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Antagonist Cheater
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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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| GannoK wrote: |
You're what's wrong with America these days. The fact that you take Donald Trump seriously proves that you just have no respect for people with legitimate values of concern. |
And you think people that support Trump DOESN'T have legitimate values of concern? If you think so, then your whole arguments up to this point becomes farce because you become naive and bias as so your arguments will be labeled as thus holds no value. Also, there is a growing population of Trump's favor percentage is growing by the months actually in the recent polls it looks like top GOP candidates have a strong chance against Hillary in the general election. According to The Hill - http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/260621-polls-top-gop-candidates-lead-clinton-in-general-election
and by the way, even Marco Rubio beats Sanders.
| GannoK wrote: |
You realize that Donald Trump is probably going to continue the
war on drugs, expand our military, and has ALL THE POWERS OF THE NDAA, THANKS OBAMA.
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How is he going to continue the war on drugs? He has been consistently been opposed to illegal drug trades even before he ran for president. And building the Wall will help fix that too. And no its not going to come from tax payers money, it will be paid by Mexico. Obviously you aren't aware with any of it because you shove Bernie videos down peoples throat but dont watch any of Trumps interviews or his speeches. While Ive seen Bernie's interview and speeches. What's wrong with expanding our military? Do you not see how we are not respected militarily? Putin just told our military to not interfere when he launched air strikes against Syrian. Which Trump has always wanted to do btw, and now US admits that launching air strikes was a good move and now France is doing it as well and wants US to do it too.
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This man does not deserve all the power of the world. Nobody willing to demonize the MAJORITY of Mexican immigrants deserves to be president. I guarantee that once he is in office he will operate as a dictator and attempt to bypass congress and the courts every step of the way. We don't need that. We need someone who is able to reason and work with people. |
What evidence do you have that he will do this? Youre making such wild accusations, its unbelievable that you actually believe what you are saying. He has already criticized Obama for trying to do the same thing by signing executive orders because he cant even get the Democrats to side with him. And there is recent news that 47 democrats were against obama in passing that syrian refugee bill.
http://thehill.com/homenews/house/260782-house-defies-obama-approves-bill-halting-syrian-refugees
You just seem like an uninformed voter like many millennials on my Facebook newsfeed. I actually read and watch this shit on the daily from different credible sources and independent sources as well as economy, business, etc. I'm fairly educated in what's going on in the real world.
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Bernie says the Paris terrorist attack was because of global warming???
http://www.ibtimes.com/democratic-debate-bernie-sanders-says-climate-change-helps-terrorism-spread-2183773
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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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Trumps biggest concerns are creating boundaries, ruining the middle class by giving the wealthy MORE tax breaks, and stroking his ego. He is racist, he wants to deport millions of Mexicans who work for us, he doesn't value Muslims as people and he wants to just get rid of them from our country. That's just completely illegal and it's not going to happen. His values are that of a fascist dictator.
You know the fastest and best way to clean up the war on drugs? Legalize and decriminalize all drugs. Get the market out of the mexican cartels hands, because there will ALWAYS be a demand for drugs. Prohibition didn't stop the mafia from owning the alcohol business. It created a dangerous market. It's time we do the same with all drugs and regulate it responsibly and treat people who are addicted like patients, not criminals. Look at Spain, Portugal, and other countries that have legalized drugs. Their crime rates and addiction rates are all down. if you actually did any research like you say you do, you would know this. But you're a republican so you're selective of your information, I don't knock you down for that. I should but it's to be expected.
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/portugal-drug-decriminalization/
Expanding our military is a terrible idea, and there are so many reasons why. One of the biggest reasons why is that we don't need to expend human lives when we are breaking through in drone and robotics technology. We don't need more deaths of our fellow Americans. I mean hell, if trump gets put into power, I wouldn't be surprised if he calls for a draft to put us all on a suicide mission with Russia, NK, and China. He doesn't have a history of being a wise leader in his businesses. He fucks everyone else below him. That's not being a leader, that's being a self concerned psychopath that gets rich off the expense of his disposable employees.
And you're a fucking moron for not even reading the article about climate change you linked. The Pentagon and CIA agree that climate change is playing a factor into international conflict. Do you not even feel that the CIA and Pentagon know what they are talking about? I trust their word over a lot. They see Climate Change as the main opponent of the human race.
""Climate change is directly related to the rise of global terrorism," Sanders said, adding that it would cause nations to start "struggling over limited amounts of water, limited amounts of land to grow their crops, and you're going to see all kinds of international conflict," ABC News reported. Sanders backed up his statement by mentioning what "the CIA says," a likely reference to a July 2015 report from the U.S. Department of Defense that found "global climate change will aggravate problems such as poverty, social tensions, environmental degradation, ineffectual leadership and weak political institutions that threaten stability in a number of countries," according to a news release."
You call me an uniformed voter, but I think it's you filled with misinformation and confirmation bias from the GOP. They are all Climate change deniers. they all disagree with the DoD and the CIA, the main people in charge of national defense. You're not educated, stop with the holier than thou attitude because it just makes you come off as an egotistical prick, even though you hardly have an ego to begin with.
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Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2015 2:46 am Post subject: |
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Bro your whole entire argument is mainly sprouted from biased roots with baseless predictions. With those extreme predictions I could say the same about what Sanders could do.
So you say Trump is screwing the middle class by giving the rich tax breaks, don't forget the middle class gets a large tax cut too. And don't forget majority of his voters are middle class. Those are who he appeals to. I don't understand how the middle class people are getting screwed out of this. And if you think the rich should pay more in taxes, thats just retarded and I don't need any supportive arguments to support that claim.
