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PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2016 1:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

also, there areso many reasons for replacing or letting go of someone.. its not as simple as learn to adept, sorry to burst your bubble.

the reasons go on and on. you should know this.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2016 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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you are pretty naive to not know the pecking order. Its interns,contractors, older workers, under performers, new hires, then everyone else. It isn't cheap to let go of new hires because of signing bonuses and the amount of time spent training them. Usually its the older folks near retirement who are more expensive to maintain that are let go.

Welp, you finally got back to personal attacks. I'm still impressed I've actually learned something helpful for my career on this forum, that I never learned continuously reading on other career forums, all from someone who dislikes me. So yeah, there is a great percentage chance of me getting shafted this year if a recession comes. Hopefully, the hiring effects will be delayed until after December 2016. I guess there's really no good reason to continue this discussion, so thanks for the info even with your personal attacks.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2016 8:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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AverageAzn247 wrote:
you are pretty naive to not know the pecking order. Its interns,contractors, older workers, under performers, new hires, then everyone else. It isn't cheap to let go of new hires because of signing bonuses and the amount of time spent training them. Usually its the older folks near retirement who are more expensive to maintain that are let go.

Welp, you finally got back to personal attacks. I'm still impressed I've actually learned something helpful for my career on this forum, that I never learned continuously reading on other career forums, all from someone who dislikes me. So yeah, there is a great percentage chance of me getting shafted this year if a recession comes. Hopefully, the hiring effects will be delayed until after December 2016. I guess there's really no good reason to continue this discussion, so thanks for the info even with your personal attacks.


You are being way too sensitive.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2016 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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why'd you pick such a cutthroat career choice if you weren't confident in it

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2016 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HackOtaku wrote:
Waxxup wrote:
AverageAzn247 wrote:
you are pretty naive to not know the pecking order. Its interns,contractors, older workers, under performers, new hires, then everyone else. It isn't cheap to let go of new hires because of signing bonuses and the amount of time spent training them. Usually its the older folks near retirement who are more expensive to maintain that are let go.

Welp, you finally got back to personal attacks. I'm still impressed I've actually learned something helpful for my career on this forum, that I never learned continuously reading on other career forums, all from someone who dislikes me. So yeah, there is a great percentage chance of me getting shafted this year if a recession comes. Hopefully, the hiring effects will be delayed until after December 2016. I guess there's really no good reason to continue this discussion, so thanks for the info even with your personal attacks.


You are being way too sensitive.
Did pop his safe spot?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2016 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

r u guys cut out for silicon valley?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2016 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheIndianGuy wrote:
also, there areso many reasons for replacing or letting go of someone.. its not as simple as learn to adept, sorry to burst your bubble.

the reasons go on and on. you should know this.


The only reason a company let's you go is if you become a liability instead of an asset. If you devote your energy in becoming an asset and making money for the company you work for. You will not get fired. It makes no sense to fire you. And the only way you can become an asset to your company is if you 1. Love what you do 2. Love the company you work for 3. Be really good at what you do (circulates back to #1)

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2016 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Antagonist wrote:
TheIndianGuy wrote:
also, there areso many reasons for replacing or letting go of someone.. its not as simple as learn to adept, sorry to burst your bubble.

the reasons go on and on. you should know this.


The only reason a company let's you go is if you become a liability instead of an asset. If you devote your energy in becoming an asset and making money for the company you work for. You will not get fired. It makes no sense to fire you. And the only way you can become an asset to your company is if you 1. Love what you do 2. Love the company you work for 3. Be really good at what you do (circulates back to #1)


That sounds nice and all, but people who love their jobs and work hard get fired all the time.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2016 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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r u guys cut out for silicon valley?
too exp. coworker lived in cali and then moved back here in austin caz he didn't like paying 2k a month for a shitty studio
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2016 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ControlAltDelete wrote:
ControlAltDelete wrote:
why'd you pick such a cutthroat career choice if you weren't confident in it

Say whatever you guys want about my sensitivity, I don't care. It's certainly less cutthroat than finance in Wall Street, and well I want the best risk-adjusted return for my life, so here I am. I suppose I lack confidence due to failing technical interviews with top quantitative hedge funds and proprietary trading firms (Even if they're higher tier than Google and Microsoft) and the fact that many people are leagues smarter than me in my university (Which is top 5 in all computer studies). In the grand scheme of things, I should say I'm doing really well compared to the rest of the world.

