Cheat Engine

notu · Newbie cheater Reputation: 0 Joined: 26 Mar 2006 Posts: 20

I can't seem to be able to find the values in some commercial games and also in every flash game. Double values used to be the value type for flash games but now it's useless to search the value in it. I would like to be told the new way to find values for flash games. Also, the commercial games that cannot be searched because there was no known value type for it. I would appreciate someone to tell me how to find the values in these two types of games. Thanks.

Example of a commercial game would be: Age of Empires 2: Age of Kings(Latest Patch)

You will notice that no flash game can be searched now.

algrn912005 · Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 4:44 pm Post subject:

but the problem with downgrading is that you sometimes can't play some of the newer flash games. I have tried that once so I switched back to flash 8

notu · Newbie cheater Reputation: 0 Joined: 26 Mar 2006 Posts: 20

So appearantly we can't hack flash games now, or at least with Flash 8 installed?

BTW I forgot to mention that I used every way I can before I even posted here. Appreciate the help though.

Since i didn't get the help i was looking for, let me carry on.

My next problem are commercial games. Now adays you just can't click search and find it instantly. I find some single player games impossible to find a simple correct value such as HitPoints. Try searching this value on any of the new games since 2004. You will not be able to find the value with any of the value types available on Cheat Engine. I'm sure you won't like the idea that Cheat Engine can't help you on it anymore.

Or if there's a way to hack these games. Let me know, I've been searching for a way for a few months now.

Dark Byte · Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 12:51 am Post subject:

use changed/unchanged value scans
Then when you've found it use find out what writes to this address, and then ude that data you get to figure out how they store the value.
e.g age of empires 3 uses xor keys to encrypt the value

notu · Newbie cheater Reputation: 0 Joined: 26 Mar 2006 Posts: 20

So value encryptions have entered the scene now...I see now. Thanks for the response.

So how do you know what the value is, if you can't search for the value with exact search? Mind letting me in on this?

Here's one of my attempts.
I think i found the right value for gold in a strategy game.

Here's the function i think...It was suppose to add gold.

cparty · Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 12:40 pm Post subject:

Warcraft3 has the gold stored multiplied by 10, so if you have 1249 gold you search for 12490 (ValueType 4 Bytes).

If you cannot find the values in newer games try changed/unchanged search as DB suggested.

Dark Byte · Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 1:09 pm Post subject:

wasn't it the other way arround in WC3 that you had your gold is devided by 10 in memory (so 50 gold would be 5)?

cparty · Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 1:18 pm Post subject:

notu · Newbie cheater Reputation: 0 Joined: 26 Mar 2006 Posts: 20

I checked and it was multiplied by 10. Yes but the question here is how do u decode that long function?

XOR and OR are one of the commands I don't understand at all.

If i can get help for this, maybe I can decode without furthur help..

personmans · Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 8:57 pm Post subject:

well for OR, its just what it looks like.

or edx, ff

edx = edx OR FF
you use the or by taking the register/variable value and converting to binary....
say edx is FF -> 11111111 and FF is... well also FF.... 11111111

stack em:
11111111
11111111
what do you get? 00000000 why? because 1 + 1 = 2... and there's no 2 so you get 0. Heh, so i suck at explaining things, whatever. Now for XOR, its the same idea except 1 + 1 = 2 and that makes it 1 again... XOR means exclusive OR...

thats pretty much all i know about those two... and if anyone has more to add please do so.. i hate or/xor's

cparty · Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 9:51 am Post subject:

You already got the meaning by personmans explanation, though he could have chosen a better example and in the land of bits there is no 2.

AND, OR, XOR are bitwise operators. To convert a number to its Bits you can use windows calculator in scientific mode, view binary. Or just sum/subtract the values the bits stand for:

notu · Newbie cheater Reputation: 0 Joined: 26 Mar 2006 Posts: 20

They are very complicated but I understand now that the values used in the commands are not hex but bin. That clears up a lot of things for me. Thanks for the big help.

UberNoob · Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 9:06 pm Post subject:

Do what I do... for this example...

I'll take your code...

personmans · Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 9:59 pm Post subject:

notu · Newbie cheater Reputation: 0 Joined: 26 Mar 2006 Posts: 20

Well, editing registries only works everytime you play with CE. By learning how to decode such encryptions it is possible to just make a trainer and no longer have the hassle of searching things all over again.
I'm having a hard time decoding, although i'm only starting.