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CLIFFORD'S PREDICTION #3: TRUMP VICTORY 11/8/16
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sbryzl
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2016 3:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"The government allowed it to happen"

Thanks for making my point.

Fannie and Freddie were just cogs in a giant corrupt machine. Pervasive greed and selfishness went unchecked. Loans were candy and wallstreet was pooping lollipops and licking them up. Low and middle income were targeted so it makes sense that fannie and freddie would get embroiled since that's who they help most.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2016 10:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice cognitive dissonance absolutely disregarding everything I said and focusing on one statement just so you can appear to be right.

I don't think you understand how businesses works. They're not here to save the world. They're there to make money and to keep the economy flowing. Especially with banking. It's a soulless business that necessary.

Stop trying to put moral responsibility on them. Because that's not their obligation.

If you want a big corporations that's all la-di-da save the world bullshit start your own corporation.

Basically if you don't know what's going on behind the scenes don't try to assume you know any better because these guys that run the economy are astronomical geniuses. And you assuming something you have 0 knowledge of is stupid.

Real estate like every industry is a cyclical business. There has been downturn worse than the crash in 2008. There was the 1990 S&L crash that made 2008 look like a joke.

Seriously. Read a book.

The one thing about the 2008 crash is that we recovered much weaker than any other downturn because of the government.

Basically everything the government touches they fuck up. Ex: manufacturing, coal, oil, etc.

We have the largest oil reserve in the world, much bigger than the Saudis and Russians. We are so rich.mwe have so much resources and wealth in this country. We just have stupid people not knowing how to use those resources.

Take a look at the picture below from a $350 class I took about the downturn to illustrate the downturns.


Last thing to answer your loans that were given like candy.

It wasn't the banks that lowered the standard to get a loan, it was the government.

If a poor guy with bad credit suddenly finds out he can get a loan and asks for a loan, the bank is morally obligated to give him a loan.

So who is greedy? The people that asked for the loans? Or the people that provided the loans?

Banks just do what they do. They're a business. They're not your fucking parents. People got loans anyways. Poor people saw other people got rich quick from buying real estate so the people got greedy and started applying for loans. The government allowed that to happen. Not the banks.



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2016 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You keep repeatedly proving my point.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2016 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you have no point.

my point is you dont know what the fuck youre talking about and your basis is hurr durr corporations are greedy capitalism is bad omg my life is unfair. the rich are evil!!!!

what do you even do for a living?

>im a programmer
>i know about the markets
>i know more about the economy than people who do finance for a living

youre a joke. anybody with room temperature IQ can tell that youre full of shit trying to act like you know what's going on.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2016 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your awful sure of yourself for a pile of hot steaming excrement.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2016 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sbryzl wrote:
Your awful sure of yourself for a pile of hot steaming excrement.


I'm everything but wrong :^)

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2016 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Antagonist wrote:
you have no point.

my point is you dont know what the fuck youre talking about and your basis is hurr durr corporations are greedy capitalism is bad omg my life is unfair. the rich are evil!!!!

what do you even do for a living?

>im a programmer
>i know about the markets
>i know more about the economy than people who do finance for a living

youre a joke. anybody with room temperature IQ can tell that youre full of shit trying to act like you know what's going on.

You probably want to call yourself a "software engineer" instead of a "programmer".
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2016 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not a software engineer or a programmer. I'm a financial analyst so idk. I call them computer guys
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 8:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm not a software engineer or a programmer. I'm a financial analyst so idk. I call them computer guys

You work in Wells Fargo or something?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 10:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Waxxup wrote:
Antagonist wrote:
I'm not a software engineer or a programmer. I'm a financial analyst so idk. I call them computer guys

You work in Wells Fargo or something?


No I'm working with a former vp of a medium-large size firm 50-100 million dollar deals. He started his own firm and wanted me to help him focusing on lodging, resorts, real estate. And also working with a land brokerage firm doing land acquisition. Intern position for both. I'll have Wells Fargo in play before I graduate. I know they have good programs. I'll have UBS, IntraCorp, Wells Fargo, and Avalonbay.

