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Cloud gaming has been tried many times before by a bunch of different companies with different business models, but it never took off. I always thought it could only succeed after 5G becomes a (widespread) thing. However, apparently Google will already be releasing Stadia by the end of the year.
According to some articles I read, Google has a much better chance of pulling it off because they already have data centers around the world. Makes sense, but I'm still pretty skeptical.

I also wish that instead of being just for games, there would be a service where you could stream Windows, and use it for programs other than games too. Is there a technical reason why they're not doing this? Easier to stream games, somehow?
Or is it just because they'll likely make more profit if people can't play any of the games they already bought from other stores?

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br0l0ck · Cheater Reputation: 63 Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 38

streaming an OS would essentially be remote access to a device you dont own. similar to teamviewer, or just SSH. I have used similar things for classes, where they give you a machine that you can use from your browser.
so in short: we already have this technology and its not an issue because latency isnt that bad in things that aren't games.

clash of clans hacks · Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2019 7:26 pm Post subject:

I don't think that's it.
If you could stream Windows with the latency that Google claims it will offer, then you could play all games, including their mods, instead of just the much smaller number of games that will be available. There's also a lot of professions in which demanding programs are used that do require low latency. It would be so great to be able to work anywhere on a light netbook with a long battery life instead of an expensive, heavy, bulky, and loud laptop that can't go 1-2 hours without a charge (or not being able to work away from your desk at all).

Now that I think about it, the reason is most probably memory.

br0l0ck · Cheater Reputation: 63 Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 38

TheIndianGuy · Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2019 7:46 pm Post subject:

clash of clans hacks · Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2019 7:55 pm Post subject:

Yeah, I've tried services like those before and have never had any good experiences, latency-wise. I'm in Europe though, and they were all based in either the US or Asia, so maybe the latency is much worse than where you are, or maybe my internet is just shit, idk.
I only saw your post after I already posted.
It's also about being able to play any game and its mods, instead of being restricted to the list of Stadia's games.

I meant memory as in storage. Like, they'd only need one copy of the game on their server, that can be streamed to everyone, instead of everyone's files, that can only be streamed to that specific person. I don't know much about how this works though, so correct me if I'm wrong.

br0l0ck · Cheater Reputation: 63 Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 38

its pretty inexpensive to rent server space, they would just limit you to something like 500GB , which would cost someone like google nothing. think about it, I could go right now and upload 1TB of content to youtube for free.

clash of clans hacks · Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2019 8:33 pm Post subject:

Yeah, I thought that could also affect the speed somehow.

I guess I'll just be waiting a couple more years for 5G, then use my own desktop remotely.

Aniblaze · Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 8:59 pm Post subject:

I'll let you guys know what it's like, as I've bought the founders edition with an extra controller. If it turns out to be sheit, I'll at least have two extra controllers and a 4K streaming device.

t328163 · Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 5:22 am Post subject:

if you have ps4 you're hooked up, no need anything else.

atom0s · Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 3:09 pm Post subject:

Firstly, Stadia isn't a new idea/concept at all. They just copied what other companies have already been doing. They just have the bigger name to put behind the tech and mass-advertise it to make it successful. Services like 'Shadow', 'GeForce Now', 'Parsec', 'Jump', 'Vortex', etc. already do the exact same thing. (The most well known two are probably Shadow and GeForce Now.)

These services never really take off in their current form because of the market they are targeting, which is mobile gaming. The goal is to play your PC games on your phone/tablet on the go. But the biggest issue is data limits on mobile plans still.

If you are in the USA, the biggest scam with phone data plans is the fake branding of being 'unlimited'. All the plans available always come with the fine print of being 'unlimited' for a certain amount of data per month, then you are throttled to 1G/2G speeds or 'de-prioritized' on the carriers network. Which is essentialy is the same thing as being throttled all the time anyway.

Currently, there is only a really small niche market this is going to land up targeting which is those that are rich or can afford the lower-cost service plans but can't afford a full gaming machine at home. Meaning it won't be a mobile experience for those using it and instead will just be a system replacement for those that don't have a real gaming machine but have a great internet connection. (A lot of eastern countries have amazing internet but people have lower-end machines due to hardware prices and availability.)

Until 5G rolls out and we see carriers move back towards true unlimited data plans, we probably won't see these kinds of services really take off.

As for the full computer streaming desire, there are services that already offer these kinds of things. You can also just rent a dedicated box and remote into it. Latency at that point depends on the place you rent from and distance from yourself. I use a dedicated box for some remote development and build server stuff, and never have any latency issues as it's in the same region as me.

If you are using it for non-gaming related things, latency shouldn't be that big of a concern. And I can't think of anything that would be time-critical in terms of latency (like gaming is) that current solutions available would cause a problem.

For what you are looking for, services like Shadow can already be used for that kind of stuff. You are renting a high-powered gaming ready blade in a server data center that has optimial latency and routing etc. You can also get a higher end router to help assist with best-path-routing configurations to reduce hops to the server(s) of your choice for both gaming and remote work like this.