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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2016 6:19 pm    Post subject: This is a pretty legit video on Islam Reply with quote

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mSLSzugDfw
Read in Arabic as well with citations of scholars and other things.
EDIT:
oo a video that debunks even more of this shit about how the Quran says scientific facts lmaooo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvG-606KqwU

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2016 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you just trying to make talix unhappy? He seems very fulfilled by his religion and as long as he isn't blowing people up or engaging in polygamy and stuff like some colts do I think we have no reason to attack it. If it makes you feel better I guess...
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2016 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Are you just trying to make talix unhappy? He seems very fulfilled by his religion and as long as he isn't blowing people up or engaging in polygamy and stuff like some colts do I think we have no reason to attack it. If it makes you feel better I guess...
What about these vids does anything malicious? If you watch them they're just very well put together arguments about the subject. If you're suggesting anything negative about Islam (even if it's truthful) shouldn't be said in public infront of someone believing in then you're being pretty silly imo. That's rather anti-truth and anti-free speech.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2016 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BreakinGods wrote:
Are you just trying to make talix unhappy? He seems very fulfilled by his religion and as long as he isn't blowing people up or engaging in polygamy and stuff like some colts do I think we have no reason to attack it. If it makes you feel better I guess...
Talix is misguided and is denying his duty to Allah to be a terrorist, and Konr wants to make sure he isn't going to get the short end of the stick when he gets to heaven.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2016 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

konr wrote:
BreakinGods wrote:
Are you just trying to make talix unhappy? He seems very fulfilled by his religion and as long as he isn't blowing people up or engaging in polygamy and stuff like some colts do I think we have no reason to attack it. If it makes you feel better I guess...
What about these vids does anything malicious? If you watch them they're just very well put together arguments about the subject. If you're suggesting anything negative about Islam (even if it's truthful) shouldn't be said in public infront of someone believing in then you're being pretty silly imo. That's rather anti-truth and anti-free speech.

free-speech isn't protected so we can all agree that kittens puppies and rainbows are cute, it's so we can say vehemently offensive things and not be reprimanded for it, but to get back to the point, I don't think he was saying not to attack him, just that he doesn't see a reason personally to.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2016 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Channel GannoK wrote:
konr wrote:
BreakinGods wrote:
Are you just trying to make talix unhappy? He seems very fulfilled by his religion and as long as he isn't blowing people up or engaging in polygamy and stuff like some colts do I think we have no reason to attack it. If it makes you feel better I guess...
What about these vids does anything malicious? If you watch them they're just very well put together arguments about the subject. If you're suggesting anything negative about Islam (even if it's truthful) shouldn't be said in public infront of someone believing in then you're being pretty silly imo. That's rather anti-truth and anti-free speech.

free-speech isn't protected so we can all agree that kittens puppies and rainbows are cute, it's so we can say vehemently offensive things and not be reprimanded for it, but to get back to the point, I don't think he was saying not to attack him, just that he doesn't see a reason personally to.
I see it more of a counter-weight to the near-constant pro-Islam bombardment from Talix.
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Free speech isn't there so we can say offensive things, it's there so we can say things.. full stop. Whatever though, this isn't even personal at all. This is a subject I speak about quite a bit with people and as HackOtaku said it's counter-weight to the dribble he posts.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2016 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Free speech should never be silenced in any society. When ever this happens society becomes slaves and or rebels. It will always fall apart.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2016 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1vA1pzD128

your shit is biased af lmao.
im not gonna bother myself with something that doesn't concern me, that is exactly what someone who is uneducated on qur'an is going to speak on islam

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYedKXpb5mo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxelJ6ADGes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQVMdh6d3h0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNGqrzkFp_4

literally all of your shit's been debunked.