But not planning to be a financial analyst lmao fuck that

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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if it werent for the democrats the businessmen wouldnt have to pull strings from behind. people in my industry do it all the fucking time because of the stupid regulations. you cant get shit done unless you pay concessions, then media label that as cheating. u mean like the senators and representatives getting rich off of the bribes. its turning to a lot like china lol
what the fuck
>bypassing regulations is fine
>people in my industry


I swear to god you're shot's brother or cousin and the next schizo on the list


please look at how regulation works and speak to specialized lawyers before you open your mouth

>nigga who doesnt have a profession tries to talk like he knows better
>never had any other job other than minimum wage job
>never spent money to learn how the economy works

fyi I've spent over $2100 over the past 6 months to understand the moving pieces of my country's economy.


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Everytime I see people getting on that deregulation kick things start going more to shit.

There are sets of guidelines in place for protecting individual rights. Deregulating causes overbilling, false advertising, pollution and all sorts of other shit which is what turns our country into China. That's exactly what Trump wants, cheap labor, less individual rights and more corporate freedom.

Deregulation led to volatility in the market, numerous corporate scandals, energy blackouts, collapse of the housing market and basically consistently keeps screwing this whole country over and all the nitwits just keep preaching it.



just to answer your question quickly, we have the best clean air technology. idk if youve heard of nuclear energy.

And housing market was caused by government not the free market. What actually started the whole thing was the Community Reinvestment Act back in 1977. There were a lot of legislative and regulatory changes that started in 1989. In 1992 the CRA changed again and that is when Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae got involved (securitized mortgages). In 1994, 1995 and 1999 more changes were made. By 2003 housing was out of control. By 2007 it was crashing. In 2008 B of A had to buy Countrywide, Chase bought Washington Mutual and Wells Fargo bought Wacovia. Strange timeline that the 3 major banks bought all the bad loans from these lenders in the same year. To this day no lending group or individual has been found that they did anything illegal. The did pay huge money to the government around 2013 for their practices. Of course, the practices were fine at the time the government allowed all this to happen.

Read about quantitative easing
Read about how government subsidies effecting the housing market

kyle complains about how school is expensive. well old people can't afford a roof over their head unless they work day shift at your local gas station and night shift at walmart because how the government fucked up social security, the housing market, and interest rate.

low savings
inflated fixed income
expensive housing

then of course theres the EPA who seems to disregard the flint water crisis but they care about pushing regulation on building housing for the seniors to afford. fucking over everything because developers lose a shit load of money when they try to build housing. they also care about plastic bags and coal but love electric cars and their lithium ion batteries - the one that if made a wrong batch, will explode.

im just waiting for one of these lowlifes try to argue with me bc of their cognitive dissonance and think they know any better when they are not involved in any form in the professional industry. everything they say is purely theoretical and have not seen how the functions works



tl;dr

paying off politician $1,000,000 to build housing is ethically better for the PRIVATE SECTOR vs going through litigation process wasting millions and millions of dollars to get anything approved causing the prices to go up and people being mad at you for being "greedy" because you make the prices expensive because you just wasted 2 years of litigation process
>paying politicians to spend the money
yeah no, nice attempt on building up logic but that doesn't justify giving politicians money at all, rather than fixing the issue you just mentioned (litigation) your first idea is to give money to politicians, lolwow, pure genius


nice fallacy on the batteries as well lol, give out real provable statistics depicting the chance of a ion batteries exploding on you, it's unreal unless you believe what the tv says

How can you talk about knowing the innerworkings of politics and industries when:
you're not "rich"
you're another guy posting and fighting on CEFRS
you're shot v2.0
you're putting up lovely fallacies with buzzwords
you ignore questions on purpose often
you literally call people names when disproving of them
you can't argue without attacking the person arguing with you
you're not a politician


I can prove all of my claims except the shotv2 one, can you prove yours? you'll either to setup an excuse while insulting someone or ignore this post
anyone who is anything right now, or anyone whos doing the best with their life are the people who don't argue in here

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2016 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i've had it with your shit. fuck outta here
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2016 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lol okay dude sure thing, you got me idk what I'm talking about because I don't work in the industry and I just watch conspiracy theory videos on youtube
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