Also, well said AverageAzn. I also have good reasons to avoid Silicon Valley even if it means gimping my career potential according to various people I've met.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2016 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Antagonist wrote:
TheIndianGuy wrote:
also, there areso many reasons for replacing or letting go of someone.. its not as simple as learn to adept, sorry to burst your bubble.

the reasons go on and on. you should know this.


The only reason a company let's you go is if you become a liability instead of an asset. If you devote your energy in becoming an asset and making money for the company you work for. You will not get fired. It makes no sense to fire you. And the only way you can become an asset to your company is if you 1. Love what you do 2. Love the company you work for 3. Be really good at what you do (circulates back to #1)


i honestly believe you arent this stupid and are being stubborn to not admit to being uneducated or unexperienced on this matter.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2016 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ControlAltDelete wrote:
Antagonist wrote:
TheIndianGuy wrote:
also, there areso many reasons for replacing or letting go of someone.. its not as simple as learn to adept, sorry to burst your bubble.

the reasons go on and on. you should know this.


The only reason a company let's you go is if you become a liability instead of an asset. If you devote your energy in becoming an asset and making money for the company you work for. You will not get fired. It makes no sense to fire you. And the only way you can become an asset to your company is if you 1. Love what you do 2. Love the company you work for 3. Be really good at what you do (circulates back to #1)


That sounds nice and all, but people who love their jobs and work hard get fired all the time.


I think I forgot to mention that you gotta make the company money. If you don't make the company money and it cost them to keep you. They're gonna fire you.


Edit: bc some people here don't have critical thinking as their attribute let me explain

The only way you get to be good at what you do (meaning you're the best at your job) is to love what you do. If you hate what you do. You won't put in the extra work to keep learning and be creative. Being the best at what you do means you can use that skill to make money. Either for yourself or for the company. If you love the company you work for. You'll be imaginative and work longer hours and find creative ways to increase revenue for your company. Doing this will make the company money and make you an invaluable employee. If you are an invaluable employee they won't fire you because as a business owner that would be fucking stupid. They will only fire those who are not valuable to them. Hence a liability. Indianguy. Please don't insult me because the highest you've worked at is a sushi cook. So idk why you're saying I'm uneducated in this matter.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2016 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You wanna know what's really bullshit

Being kicked out of your school despite having no disciplinary violations, perfect attendance/grades, all because the health insurance provider wants to kick you off the program because the treatment for your illness is costing too much

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2016 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You wanna know what's really bullshit

Being kicked out of your school despite having no disciplinary violations, perfect attendance/grades, all because the health insurance provider wants to kick you off the program because the treatment for your illness is costing too much


rip u

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2016 12:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Antagonist wrote:
ControlAltDelete wrote:
Antagonist wrote:
TheIndianGuy wrote:
also, there areso many reasons for replacing or letting go of someone.. its not as simple as learn to adept, sorry to burst your bubble.

the reasons go on and on. you should know this.


The only reason a company let's you go is if you become a liability instead of an asset. If you devote your energy in becoming an asset and making money for the company you work for. You will not get fired. It makes no sense to fire you. And the only way you can become an asset to your company is if you 1. Love what you do 2. Love the company you work for 3. Be really good at what you do (circulates back to #1)


That sounds nice and all, but people who love their jobs and work hard get fired all the time.


I think I forgot to mention that you gotta make the company money. If you don't make the company money and it cost them to keep you. They're gonna fire you.


Edit: bc some people here don't have critical thinking as their attribute let me explain

The only way you get to be good at what you do (meaning you're the best at your job) is to love what you do. If you hate what you do. You won't put in the extra work to keep learning and be creative. Being the best at what you do means you can use that skill to make money. Either for yourself or for the company. If you love the company you work for. You'll be imaginative and work longer hours and find creative ways to increase revenue for your company. Doing this will make the company money and make you an invaluable employee. If you are an invaluable employee they won't fire you because as a business owner that would be fucking stupid. They will only fire those who are not valuable to them. Hence a liability. Indianguy. Please don't insult me because the highest you've worked at is a sushi cook. So idk why you're saying I'm uneducated in this matter.

I'm sure you've taken a lot of theoretical economic classes, but that's what they are, theory. In practice, hiring decisions are made differently, and since I don't have much experience other than a few internships, I'll let averageazn explain this.
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