Titled "As-Sadeeq", "Al-Ameen", "the honest", and "upright"
He came at a time when people were burying their daughters alive
He is the saviour and liberator of all of women's rights.
He was the best husband to his wife.
He was the best friend to his tribe,
The best leader to lead a nation of might.
He was the most equal
to his people
no matter you black or you white.
He's the freer of the slaves, so go ahead and talk as you'd like!
Bilal ibn Rabah the first black man to enter Islam, and to MUHAMMAD!
SALAH ALLAHU ALAYHE WA SALAAM!
He was a man willing to give up his life.
Why?
He was a man of truth and a man of justice
A man of humility yet a man of toughness.
A man of mercy
just look at the city of Ta'if
Pelted and stoned as he preached alone.
Heart broken and cold
Bruised bones and blood soaked shoes.
Yet he just moved on
And prayed to His Lord, "Oh Lord, as long as you're pleased with me, it doesn't matter at all."
Until Angel Gabriel descended and declared, "Give me ONE WORD
And I'll flip these homes."
He said, "No...
just hold on.
Despite everything they did to me,
I'mma just let it go.
For the land may one day breed some sweet believing souls."
So you still want to know why we love him more than we love our own?
An orphan since birth, yet he was still strict on obedience to the mother.
"Heaven is under her feet, so be good, and be sure to love her."
And No, you're not a Muslim unless you love for yourself
what you love for each other.
Do not waste water,
even if you are at a running stream.
And even if you were at war
do not hurt the plants and the trees.
A lover of the environment
so much so a tree
shed tears
once he no longer needed it
to lean.
A lady was never forgiven because her kitten, she failed to feed.
Animals would rush to him because of how he treats in equity.
Birds would flock to him whenever they could see
'cause they could See,
he is a man of morality
and virtue.
Taught humans how to be humans and to have patience
on those who hurt you.
For, of course, a soul with mercy
is better than a soul that's revengeful.
"Have mercy in the lands, and He in the heavens won't ever desert you."
Ranked #1
in Michael Hart's Most Influential
"Feed the hungry,
Visit the sick and
make sure you free the captives."
These are the wise words
that I've captured from the one
who accepted every being
no matter how bad his past is.
Because, pride is for the jahils,
those who are ignorant and backwards.
So go ahead and Do what you do best,
and let the haters keep hating.
While you're busy drawing and painting, burning and making
films that are desecrating the concept of art
how dare you disgrace it.
Take your film and just break it.
Matter of fact, just erase it.
You waste of space,
as you hide inside
and try to escape it.
You knew what you were doing.
just grow up and just face it.
You better just pray that we are as patient as the one you portrayed
in an image that's not true but a figment of your imagination.
And no, you're not free from fault, for it was you who created
and sparked the resulting destruction and devestation
'cause there's freedom of speech
but there's not
freedom of hatred.
To a man who cried every night for the sake of humanity.
"Ummati, Ummati,"
fearing the day we're to face reality
When we're all brought forward to our Lord,
no idea what is happening.
A Day where No friend can help you, nor a sibling to his family.
A Day where they appear drunk and over taken by insanity.
This is crazy
it's a catastrophe
The sun is close to my face
I can feel its gravity!
All the peoples rush to Adam
Noah
Moses
Ibraheem
and finally go to Jesus!
but Jesus says that, "I'm afraid that God is mad at me.
They took me as Lord, I have no idea what's going to happen to me.
GO TO MUHAMMAD,
Peace and blessings of Allah be upon He.
For the second he intercedes and prostrates to His Lord,
His Lord commands him to speak.
He doesn't raise his head
until he SCREAMS,
"PLEASE LEAVE EVERYBODY WHO BELIEVED!
even if it was an atom, a mustard seed."
And yes, his prayers are answered, for they are guaranteed.
SO DON'T ask me again
why I love him
more than I love me.
MUHAMMAD.
SALAH ALLAHU ALAYHE WA SALAAM


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2016 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

melissajava wrote:
Free speech should never be silenced in any society. When ever this happens society becomes slaves and or rebels. It will always fall apart.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2016 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Channel GannoK wrote:
melissajava wrote:
Free speech should never be silenced in any society. When ever this happens society becomes slaves and or rebels. It will always fall apart.

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Yes, similar words were said when discussing the prophethood of Rasulullah salah Allahu alayhe wa salaam.
Islam absolutely calls for the right to speech for all.

http://www.facebook.com/TrueIslamUSA/videos/1587585164892550/
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2016 11:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

even if talix saw the real incarnation of shiva, he wouldn't stop believing islam

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2016 2:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"[Remember] when your Lord inspired to the angels, "I am with you, so strengthen those who have believed. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieved, so strike [them] upon the necks and strike from them every fingertip." Quran 8:12

Notice that in this video he didn't bring any explanation for this verse, Because that he knows that the translation is WRONG. so he just decided to make a fun of the translation.

the original word is "كل بنان" which means "every joint" or "every limb"

"O you who have believed, fight those adjacent to you of the disbelievers and let them find in you harshness. And know that Allah is with the righteous." Quran 9:123

another translation replaces "adjacent" to "near to you"
and he didn't say what is the meaning of near to you
i'll tell you " it means near in area". Don't (O' Muhammad) start inviting to Islam who is far away from you while there is unbelievers around you.

and about the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) hadith " ....,i've been helped with horror (in the hearts of enemies),..... ". That is what Allah have told him in the Quran that Allah will cast horror in the hearts of the unbelievers.

" Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah ; and those with him are forceful against the disbelievers, merciful among themselves. You see them bowing and prostrating [in prayer], seeking bounty from Allah and [His] pleasure. Their mark is on their faces from the trace of prostration. That is their description in the Torah. And their description in the Gospel is as a plant which produces its offshoots and strengthens them so they grow firm and stand upon their stalks, delighting the sowers - so that Allah may enrage by them the disbelievers. Allah has promised those who believe and do righteous deeds among them forgiveness and a great reward. " Quran 48:29

that was at the time when there was a wars between unbelievers and Muslims, So Allah told them to be harsh and forceful on the unbelievers who fought you

Definition of atheist
" born christian, didn't believe in trinity, starts attacking Islam "

another definition
" Someone who don't know how the universe came and also attacking Islam"

one thing to know that 98% of people attacking Islam ( NEVER READ THE QURAN, NOR EVEN KNOW TWO VERSES )

i really love when people attacking Islam, Because that's how the truth is treated, People hate it.

" They intend to put out the Light of Allah (i.e. the religion of Islam, this Quran, and Prophet Muhammad SAW) with their mouths. But Allah will complete His Light even though the disbelievers hate (it). " Quran 61:8

Islam is the only religion that people accept it every day
So do whatya want, And let Islam Burn you.

All what i'm asking is to read and search for the truth. if you think your life is uselessly. So why don't you kill yourself ??????

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anyone interested in reading on the trinity is now going to have a lot of information when they scroll

Is the TRINITY DOCTRINE
Divinely Inspired ?
By : M. A. C. Cave
Notes from the Author:
(1) Quotations from the Bible are taken from the Revised Standard Version (RSV) copied from the original languages being the version set forth (King James Version) A.D.
1611, revised A.D. 1881 - 1885 and A.D. 1901, and revised A.D. 1946 - 1952, and second edition of the New Testament A.D. 1971, published by Wm. Collins Sons & Co., Ltd. for Canadian Bible Society. 1835 Yonge St., Toronto 7, Ontario, Canada. Other Versions are sufficiently indicated.
(2) The Qur'anic quotations are taken from "THE HOLY QURA'AN", by
ABDULLAH YUSUF ALI, (English Translation of the Meanings and Commentary, Revised & Edited by The Presidency of Islamic Researches, IFTA, Call and Guidance, King Fahad Holy Qur'an Printing Complex, Kingdom of Saudi Arabia).
(3) (Pbuh) is an abbreviation of "peace be upon him" which had been a usual salutation used by all the Prophets of Allah (God). It is therefore used as a salutation of respect to be accorded to every prophet when his name is mentioned similarly, (Pbut)
which means "peace be upon them" is also used when two or more names of prophets are mentioned.
The Gospel in (John 8:40) of the Bible, Jesus (Pbuh) says:
"But now you seek to kill me, a MAN
who has told you the truth, which
I have heard of God. "
Allah (God) says in (Surah "Al-'lmran", 3:59) of the Qur'an:
The similitude of Jesus before Allah
Is as that of Adam; He (God) created
Him (A dam) from dust, then said
to him: "Be", and he was.
The reality of the Oneness of God and the nature and role of Jesus (Pbuh), according to the Scriptures:
Scrapping the concept of God Incarnate and
the Trinity does not discredit Jesus but
places God in His elevated, unique, exalted
and unparalleled position as the only
true Deity worthy of worship.
Jesus Christ is not God but a great Prophet and Messenger of God!
Table Of Contents
Preface
Introduction
Special Media Reports from U.K.
The Christians
The Trinity Doctrine
How the Trinity Developed into a Christian Doctrine
Factors that Influenced the Trinity Doctrine
Justification of the Trinity Doctrine by the Trinitarians
The Trinity Doctrine was not Taught by the Early Christians
Does the Bible Teach the Trinity Doctrine?
- About the Hebrew Scripture
- About the Greek Scripture
Rejection of the Trinity Doctrine by Modern Christians
Teaching of the Prophets of God
What the Bible Says about God and Jesus (Pbuh)
1. Testimony of the Bible about God
2. Testimony of the Bible about Jesus (Pbuh)
3. What Jesus (Pbuh) Says about God and Himself
What the Qur'an Says about God
Biblical Evidence of the Trinity Doctrine
Additional Arguments Refuting the Trinity Doctrine
Does Jesus (Pbuh) endorse the Concept of the Holy Spirit
What the Qur'an is and what it Says about Jesus (Pbuh) and His Mother.,
Strange Story
Warning for those who Prevent the Message of God
Notes and Bibliography
Preface
This publication, "Is the TRINITY DOCTRINE Divinely Inspired?", should serve as food for thought to every right minded person and the followers of Modern Christianity. The concept of the Trinity has baffled every Christian denomination. Although Mr. M. A. C. Cave was a Christian who believed in the Trinity before, when he carried-out his research into the origin of this doctrine, he discovered to his utter amazement that it was a later development conceived and engineered by various Christian writers and thinkers.
Mr. M. A. C. Cave builds up evidence that the Trinity is nothing but a man- made doctrine that falls short of being a revelation from God. Subsequently, this tailor-made doctrine lost its angularity on account of built-in contradictions and proved thorny on the side of Christian hierarchy in general and the clergy in particular who are trying to prop it up.
It is unacceptable on the part of the right thinking person to hold to this dogma in-spite of all its flaws. Man being rational, he should be more critical of issues of spiritual aspect which are vital to his life. He should attempt to peep into others religious scriptures around for a convincing truth. And, he should not let himself be a victim of complacency and blind faith as in the past. Try to reflect on the verses of the Scriptures:
I appeal to the reader to examine this book with an unbiased mind and open heart to the truth because this is the only way that may lead to the right decision that shapes one's life in this world and the world to come.


