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I've been thinking about this. and I know that VB6 isn't up to par in this field compared to other languages, and just wanted to know what everyone else thinks is the best language for bot creation.
so far i got Python/Delphi/VB6/GTK/Java 1.6
but i dont know which is best for this type of use.
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if its maple... C++ is the best language to get something that looks like a bot for maple... in my opinion... maple patched virtual keystrokes...
if its something else than C++/Delphi or w/e u like... I'd take delphi to build a bot for anything else but maple... but thats just me
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| Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 12:53 pm Post subject: |
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nah i dont play maplestory, too cartoony and the grind is horrid D:
but ok i guess ill start reading up on some delphi commands  thanks for the quick answer.
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| Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 1:10 pm Post subject: |
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Java is NOT a botting language...
it makes for horrid bots because it doesn't use win32 api
java is horrid
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| Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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| blankrider wrote: | Java is NOT a botting language...
it makes for horrid bots because it doesn't use win32 api |
A program does not need Win32 API to bot, especially one that is designed to be multi-platform.
| blankrider wrote: | | java is horrid |
You are ignorant.
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| Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 2:21 pm Post subject: |
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| DeltaFlyer wrote: | | blankrider wrote: | | java is horrid |
You are ignorant. |
You are a java zealot.
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tell me how java isn't shit
you can't access windows api
you NEED java installed
you CANT compile to .exe only .jars
and can't do half of the stuff you can in other languages because java is meant to be "secure"
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| Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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| appalsap wrote: | | DeltaFlyer wrote: | | blankrider wrote: | | java is horrid |
You are ignorant. |
You are a java zealot. |
As you are one of C/ASM.
| blankrider wrote: | tell me how java isn't shit
you can't access windows api
you NEED java installed
you CANT compile to .exe only .jars
and can't do half of the stuff you can in other languages because java is meant to be "secure" |
Windows API: How many programs actually NEED the Win32 API? Other than security and "hacking" related, not many.
Need Java installed: Java is available on almost every major desktop platform as well as mobile platforms. Installation is quick and painless. Latest JRE for Windows is around 14mB. Saying one needs Java to be installed can be compared to saying that you need Windows installed to run programs compiled for Windows.
Can't compile to exe: Java's main strength: it's portable. Java's motto is "Compile once, run everywhere". A compiled Jar could be run on any platform supporting JRE and run as if it's on the platform it was created.
Can't do half the stuff [...]: name them.
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can you access sockets with java?
what about dlls (not sure about this one)
Can't access other windows or control the OS as well
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| blankrider wrote: | | can you access sockets with java? |
Java is famed for its networking capabilities.
Socket: http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/docs/api/java/net/Socket.html
| blankrider wrote: | | what about dlls (not sure about this one) |
First, DLLs are platform specific to Windows. In fact, they are almost identical to EXEs in its format. Using DLLs goes against Java's motto of portability. However, where needed, Java provides the interface to be able to load shared libraries such as DLLs compiled with the JNI headers using a C compiler, and call the functions housed in these libraries. Although, not being able to access shared libraries is not a limitation to the language, as most functions residing in the library could be ported to Java code.
| blankrider wrote: | | Can't access other windows or control the OS as well |
For what purpose would you want to access other windows or control the OS?
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getting handles of programs
changing stuff in other programs, like memory.
Have fun with java  im done, this is stupid
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| blankrider wrote: | getting handles of programs
changing stuff in other programs, like memory.
Have fun with java im done, this is stupid |
What's the use of changing memory other than to provide security to other programs/the OS, to "hack", and to attempt to screw up the system? You're basing all of your claims on a tiny corner of the programming arena, where one does not need the handle to another Windows program to do something useful.
And yes, making claims such as:
| blankrider wrote: | | java is horrid |
without any facts to back it up is very stupid.
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why learn java when c++ can do everything and more?
why is it better...dont say its portable, because thats a shitty reason
name 1 thing java can do c++ cant
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| blankrider wrote: | why learn java when c++ can do everything and more?
why is it better...dont say its portable, because thats a shitty reason
name 1 thing java can do c++ cant |
You try putting a C++ program onto a web page viewable by all major web browsers.
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| Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 3:54 pm Post subject: |
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| DeltaFlyer wrote: | | You try putting a C++ program onto a web page viewable by all major web browsers. |
im sorry.. but that was pwn right there =\
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