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ZacTheSin · Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 10:15 pm Post subject:

Internet explorer is still the industry standard.
Autotask (CRM Software) only supports IE for it's admin panel. They're slowly accepting usage of other browsers though for it's other parts though.

Hero · Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 11:04 pm Post subject:

My pc bsod'd while running 2 flash based videos at once, one in full screen. Was weird. My pc never bsod besides the occasional one from playing bc2, but thats driver related.

isarah · How do I cheat? Reputation: 0 Joined: 23 Mar 2011 Posts: 6

I tried the beta but i couldn't feel it , so im hesitating about getting it

AhMunRa · Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 2:35 pm Post subject:

Wow just wow

http://blog.mozilla.com/security/2011/03/25/comodo-certificate-issue-follow-up/

PunkMilitia · Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 7:43 am Post subject:

XSV · Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 8:09 pm Post subject:

I'm undecided about moving to FF4, i like the feel of 3.6.16. The new FF4 seems too "Chrome"-y.

InternetIsSeriousBusiness · Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 9:26 pm Post subject:

Hero · Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 11:05 pm Post subject:

PunkMilitia · Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 6:50 am Post subject:

Firefox was once upon a time ahead of it's competition (IE)
due to it's advertising & extensions & it was a bit faster too.

IE has kept improving since then and FF pretty much has
stayed the same but alot of people keep on the FF wagon
because they think it still has the upper hand which it does
only inthe form of extensions.

Other browsers have been rivaling FF in the extension
department such as Opera and Chrome will surely follow.

This is not a browser war, it's a war on oppinions -

IE does most things correctly - not always at the best speed though

FF looks OK and has extensions but is slower than most

Chrome looks good and is fast enough with great support and
helps with cloud computing

Opera is fast, secure, looks good and has extensions which
expand as more and more people switch.

Opera looks like the "best" browser however due to me using the cloud
alot I used Chrome which I find not as good as Opera but whatever.

atom0s · Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 7:17 am Post subject:

PunkMilitia · Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 7:36 am Post subject:

Sorry Wican but it has been proving many, MANY times before that FF is less secure & slower than most fo the other browsers:

http://home.comcast.net/~SupportCD/FirefoxMyths.html

Is a good read, it doesn't say anything on FF4 but in the end FF4 is worst than FF3.

I did have a look at W3C tests between FF4, IE 7 & Opera anyway just in case and surprise, surprise FF has the worst bench.

atom0s · Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 10:39 am Post subject:

My post didn't once mention speed. Sorry but a homebrewed Comcast site from a fanboy isn't exactly valid proof of anything. Having institutions handle the testing without bias is more valid then someone ranting on about their opinion.

The link you gave goes off hear-say opinions. Not actual facts about the browsers. Not even facts or opinions from the creators of the browsers. (Not just Firefox, he menitons others with opinions as well.)

He does link to some valid testing information:

Opera: http://secunia.com/advisories/product/10615/
- Effected by 56 Vulnerabilities
- Unfixed: 4%

IE6: http://secunia.com/advisories/product/11/
- Effected by 227 Vulnerabilities
- Unfixed: 15%

IE8: http://secunia.com/advisories/product/21625/
- Effected by 78 Vulnerabilities
- Unfixed: 32%

FF3: http://secunia.com/advisories/product/28698/
- Effected by 96 Vulnerabilities
- Unfixed: 0%

Sadly he doesn't mention that info on his site, guess he "missed" it. /sarcasm Funny how FF is the only one that keeps up to date with known vulnerabilities.

Google Chrome isn't on this site either so can't post any info from this specific site regarding that. They mention they support it but they don't have a page for it yet.

Vulnerabilities are also fault to what runs inside the browser. For example, Flash. There are plenty of exploits and vulnerabilities in Flash that are not the fault of the browser, but the implementation of the controller itself. Given that each browser has to have the controller implemented differently, there are bound to be exploits that work on one browser but not another.

As for speed, I personally don't care which browser is faster. I don't use a browser because it starts .5 milliseconds faster then another. I stick to a browser for security, extensions that I personally use/need, and best fits me. Is FF the fastest? Probably not. But even the links you gave prove its the most secure.

PunkMilitia · Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:29 pm Post subject:

Wican, you do see FF was the least secure in all of those tests (apart from ie6 which is VERY outdated now and unfair to test on.), right? Fail.

also - like I said earlier, Choosing a browser is mostly based on yoru opinion of the browser and your uses for it I use chrome because I use the Cloud alot - FF users use FF for extensions - Opera users use Opera for the best all round browsing experience and so on.

Ad-Blockers and other extensions are the extensions I class as important.

atom0s · Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 3:21 pm Post subject:

AhMunRa · Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 3:28 pm Post subject:

@PunkMalitia

Note the percentages of those vulns that remain unfixed.

IE8: http://secunia.com/advisories/product/21625/
- Effected by 78 Vulnerabilities
- Unfixed: 32%

FF3: http://secunia.com/advisories/product/28698/
- Effected by 96 Vulnerabilities
- Unfixed: 0%

Also IE has never held to standards, even ones they themselves set.
The Acid test. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acid3 Developed to test browsers adherance to standards set by Web Standards Project.

Some results http://www.devseo.co.uk/blog/view/the-acid-3-test-the-latest-browser-results Take these with a grain of salt. I don't trust their results on IE8 are genuine. Personally I think it would score way higher than what they list.

The good news. There is no one browser that we all have to use. We are all able to chose the ones which we prefer. Isn't it great!

I stopped using IE just when Mozilla came out. It was way better than IE in those days, mainly due to it disallowing pop-ups from day one. IE in those days was riddled with them. I have just stuck with it ever since. I do like Safari though. As far as Google Chrome. I hate it. I like the look, but there is something very very Big Brotheresque about Google these days.

I use FF not for extensions, but because in my experience the FF team has listened to users and given us what we wanted. Tabbed browsing, 1st, popup blockers, 1st again. A browser that doesn't get pwned by an image with an improperly formatted header, 1st once more.

Now on the other side of the coin. From a business and administration standpoint, IE is head and shoulders over any other browser. This is due to it's integration into Windows though.