Introduction

Nothing offends more the Christians than to cast doubt about the doctrine of the Trinity, the fountainhead of their faith. Since I grew up as a Christian, I know by heart that it will surely injures a devout follower of Christianity something he Knew as true. But to lend a
blind eye when I know better is far from righteousness since I am bound by the God's Commandments to guide those mislead by the false doctrine. It is a basic right of every individual to know the truth that will lead him to the right path.

It is an established fact, that man was created a rational being, hence, he possess the capacity of reason. Associated with it, man have always the inclination to seek for the truth. Therefore, as an individual, he is expected to reason out things objectively in all
his words and actions to reach his goal. Further, he is complimented with the freedom of choice to enable him to adjust in a civilized society. It is equally true that no one has the right to force him to accept even the truth. Nevertheless, it is a kind of arrogance and
obstinacy for a rational being to reject the truth. Men of principle does not only uphold the TRUTH, even a bitter truth, but also are ready to defend that truth under any circumstance up to the extent of sacrificing their own lives.

The Trinity is so deep-rooted among the Christians that seldom could one consider the implications of the 'three-in-one God. Although its origin is from the pagan belief majority of them never question the veracity of such doctrine being unaware that it is man-made and not of God breathed. The Trinity doctrine declares:

"The Father is God, the Son is God, the Holy Spirit is God and together, not exclusively, they from one God. The Trinity is co-eternal, without beginning or end, and co-equal. "(i)

Jesus (Pbuh), is considered by the Trinitarians as having two natures-human and divine. He is believed to be the Son of God and full God as being the second person of the Godhead of the Trinity doctrine.

However, in this book, readers will discover that some revealed truths have been deliberately perverted by the Christian thinkers, scribes, theologians, writers, evangelists and the churches in order to substantiate their claim of the Trinity doctrine as "divinely
inspired". Before long, Prophet Jeremiah (Pbuh) warned the people about the corruption made in the revelation by those who teach the religion of God. He says:

"How can you say, 'We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us'? But, behold, the false pen of the scribes has made it into a lie. "(Jeremiah 8:8, the Bible)

As regards to the false concept of worship, Prophet Jesus (Pbuh) repeated to us the warning given by Prophet Isaiah (Pbuh), but the people are indeed heedless. He says:

"This people honours me with their lips, but their heart is far from me; in vain do they worship me, teaching as doctrines the precepts of men. "(Matthew 15:8, the Bible).

