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		TheyCallMeTim13 Wiki Contributor
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				 Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 6:41 am    Post subject:  | 
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				First off, I don't have win 10. But from what I understand there was an update to windows 10 somewhere around the first of October that added TruePlay. So rolling back an update might do the trick; but I actually have some doubts, seems like it would be something that can't be truly disabled and the "opt-out" may just be about the data they collect and send to the TruePlay servers.
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		greenfrog Newbie cheater
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				 Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 9:08 am    Post subject:  | 
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				Okay so I've found a couple of addresses that match the money/credit value.  
 
They dont change when i change the value, nor do they when i change the registry value. It just changes the on screen amount... not the actual money value.
 
 
So I'm trying to locate it as a hidden value using Unknown initial value of All types. 4 Billion results come up but when I do the next unchanged scan absolutely nothing comes up. 
 
 
As usual any help is greatly appreciated for a novice like me! 
 
 
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		TheyCallMeTim13 Wiki Contributor
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				 Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 9:18 am    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | greenfrog wrote: | 	 		  Okay so I've found a couple of addresses that match the money/credit value.  
 
They dont change when i change the value, nor do they when i change the registry value. It just changes the on screen amount... not the actual money value.
 
 
So I'm trying to locate it as a hidden value using Unknown initial value of All types. 4 Billion results come up but when I do the next unchanged scan absolutely nothing comes up. 
 
 
As usual any help is greatly appreciated for a novice like me! 
 
 
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Would you mind detailing what got the debugger working, so others can more easily follow?
 
 
I'd try it with just 4 byte, I'd be willing to bet the values will be encrypted.
 
Chris Fayte just did a new tutorial about encrypted values.
 
https://youtu.be/eU4UGVvQDME
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		greenfrog Newbie cheater
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				 Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 10:20 am    Post subject:  | 
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				I've just seen this, going to watch it later, thanks!
 
 
I don't think I did anything fancy, I watched a video on how to enable DBVM (can't link urls yet)
 
 
Then I did what Dark Byte said as I hadn't updated cheat engine to the latest version (6.8.1). 
 
 
Then I loaded cheat engine, made sure kernelmode was activated, 
 
then enable DBVM on the about screen. 
 
 
After that I just loaded up FH4 whilst disabling my internet connection. 
 
 
I hope you get it working![/url]
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		OldCheatEngineUser Whateven rank
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				 Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 11:02 am    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | greenfrog wrote: | 	 		  | Then I did what Dark Byte said as I hadn't updated cheat engine to the latest version (6.8.1).  | 	  
 
because 6.8 had lot of issues, so after all its not game issue. (even if the game have some sort of protection and cheat-detection)
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		amateurhackerman How do I cheat?
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				 Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 7:47 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				I am still having issues with the game crashing. If I launch the game, after enabling DBVM, it always crashes on the initial loading screen (before I even attach the debugger to the game). I followed all the same steps outlined above by greenfrog.
 
 
Here's the setup im running if it helps:
 
 
cheat engine version 6.8.1 on an i7-4770k. 
 
Latest Windows 10 version.
 
Game is installed on a separate 2TB HDD. OS and Cheat Engine are installed on a SSD.
 
16GB RAM.
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		STN I post too much
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				 Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 4:43 am    Post subject:  | 
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				Credits are encrypted, you need to do a unknown initial value/changed/unchanged scan. 
 
 
Right click on CE icon and click to launch DBVM. I also had kernelmode debugger enabled in settings. Then right click on any address and choose "DBVM: Find out what"
 
 
 
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		greenfrog Newbie cheater
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				 Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 9:45 am    Post subject:  | 
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				Have been doing the changed/unchanged scans, but I can never find a solid result that I can verify as credits/money by changing the value slightly. Will keep trying.
 
 
As for the DBVM, I can use the normal find what accesses/writes commands on values somehow. Is it suggested to use DBVM anyway? 
 
 
Amateurhackerman - Have you tried restarting your PC? A restart or a sleep is required to disable DBVM from cheat engine. When I did this the initial loading screen crash stopped and the game ran fine. Worked for me, hope it works for you.
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		TheyCallMeTim13 Wiki Contributor
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				 Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 11:03 am    Post subject:  | 
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				I tend to just freeze encrypted values to find the right one.
 
 
And yeah, when enabling DBVM it even tells you to restart the PC; and for what I understand it has to be a true shutdown and restart, not sleep or hibernate. And win 10 doesn't do that by default, it only goes into a hibernate state when you shutdown; and you have to enable a setting somewhere to get a true shutdown.
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		greenfrog Newbie cheater
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				 Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 2:38 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | STN wrote: | 	 		  Credits are encrypted, you need to do a unknown initial value/changed/unchanged scan. 
 
 
Right click on CE icon and click to launch DBVM. I also had kernelmode debugger enabled in settings. Then right click on any address and choose "DBVM: Find out what"
 
 
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yeah man, keep hitting bad addresses and crashing though. It takes sooo long to get back to sub 50 results though. in FH4. Guess I'll have to keep trying until I find the value.
 
 
I got my scan down to 10 results, but none of them were credits. 
 
I was only doing changed/unchanged scans. There are quite a few screens in Forza... I'm wondering if the value disappears when you're not in the garage menu. Are other games like this? I subtracted credits by buying stuff, and added credits by winning a race. I didn't fumble the scan types. I don't know why I cant find the address. Any help would be super, thanks!
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		STN I post too much
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				 Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 2:39 am    Post subject:  | 
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				Not sure why? I managed to find it fine   
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		greenfrog Newbie cheater
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				 Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 2:12 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | STN wrote: | 	 		  Not sure why? I managed to find it fine    | 	  
 
 
Did you exit your house and do races between scans?
 
 
I keep getting to 8 results with the same addresses 
 
 
 ibb . co/mRb5i0 (cant post URLs)
 
 
Do any of those look familiar to you? I've frozen all of them and the credits donn't freeze.
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		Ragil35 How do I cheat?
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				 Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2018 7:05 pm    Post subject: Diposting Rabu 24 Oktober  2018  Kok akun saya begini ada yg | 
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				 	  | OldCheatEngineUser wrote: | 	 		   	  | greenfrog wrote: | 	 		  |  'Failure determining what "vehdebug-x86_64.initializeVEH" means'. | 	  
 
maybe db can help you with this, or if its TruePlay then find a way remove/disable this MS-Patch.
 
 
i think it can also be:
 
 
- your account dont have debugging-rights / administrator-rights (try running CE "run as admin...")
 
 
- issues with VEH procedure maybe something is blocking it / messing around with it ... idk really | 	  [quote[/quote]
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		Antoshick Advanced Cheater
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				 Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 10:19 am    Post subject:  | 
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				| I activate DBVM in "aboute" but button "start watch" not active, is this becouse physical address=invalid? What need to do for fix it?
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		greenfrog Newbie cheater
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				 Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 1:37 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | Antoshick wrote: | 	 		  | I activate DBVM in "aboute" but button "start watch" not active, is this becouse physical address=invalid? What need to do for fix it? | 	  
 
 
I finally found the credits address. You don't need to use DBVM if you want to make a one time change to the value ie. make it 999 million (more than enough money). 
 
 
If you're wanting to make a cheat table however, I'm not sure I can help you with your problem.
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