You also forget that I already mentioned that he wrote a book that his first offer is always aggressive 100% of the time. He's a negotiator. You are looking at his position from such a linear perspective. You clearly don't understand strategy. Plus, even if he can pull it off, they are ILLEGAL immigrants. I don't understand why that's a no brainer. It is unfair for them to take advantage of the resources U.S provides while others are still waiting online to come here legally. They are taking advantage of our system and costing us money while we haven't even sorted out our social problems. Why are we trying to play hero to everyone when we can't afford to? Do you even know the proposed number that the illegal immigrants are costing the US yearly? Plus, Trump said he wants the good one back as he had said over and over again. You show more of yourself being selective of your information than me. All the evidence in your arguments shows that. So how can you say I do it, when you do the same thing? As far as I can tell at least my arguments make more sense than yours with logical reasoning as opposed to saying things that comes out of my ass. I.E assuming that expanding military means calling for a draft and recruiting more people. If that is your BIGGEST reason to not expand military, then all the other reasons falls flat because thats not what expanding military means. It could also mean investing in technology or better training to our current military. You can't say he will do exactly this when you have obviously have no clue how he works. nor do you have a mind of a business man or a negotiator or a strategist or CEO or leader. You can't advice another person what being a leader means when you are not one Gannok. You do not lead anybody and it looks like you can't even lead yourself.
Again you can't say he will lead us into suicide missions to China NK or Russia when you don't have any related evidence that he will do so. As a matter of fact there are many evidence that he WOULDN'T do that. Him wanting to resolve the relationship with Russia and ridiculing Obama not being respected by Putin. Wanting to make fair deals with China and continuing business with them. As far as his track record goes and I've read some of his books, he's been known to be a uniter and far from being divisive. And there are evidence supporting this too by the way. Just read the art of the deal of how many people he's helped that were taken advantage of. There are no evidence of his employees hating him and he has not screwed any of his employees. How does it makes sense for him to screw his employee? Really, I want you to think about that carefully. If he is self absorbed and only cares about making money. How does antagonizing his employees make him more money? The only people hes screwed over were his creditors. And it's not like these creditors got fucked in the ass. They're the biggest banks in the world like Chase. IIRC their stocks are doing really well and their quarterly financials have been showing growth. They're also dubbed as "too big to fail banks". So who really did he screw? Hmm?
That's funny you trust their word when they're siding with you but not when they're opposing you. Come on man, you're not even consistent with your arguments. You're the one thats always like fuck the government fuck this fuck that. They're all stupid and corrupt. You make no sense.
And do you even watch ISIS muslim extremist videos? Do you hear what they are saying? They're definitely not saying "Im blowing up US buildings because I want to steal their water and their food" or "Im cutting off Christian heads because they're taking space from our land to grow crops". It is really a conventional wisdom what they stand behind and it's not because they're thirsty or poor. ISIS makes 1 million a day on their oil.
I don't propose a plan to fix the drug war because I don't have experience in solving social or political problems. Neither do you so you can shut the fuck up about that.
edit: You are also misinformed about the Syrian refugees. He says that he doesn't want them in the U.S and it doesn't make sense for them to stay in the U.S 2 oceans and a continent away from their homes. It has been reported that Refugees want to come back to their own country. The opposing arguments says that these refugees come in by the thousands and there are more strong men than women/children. This clearly raise eyebrows for some of them COULD be ISIS as they also mention that it may not be as well, just the possibility that it could. And that is a risk we can't afford taking. They have also suggested that we built safe zones on the outskirts of Syria. Because essentially its the security that matter to them. The US can still provide this security without them being in our soil and essentially also preventing the possibility of the consequences that would cost the US. Youre making it sound like they want the Syrians to just fuck off. Which is 100% invalid.
Also, the next president will inherit a 20 trillion dollar debt and a budget thats far from balanced. Trump is the only candidate that has shown a proven successful track record of being able handle, leverage, and fix debts. His experience to set priority and make tough decisions will be invaluable as he has proven himself to able to do many times and again.
Edit: Trump just said if US were to be involved against ISIS he'd want Russians to have at least 75,000 ground troops. Supporting evidence that he doesn't treat our military men and women like expendable chess pieces. You're arguments against him are seriously based on false accusations and you don't even know the guy. Trump has a 69 year record of not being out of control and not making stupid decisions. So your crazy predictions about trump being a dictator and fucking everybody is just amazing
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Also, while community college isn't as expensive as a nice university, it's still fucking expensive. It's like $300 per semester for one class at the college next to me. Someone working minimum wage would have a hard time taking just one class, let alone enough classes to get a degree. You have the option to take out a loan, but everyone knows how shit college loans are.
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Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2015 4:29 pm Post subject: |
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| GannoK wrote: | | http://reverbpress.com/politics/economics/robert-reich-explains-sanders-policies-cost-america-nothing-video/ |
Who are you trying to convince? Bernie isn't going to win first of all. Second, nobody has been able to predict macroeconomics with a reliable platform. I can pull you renowned economist that supports Trumps tax plan and people against his tax plan. People for Bernie's tax plans and against his tax plans. At the end of the day nobody really fucking has any clue. They should all get a job at Wall Street being a forecaster, the demand that human hates admitting the truth that the world is largely random and unpredictable is what employ most people on Wall Street.
"In every seer there is a sucker" and that sucker is you.
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