My decision to embark on this venture sprang out of my quest for truth about the concept of the Trinity. The research was not only confined to the Scriptures, but also to treatise and articles of religious scholars. Some of their works proved sensational and
received approval from Christian denominations.

The research was undertaken with an open mind in view of my previous belief in the Trinity doctrine. In fact, the idea originated to look for tangible evidence to prove its authenticity, and not the way around, bearing in mind that it had its origin from God.
Further, in order to be objective I have used reference material that I could lay my hands on.

Indeed, it was a soul-searching effort on my part to weigh the evidences as they kept piling. Unfortunately, as the research progressed, the doctrine of the Trinity passed on to generations as the ultimate truth became moribund. Had the result been in its favor, it would have illuminated my heart. However, to my. dismay, I found it to be wrong. This man-made doctrine was coined by people to serve their selfish and vested interests.
Thus, all the previous claims turned out to be absolutely false. The Trinity doctrine is not only against the teachings of the prophets of God but also is an insult to human intellect because it is contrary to reason and nowhere to be found in the Bible.

Finally, the bitter truth is that it demolishes the Trinity and Incarnation doctrines together with all related beliefs. To worship God according to His revealed Guidance is to reject them downright.

Scrapping the concept of God Incarnate and the Trinity does not discredit Jesus but places God in His elevated, unique, exalted and unparalleled position as the only true Deity worthy of worship. Jesus Christ is not God but a great Prophet and Messenger of God!

I beckon 'one and all' to look for truth in my work which could open the hearts of those
longing for salvation.

"Our God! Through this piece of work we have striven to convey the correct meaning of Your Message to mankind. Our Lord shower Your blessings and guide them to the Truth. Wherever we have gone wrong, please forgive us and protect the
people from our shortcomings. "
Ameen

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Special Media Reports From U.K.

SHOCKS SURVEY OF ANGLICAN BISHOPS

Shock Waves rolled all over England and the Christian World when a report in the DAILY NEWS of the U.K. under the caption: "Shock Survey of Anglican Bishops, "reported that more than half of England's Anglican Bishops agrees that:
"Christians are not Obliged to Believe that Jesus Christ was God".
The poll conducted of 31 of England's 39 Bishops, deny Jesus' DIVINITY and RESURRECTION thus rending two of the most fundamental Christian doctrines completely void.
They attribute these age-old concepts to inaccuracies in the Bible. (2)

NOT GOD - BUT "GOD'S SUPREME AGENT"
The report further states that 19 of the 31 Bishops agree that: "It was Sufficient to
Regard Jesus as 'God's Supreme Agent". (3)
THUS, MORE THAN HALF OF ENGLAND'S ANGLICAN BISHOPS
ABSOLVED THEMSELVES FROM BLASHMEYAND REGARDED... JESUS
- AS ONLY A MESSENGER .

BISHOPS JENKINS SLAMS CHRISTIAN FUNDAMENTAL DOCTRINES

In an interview to London's Weekend Television religious programme "CREDO",
- the newly appointed Bishop of Durban - the Rev. Professor David Jenkins, who is the fourth high - ranking Bishop in the Church of England -
directed his attack at the shaky base on which the entire structure of Christianity stands.

The most fundamental Christian doctrines of Jesus' DIVINITY and RESURRECTION were slammed by the Bishop, expressing that the events in Jesus's early mission: "Were not Strictly True but were
Added to the Story of Jesus by the Early Christians to Express their Faith in Him as a Messiah". (4)

This concept about God and Jesus (Pbuh) is shared by all the apostles, early Christians, ancient and modern day Christian scholar, thinkers, writers and even the ordinary Christian.
Jesus (Pbuh) says in (Matthew 4:10, The Bible):
"... for it is written, "You shall worship the Lord your God and Him only shall you serve. "

In (John 17:3, Bible) he says:
"And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and I Jesus Christ/' whom thou hast sent. "

Again he says in (John 20:17, The Bible):
"... I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God. "

Are these statements not clear? Wherefrom Jesus (Pbuh) came to be accepted as God?

Now here comes, the Billion Dollar Question:
"Is The TRINITY DOCTRINE Divinely Inspired?"


The Christians

Close to a billion people around the world continue to believe and practice the doctrine of the Trinity while twofold of them, if not more, reject it outright on the ground that it is not biblical but also fallacious, baseless, senseless, repugnant and contrary to
reason.

