other languages like these are mostly used in more of a mainstream environment for companies that look for fast application development. I would not suggest either of them for game hacking though.

Visual Studio 2008 is a great IDE and compiler for the language, and as stated above, the link you provided is for the express edition. While it is not fully featured, it is very useful. It is unlimited, never runs out, you never have to pay for it. There are draw backs to it being free, but for a learning environment it is great.

As for a link to the enterprise version, that would be warez, which is strictly against the rules.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, pretty much answered my question. Time to begin hell... Surprised


EDIT: One more question, sorry :/. How do you run a program? I was just reading .murders. tut and was following the first party correctly but he never included anywhere how to see the result Sad. I tried pressing F5 or debugging but I think that's not the right thing..

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dEEznutz wrote:
Thanks, pretty much answered my question. Time to begin hell... Surprised


EDIT: One more question, sorry :/. How do you run a program? I was just reading .murders. tut and was following the first party correctly but he never included anywhere how to see the result Sad. I tried pressing F5 or debugging but I think that's not the right thing..


Donnt use .murder's tut

http://www.cplusplus.com/doc/tutorial/

Go through the tutorial.
F5 should display the results. Also pressing the button that look like a"play" button. Also Debug > Start Debugging.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kitterz wrote:
dEEznutz wrote:
Thanks, pretty much answered my question. Time to begin hell... Surprised


EDIT: One more question, sorry :/. How do you run a program? I was just reading .murders. tut and was following the first party correctly but he never included anywhere how to see the result Sad. I tried pressing F5 or debugging but I think that's not the right thing..


Donnt use .murder's tut

http://www.cplusplus.com/doc/tutorial/

Go through the tutorial.
F5 should display the results. Also pressing the button that look like a"play" button. Also Debug > Start Debugging.

All right thanks for that info. Now I'm having a little error programming :/. Just a simple little "Hello World." Here's the source.

Code:
#include <iostream>

#include "stdafx.h

using namespace std;

int main()

{
   cout<<"Hello World";
   return 0;
}


o_0 When I try to run it it says "error C2871: 'std' : a namespace with this name does not exist, error C2065: 'cout' : undeclared identifier."

edit: this is all in win32 project.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 12:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Code:
#include <iostream>

int main()
{
    std::cout << "Hello, world!\n";
}


Your #include "stdafx.h" is missing the closing "
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 2:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

if you're new to programming and don't know too much about data types/variables and how programs work, i'd suggest starting with vb.net. it's basically english and once you've grown experienced with how programming works, i'd then move onto C++. but that's just my opinion, i know that it helped me out a lot.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 2:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fullyawesome wrote:
if you're new to programming and don't know too much about data types/variables and how programs work, i'd suggest starting with vb.net. it's basically english and once you've grown experienced with how programming works, i'd then move onto C++. but that's just my opinion, i know that it helped me out a lot.


God no, this is exactly what you DO NOT want to do.

All .NET is going to do is hide how programs work, not teach it.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 3:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fullyawesome wrote:
if you're new to programming and don't know too much about data types/variables and how programs work, i'd suggest starting with vb.net. it's basically english and once you've grown experienced with how programming works, i'd then move onto C++. but that's just my opinion, i know that it helped me out a lot.


Go away and stop trying to teach people bad things Sad.

Code:
#include <iostream>

int main( void )
{
       std::cout << "Hello World" << endl;
       return 0;
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 3:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

noz3001 wrote:
Go away and stop trying to teach people bad things :(.

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int main( void )
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       std::cout << "Hello World" << endl;
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}
Sorry to say that your code doesn't even compile :P
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 6:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why does everyone use std::*? Why don't they just use printf()?
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