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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 8:28 pm    Post subject: help with pointers Reply with quote

I need help with more advanced pointers.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 3:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try step 8 of the Cheat Engine 5.3 Tutorial. After you managed to complete that step and you still dont know what to-do or what you did Rolling Eyes , i will hear from you
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 5:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah, but if you need help, it would be handy if you actually posted your situation... Makes it easier for us to help. It's not really clear to state you need help with advanced pointers.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay. well i did do step 8 but i guess thats "less advanced" pointers. I need one that would work with halo ammo. I've already got unlimited ammo but it changes when you die so i heard about pointers and said i'd give it a shot. I did all the steps to making a pointer but when i search the hex i get nothing. So now what could i do?

this is off subject but... btw keyboard piano i download the paino and i cant extract the files Shocked

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

is the hack your trying to make for single player or multiplayer??
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mulitplayer. i will make one for single later
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

and you can get unlimited ammo for multiplayer thats weird because the ammo is usually server side.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah well. you probly search the higher stuff... like double and floats. but i was suprised to find it both at 4 and 2 bytes XD
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are getting infinite ammo just on the client side, try to abuse it (eg shoot for a few seconds on the pistol till you are sure you've run out of ammo) then try shooting somone to see if the server is still spawning rounds. My guess is you tricked your client into giving you infinite rounds, but not the server. Or M$ just decided to screw it with the PC version to force ppl to get an XBox (i wouldnt put it past them).
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

okay but. thisi s what happens when i get unlimited ammo: After one shot the shot reloads. BUT when the clip runs out people dont see me shoot but i can still kill them with my unlimited ammo. but when you die the adress changes. Pory said the pointers are way advanced.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bluehairman wrote:
okay but. thisi s what happens when i get unlimited ammo: After one shot the shot reloads. BUT when the clip runs out people dont see me shoot but i can still kill them with my unlimited ammo. but when you die the adress changes. Pory said the pointers are way advanced.


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The value you'll have to scan for should be 1824418C in hexadeciml. Did tick the box "Hex" when scanning for the pointer's adress?


If you did, and you still can't find it that means the game builds up the pointer. You'll have to browse in the disasembler to find out how ecx got to be what it got to be. So, you scroll up from the command nd write down every command writing to ecx.


According to Glest you'll have to do what I underlined in his quote, which I still have no idea how to do.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well, It's not the easiest way and it moght not work all the time. There could be a function that builds up the register (lets call it ecx for now). In that case, when you scroll up in the dissasembler you'll only find a call.

But if not, you should find a lot of commands that change ecx. Write them all down until there is a static adress being placed in eax (like "mov ecx,123456" or "mov ecx,[123456]").

Or there is a register being placed in ecx ("mov ecx,eax" or "mov ecx,[eax]"). Then you'll have to follow that register until you found it's origin.

If you've written them down, try to manualy construct the pointer ou of it. You might encounter several levels of pointers (pointer to a pointer to a pointer etc)


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Or, you find out what writes to the adress (once you found it) and you nop it (replace with bytes that do nothing). I always prefer nopping over freezing.



I just downloaded the zip from my site, it extracted withouth any problems... Using WinZip or WinRar...

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i dont really follow that... but heres what i did and i was very close to being successful. I got the ammo adress right click and clicked "search for pointer" choose level 3 and the scan options for fast slow ect. and i got 3 pointers. which seemed to work witht he trainer i made and all but i died and everything worked fine (i think :\ i made a mistake and didnt shoot all the clips) and when the trainer works i have 1 shot. then i restarded that game and that didnt work.

Also i would like to know if theres a way i can change the new gun ammo to something

eg. the gun ammo i have is 40089F80 but when i die it changes to something random (but all ammo i've tested so far started with 400) lets say it changed to 400867c3. is there a way i can make it so the new ammo adress 40086c3 to change to 40089F80 again?


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oh... i downloaded it and it was almost done extracting when it said "Error reading file"... winzip. i cant with winrar...

Edit: Keyboard now works i redownloaded Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 12:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

maybe, but it's not safe... You could just write into the adress of the pointer, but that doesn't mean the game will actually read from there... Anyway, if you found a lvl 3 pointer, but it doesn't work, maybe you need to scan for a lvl 4... And there is also a scan for base pointer option for a pointer...
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

alright. thanks. i think you pretty much helped me as much as you could. thanks alot Very Happy. i'll try level 4 and base later. right now im working on something. thanks again Very Happy
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