According to Bamber Gascoigne, in his book "The Christians": For the first fifty years of what we now call the Christian Era, not a word survives in any document about Christ or his followers. During the next fifty years, the Christians themselves wrote down most of
the books that now make up the New Testament. But still not a word, with one small exception, from any outside writer. And then, in the second century, Roman authors began to comment: (5)

"There is a group, hated for their abominations, called Christians by the people. Christus, from whom the name comes, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of one of our officials, Pontius Pilate. " (Tacitus)

"The Christians are a class of men given to a new and wicked superstition."
(Suetonius)

"The poor wretches have convinced themselves that they are going to be immortal and live for all time, by worshiping the crucified sophist and living under his laws. Therefore, they despise the things of this world, and consider them common property.
They receive these doctrine by tradition, without any definite evidence. So if any charlatan or trickster comes among them, he quickly acquires wealth by imposing upon these simple folk. " (Lucian)

Nevertheless, Christianity flourished and became one big religion, but the teachings of Modern Christianity as we know it today, is different from what was taught by Jesus (Pbuh) to his disciples. The different doctrines of Christianity like the Trinity was a later development. Its inception began during the reign of Emperor Constantine the Great at (Nicaea) and later developed into a full blown dogma at the time of Emperor Theodosius in 381 C.E.
How strange!
Since then, Christianity has multiplied into many different sects and it is difficult now to recognize the true Christian faith. But whatever it is, in the present context, none is close to the original teachings of the prophets. They based their teachings on the Bible which is subject to continues revision.

God alone knows when Christians will be able to produce the correct (authentic) copy of their Scripture (Bible).

One wonders, at the number of versions of the Bible in circulation today. Each one is different from the other, yet, each claims to be the original version. They have acquired a taste to declare to the world that theirs is divinely inspired. Their ready reference is in (II
Timothy 3:1, The Bible), which says: "All scripture is inspired by God..."
But what the
Christians do not understand is that, "substantially, the contents of their Bibles are not Scriptures but only stories, accounts, events and traditions."
The problem become more complex when we come to know that some versions of the Bible contain more books than the others.
The Orthodox Version (OVC), contain 86 books;
the Charismatic Version (CV), contain 76 books;
the Roman Catholic Version (RCV),
contain 73 books and all the Protestant versions,
contain 66 books including the New World.

Translation of the Holy Scripture [1984] (NW), used by the Jehovah's Witnesses and
other versions like the King James [1611 - 1942] (KJ),
American Standard [1901 - 1944] (AS),
Revised Standard [1971] Second Edition (RS) Jerusalem Bible [1966] (JB),
Good News Bible - Today's English Version [1976] (TEV),
The Holy Bible (1954: as printed in 1956),
Ronald A. Knox (Kx),
New International Version (NIV), and countless other versions.

Moreover, how about the allegations of the distinguished Revisers of the Bible of the Revised Standard Version (RS), Revised Edition of 1952 and for the New Testament, Second Edition of 1971, by Wm. Collins Sons & Co. Ltd, published for Canadian Bible Society, which says in its Preface: (1)

"Yet the King James Version have grave defects these defects are so many and so serious as to call for revision of the English
translation. " (2)
"The king James Version of the New Testament was based upon a Greek text that was marred by mistakes"
How about the charges of the Jehovah's Witnesses in their Awake publication of September 1951 which states:
"The Bible has 50,000 error!"

And, how about if I say that contrary to our beliefs "none of the four Gospel writers were original disciples of Jesus (Pbuh)."
In (Luke 6:14-16 and Mark 3:17, The Bible), we find the names of the twelve disciples appointed by Jesus (Pbuh).
While the names of Matthew and John are included, the names of Mark, Luke and Paul are not mentioned.

However, from the following quotations, you will discover that the two Gospels attributed to Matthew and J ohn respectively, were written by third persons. Read the reproductions of the verse in (Matt. 9:9, The Bible):

"As Jesus passed on from there, he saw a man called Matthew sitting at the tax office and he said to him, 'Follow me. 'And he rose and followed him. "

And in (John 21:23, The Bible):

"This is the disciple who is bearing witness to these things, and who has written these things; and we know that his testimony is true. "

In the first instance, the writer merely narrated what had transpired between Jesus (Pbuh) and the man Matthew, while in the second instance, it is obvious that the pronoun "We" stands as the writer.

