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C++
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Java
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theprojekt
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 2:44 pm    Post subject: Java? Reply with quote

I was considering getting into Java programming...but I wanted to know if it helped out at all with hacking, or if it's just something to help perform tasks on a computer. I don't know that much about java, but I wanted to know if I should go with C++ or Java(Not considering hacking)

Like which language is more useful and such
Tell me which one you would pick and why Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wrong section first off..
And it depends what you want to get into.
Java is more useful for apps that can be used in a browser, like on websites.
C++ is geared more towards building advanced programs.
I'd say Java has a wider range of use and is easier for beginners.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right, sorry. I didn't know exactly which one to post it in.
So Java would be easier for beginners, but in the long run, whould Java or C++ be better?
I mean I guess I could start off with Java and get into C++ later on?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah pretty much, all languages are similar is some way so learning one makes the next easier.
C++ is only useful if you specifically want to make something like photoshop, or a game.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

x0r wrote:
Don't use Java, unless you plan to be doing something completely unrelated to hacking.

Java only offers interpolation, nothing else.

. . .
You sir, fail at knowing things.
FYI almost everything runs off Java.
Your car, your stereo systems, most new TVs.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

x0r wrote:
Cryoma wrote:
x0r wrote:
Don't use Java, unless you plan to be doing something completely unrelated to hacking.

Java only offers interpolation, nothing else.

. . .
You sir, fail at knowing things.
FYI almost everything runs off Java.
Your car, your stereo systems, most new TVs.

You child, fail at knowing things.
FYI, I was saying just that.
Java is complaint with many different processors/OS types due to Sun's work on porting the VM to other architectures/OS.

Idiot.

You said that's all it's useful for, as if it was almost nothing...
So learn grammars or tits or GTFO.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't wanna start an arguement here. I guess I'll start with Java and work my way into C++
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

x0r lied to me. Crying or Very sad


And I would advise going with VB.NET first! (serious jk there)



Start with learning the basics of C/C++ by reading through a programming book.

After that, just experiment with open source things, and you'll eventually get the hang of it.

(I've read 2 ebooks and 1 real book on C/C++ so far, I still am having plenty of trouble with the syntax, as Noz knows; C++ is not easy to learn as a first language.)

Also, x0r, the thing you lied about was your age.

Also2, x0r, you said you highly suggest not doing Java unless he wanted it to work for multiple operating systems, but doesn't C++ source compile extremely easy with little modification for a different OS?

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, ok. I'm doing Java programing at school right now, since we have to learn it, just a small hello world program and stuff.

I guess I'll start with C++ and stuff now.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well since you have a class on it, I'd probably do Java, and after that class work on C++, so you don't overwork yourself.

I did that once reading a C++ book; I read about 3/4ths of it in one day, and forgot it all the next. Crying or Very sad


Also, with the Java programming, hopefully C++ will come to you more naturally since you've already learned a language.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Madman wrote:
x0r lied to me. Crying or Very sad


And I would advise going with VB.NET first! (serious jk there)



Start with learning the basics of C/C++ by reading through a programming book.

After that, just experiment with open source things, and you'll eventually get the hang of it.

(I've read 2 ebooks and 1 real book on C/C++ so far, I still am having plenty of trouble with the syntax, as Noz knows; C++ is not easy to learn as a first language.)

Also, x0r, the thing you lied about was your age.

Also2, x0r, you said you highly suggest not doing Java unless he wanted it to work for multiple operating systems, but doesn't C++ source compile extremely easy with little modification for a different OS?


It doesn't compile very easily on other non-windows OS because how are you gonna use the win32 API on a linux(not wine of course) or on a mac(which are for homosexuals anyways)

Unless you don't use OS specific API it's tough to port over. Or just long and tedious.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I recall reading that it was extremely easy compared to other languages...
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 1:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Madman wrote:
x0r lied to me. Crying or Very sad


And I would advise going with VB.NET first! (serious jk there)



Start with learning the basics of C/C++ by reading through a programming book.

After that, just experiment with open source things, and you'll eventually get the hang of it.

(I've read 2 ebooks and 1 real book on C/C++ so far, I still am having plenty of trouble with the syntax, as Noz knows; C++ is not easy to learn as a first language.)

Also, x0r, the thing you lied about was your age.

Also2, x0r, you said you highly suggest not doing Java unless he wanted it to work for multiple operating systems, but doesn't C++ source compile extremely easy with little modification for a different OS?

not sure about other OS but they have made modifications so that it works on symbians (mobilephones)

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 5:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

=O

That means you could make a little game for the iPhone with C++, awesome!

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 7:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Madman wrote:
=O

That means you could make a little game for the iPhone with C++, awesome!

yep you could

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