Cheat Engine

Tradgedy · Newbie cheater Reputation: 0 Joined: 21 Jul 2007 Posts: 12

Ive been looking at this for a while and i cant find the patten. i have all these numbers that go up and down when my life does but i cant figure what they are exactly. As shown below the first colum is life at 5000 second is life at 6000. there are 7 addresses

When My Health is
5000 ------------------- 6000

These are the values
1288044288 ---------- 1974551808
4177601792 ---------- 359027200
1022951717 ---------- 1024812626
1061996031 ---------- 1064679714
88034501 ------------- 88044985
1061996031 ---------- 1064679714
4148421 -------------- 4158905

The last one when frozen keeps my health maxed i just was wondering is anyone could figure out the Pattern

hcavolsdsadgadsg · Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 6:20 pm Post subject:

So if the last one works, what's the problem?

Tradgedy · Newbie cheater Reputation: 0 Joined: 21 Jul 2007 Posts: 12

I said the last one keeps my health maxed i didn't say it is the answer to that the pattern is or what to divide by/ subtract/ add (Or whatever)
I would like to know why thes values equal 5000 or 6000

hcavolsdsadgadsg · Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 7:29 pm Post subject:

I still fail to see why it matters.

Tradgedy · Newbie cheater Reputation: 0 Joined: 21 Jul 2007 Posts: 12

Hey if you don't want to help you don't need to post.
If i know the formula for how 4148421 or 1061996031 = 5000 it might help me find other values in the same program. How hard is that to understand.

tj102985 · Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 9:32 pm Post subject:

u could have asked that in the first post...

Tradgedy · Newbie cheater Reputation: 0 Joined: 21 Jul 2007 Posts: 12

Is there a reson that neither of you have helped me in the least yet you have posted. Do you post just to post or to get a higher post score???
Please there is no reson to post unless you atleast offer even a little bit of information that might help. I would like to know if anyone can figre out the formula or patter that was used in these numbers. All the needed info should be here i just know there are some people that are good at pattern recognition. Any "Help" would be great.
So to once reiterate what i have asked, I would like to know how 1061996031 and 4148421 and the others = 5000 while 1064679714 and 4158905 and others = 6000. Thank you

Monkeys · Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 4:49 am Post subject:

Tradgedy, it could easely be 'random' numbers that you see. If the programmers of that game are smart enough they might have put in a sort of randomiser. (It's not really a randomiser to them, but it seems so to us: they make the client use different forumula's each min./hour/etc.)
That's the problem here I think, I could be wrong though.

And even if you find the pattern, those who made THAT pattern are smart enough to not apply it to each vallue.

Labyrnth · Moderator Reputation: 10 Joined: 28 Nov 2006 Posts: 6301

It could be any number of things, We cant see your pc. Also you have not said what game this is you are working on as well.
Everyone excluding "Monkeys" in this thread including th post creator needs to look at the guidelines for posting for help.
Im not going to be nice anylonger on this it is taking up allot of my time having to come back and work over all the new threads here.
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If the last one works for what you are working on, then why are you even worried about the others. They could be part of th health and could not be depending on how you scanned for HP.
If you did unknown scans for HP then decreased until you can up with just those in the list then chances are the others have nothing to do with the real HP. You have found values to something else or something related to HP bar or a timer or even coords or something ingame, Point is none of them are needed if your last works.

If you still really want to know what each one does in game, try nopping each one, and looking in game if something is altered or stopped working.
Then you will know what it is effecting, even if it is a crash. You will then know you dont need to bother with it.

Tradgedy · Newbie cheater Reputation: 0 Joined: 21 Jul 2007 Posts: 12

Ok im sorry i didnt post the game because i didnt want some one to post heres a hack for you or download this trainer or anything like that. I enjoy doing things myself now somtimes i get stuck here and there and need a little help or a fresh look on things but i dont want the whole thing done fo me. I was just trying to avoid those anying posts. The game is warhammer 40000 dark crusade. Its not a game that i realy need hacks for i'm just useing it to practice on. So sorry about not posting the Game.

Labyrnth · Moderator Reputation: 10 Joined: 28 Nov 2006 Posts: 6301

You dont have to get the downloads if they are linked, You can continue making yours.

So if the last one in your list is the address that works. Make your cheat

Tradgedy · Newbie cheater Reputation: 0 Joined: 21 Jul 2007 Posts: 12

if theres an address that is puting out 100 numbers. you sit and watch and figure out that every 10 numbers it mutiplys by a number you now know how to find the value after 10 numbers. great but if you can find out what that number is or what the other numbers are you can find every value for the whole 100 numbers. that is just a quick example. I know there is a value for the health i want to find the formula used to get that value why cant you guys understand that. If i find the formula then i can you it to find almost every other value im looking for in the game( or atles a few of them) Either way im trying to find the formula not the cheat it not that hard of a concept to grasp.

Labyrnth · Moderator Reputation: 10 Joined: 28 Nov 2006 Posts: 6301

The formula your trying to come up with is in the assembly on how it handles HP.
Your making it harder then it really is by worrying about address's that dont matter at all if you have the one that alters your Health.

Or you dont know how to explain what you are really needing to know about what your getting.

Monkeys · Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 4:44 am Post subject:

Well I think the meaning of finding the pattern in those (useless) adresses is so he can find OTHER values aswell (like STR, Sta or whatever they use in WH 3000) using that same pattern. I could be wrong though

Madman · Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 4:47 am Post subject:

errm... many of those addresses have no 'pattern'

have you noticed how sometimes addresses change to completely irrelevent things such as 193839013

but if there is a chance they have a pattern, try converting to hex or dividing them by 5000 or 6000 then multiplying the other one by 5000 or 6000