Let us now reflect on what the two Christian Scholars say about the making of the Bible:

"A copyist would sometimes put in not what was in the text, but what he taught out to be in it. He would trust a fickle memory, or he would make the text accord with the views of the School to which he belonged. In addition to the versions and quotations from the Christian Fathers, nearly four thousand Greek MSS (Manuscript) of the Testament, were known to exist. As a result the variety of reading is considerable. " (6)

"Thus Gospels were produced which clearly reflected the conception of the practical
needs of the community for which they were written. In them the traditional material was
used, but there was no hesitation in altering it or making additions to it, or in leaving out
what did not suit the writer's purpose. " (7)


The Trinity Doctrine

The Trinity doctrine is considered to be one God in three Persons. Each of them is said to be without beginning having existed for eternity. Each is aid to be Almighty, neither greater nor lesser than the others; each is said to e a complete God in every sense of the word which includes God's attributes and all are equal in time,
position, power and knowledge.
This doctrine forms the core and pillar of the Christian faith advocated by almost all the Christian denominations. However, the Trinity doctrine is not divinely inspired, but a man-made dogma coined by the Christians during the last
quarter of the 4th century.

In fact, it was the outcome of the Council of Constantinople in
381 C.E. which agreed to place the Holy Spirit in the same stature as God and Jesus Christ.

The Encyclopedia Britannic states that: The concept of the unity of essence (homoousia) of the divine Logos with God the Father ensured the complete divinity of Jesus Christ.
The mystery of the person of Jesus Christ could be grasped in the formula: two natures in one person Not being derived primarily from abstract teaching, it rather changes
within the liturgy in ever new forms and in countless hymns of worship - as in the words of the Easter liturgy:

"The king of the heavens appeared on earth out of kindness to man and it was with men that he associated. For he took his flesh from a pure virgin and he came forth from her, in that he accepted it. One is the Son, two-fold in essence, but not in person.
Therefore in announcing him as in truth perfect God and perfect man, we confess Christ our God." [i)

The Athanasian Creed states:

"There is one person of the Father, another of the Son, and another of the Holy Ghost.
But the Godhead of the Father, of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost, is all one; the Glory equal, the Majesty co-eternal...
The Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Ghost is
God. And yet there are not three Gods but one God...
For like as we are compelled by the Christian verity to acknowledge every person by himself to be God and Lord, so are we forbidden by the Catholic religion to say there be three Gods, or three Lords." (9)

The Orthodox definition of the Christian Trinity and Athanasian Creed: "The doctrine of
the Trinity states that the Father is God, the Son is God, the Holy Spirit is God and
together, not exclusively, they from one God. The Trinity is co-eternal, without
beginning or end, and co-equal." (i)

The Roman Catholic Church states: The Trinity is the term employed to signify the central doctrine of the Christian religion... While the Greek Orthodox Church, calls the Trinity,
"the fundamental doctrine of Christianity even saying: Christians are
those who accept Christ as God. "In the book "Our Orthodox Christian Faith", the same church declares:
"God is triune... The Father is totally God. The Son is totally God. The Holy Spirit is totally God. "


How The Trinity Developed Into
A Christian Doctrine

Persecution of the Christians and the suppression of the early Church under the Roman emperors which began in the first century, ended with the coming into power of Constantine the Great at the Milvian Bridge in 312 C.E.
Consequently, through conversion to Christianity special favors were offered to the people in the form of political, military and social gains. As a result, thousands of non-Christians joined the
Church and enabled Constantine to wield great power over the Church affairs.

It was during the reign of Constantine that the idea of Jesus Christ as co-equal to God, the Father began to gain momentum. Yet, Trinity was not an established doctrine at that time. The idea of a triune god stirred great controversy within the Church as still many clergy and laymen did not accept the position of Christ as God. (i 2)

This disagreement reached the level of confrontation between Bishop Alexander of Alexandria, Egypt and his presbyter Arius. Bishop Alexander taught that Jesus was equal to God but not Arius. So at a synod held at Alexandria in 321 C.E., Arius was deposed and excommunicated. (i 3)

Arius, tought in institutional disfavor, still had much support outside Egypt. Many of the important bishops, such as the learned historian Eusebius of Palestinian Caesarea and his powerful namesake, Eusebius, Bishop of Nicomedia, theologically agree with Arius:
Jesus Christ is not God. (i 4)

