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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 6:49 pm    Post subject: General CE Questions Reply with quote

Hi, I'm new to the Cheat Engine community and would like to get involved. However, I have a few general questions about CE:

1. What language is CE written in?
2. Where can I get the source code? I couldn't find it in the Source Code forum.
3. Where can I learn all (or most) of the functionalities of CE?


As you might imagine, its pretty hard to try to contribute when you don't know the answers to these questions Razz
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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im not sure bout source codes, and go to dragon fable . com(remove spaces)Now, download cheat engine 5.3, go to flash section, and go to The sub section called dragonfable. you should find some good learning stuff around there.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

robot434 wrote:
1. English

im not sure bout source codes, and go to dragon fable . com(remove spaces)Now, download cheat engine 5.3, go to flash section, and go to The sub section called dragonfable. you should find some good learning stuff around there.


Pretty sure he meant programming language.

Anyways, it's mainly programmed in Delphi, but the kernal module is coded in C.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 8:49 pm    Post subject: Re: General CE Questions Reply with quote

absoluteZer0 wrote:
Hi, I'm new to the Cheat Engine community and would like to get involved. However, I have a few general questions about CE:

1. What language is CE written in?
2. Where can I get the source code? I couldn't find it in the Source Code forum.
3. Where can I learn all (or most) of the functionalities of CE?


As you might imagine, its pretty hard to try to contribute when you don't know the answers to these questions Razz
Thanks!


1. Everything but the driver is in Delphi, the driver is in C.
2. http://forum.cheatengine.org/viewtopic.php?t=62&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
3. There isn't really documentation on all of the functionalities. You could do the tutorial that came with it and maybe mess around on a few windows games till you understand what everything does.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 12:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

2: Or if you're lazy and only want a cvsw source thats up to date once an hour: http://forum.cheatengine.org/viewtopic.php?t=15948
3: Read the helpfile

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 2:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

1) Delphi 69.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm... Don't you have to pay for Delphi? I'm thinking of trying to write a C++ version of CE as C++ is a much more popular programming language. However, without any detailed documentation, it could be very difficult. I don't know any Delphi so I can't look in the source to find out what it does.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

absoluteZer0 wrote:
Hmm... Don't you have to pay for Delphi?


There are "free" versions of Delphi out there, there used to be a link to one in the sources section somewhere, I don't know if it still is there.

absoluteZer0 wrote:
I'm thinking of trying to write a C++ version of CE as C++ is a much more popular programming language. However, without any detailed documentation, it could be very difficult. I don't know any Delphi so I can't look in the source to find out what it does.


Be prepared to waste a lot of time doing that, it will take you quite a while. The CE source isn't exactly small.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Be prepared to waste a lot of time doing that, it will take you quite a while. The CE source isn't exactly small.


Yeah, I just downloaded the source and wow... I congratulate everyone who worked on it all these (years?)

Oh, and what do you mean by "driver"? CE isn't exactly hardware, so can you clarify?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

absoluteZer0 wrote:
Yeah, I just downloaded the source and wow... I congratulate everyone who worked on it all these (years?)

Oh, and what do you mean by "driver"? CE isn't exactly hardware, so can you clarify?


CE implements some of its own kernel mode functions (like NtOpenProcess). The driver source is in DBKKernel.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah, thanks for clarifying
Yay, C/C++ code! This makes my life somewhat easier...
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