The sustained controversy disturbed Constantine and in order to legitimatize his position, he invited all bishops of the Christian Church to Nicaea (which is now in Asia Minor) in May 325 C.E. Thus, the Council of Nicaea began to settle the dispute concerning the relationship between God and His son. Constantine, who was in charge of the proceedings, exercised his political power to bring to bear the bishops to accept his theological position. The creed signed by 218 bishops was clearly anti-Arian.
In other words, the Creed of Nicaea endorsed the Son as co-equal to God. Two hundred eighteen of the bishops signed this creed, although it was actually the work of a minority. <i 5)

The Encyclopedia Britannica summarizes the proceedings of the Council of Niacea as
follows:

The Council of Niacea met on May 20, 325. Constantine himself presiding, actively guiding the discussion, and personally proposed (no doubt on Ossius' prompting) the crucial formula expressing the relation of Christ to God in the creed issued by the
council, "of one substance with the Father."
Over-awed by the emperor, the bishops, with two exceptions only, signed the creed, many of them against their inclination.

Constantine regarded the decision of Nicaea as divinely inspired. As long as he lived no one dared openly to challenge the Creed of Nicaea; but the expected concord did not follow. (16)

The Creed of Nicaea

We believe in one God the Father All-sovereign, maker to all things visible and invisible;
And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, begotten of the Father, only-begotten, that
is, of the substance of the Father, God of God, Light of Light, true God of true God,
begotten not made, of one substance with the Father, through whom all things were
made, things in heaven and things on the earth; who for us men and for our salvation
came down and was made flesh, and became man, suffered, and rose on the third day,
ascended into the heavens, is coming to judge living and dead.
And in the Holy Spirit,

And those that say 'There was when he was not,' and, 'Before he was begotten he was not,' and that, 'He came into being from what-is-not; or those that allege, that the son of God is 'Of another substance or essence'
Or 'created,'
Or, 'changeable'
Or 'alterable,'
These the Catholic and Apostolic Church anathematizes.

"The 'Nicaea' Creed"
Bettenson explains the Nicene Creed as follows:

[It was] found in Epiphanius, Ancoratus, 118, C.A.D. 374, and extracted by scholars, almost word for word, from the Catechetical Lectures of S. Cyril of Jerusalem; read and approved at Chalcedon, 451, as the creed of '(the 318 fathers who met at Nicaea and that of) the 150 who met at a later time' (i.e., at Constantinopolitan, 381). Hence often called the Constantinopolitan or Nicaeno-Constantinopolitan Creed, and thought by many to be a revision of the creed of Jerusalem held by Cyril.

We believe in one God the Father All-sovereign, maker of heaven and earth, and of all things visible and invisible;
And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only-begotten Son of God, Begotten of the Father before all ages, Light of Light, true God of true God, begotten not made, of one substance with the father, through whom all things were made;
who for us men and for our salvation came down from the heavens, and was made flesh of the Holy Spirit and the Virgin Mary, and became man, and was crucified for us under Pontius Pilate, and suffered and was buried, and rose again on the third day according to the Scriptures, and ascended into the heavens, and sitteth on the right hand of the Father,
and cometh again with glory to judge living and dead, of whose kingdom there shall be no end:

And in the Holy Spirit, the Lord and the Life-giver, that proceedeth from the Father, who with Father and Son is worshipped together and glorified together, who spake
through the prophets:
In one holy Catholic and Apostolic Church:
We acknowledge one baptism unto remission of sins. We look for a resurrection of the dead, and the life of the age to come. (i 7)

Though the Council of bishops accepted the Creed of Nicaea there was no mention of the Trinity.

The controversy over the nature of J esus continued for several decades. In the year 381 C.E. a second ecumenical council met in Constantinople. This council adopted the Nicene Creed stating that Jesus and God were co-equal, co-eternal and the deity of the Holy Spirit. The doctrine of the Trinity came to be formally established as the cornerstone of Christian faith for the next fifteen centuries.

Note: Like the "Lords Prayer" (Matt. 6:9-13, The Bilble), all Roman Catholics are required to memorize the "Nicene Creed" which they include in their prayers.

Emperor Theodosius made belief in Christianity a matter of imperial command:

"It is Our Will all the peoples We rule shall practise that religion which the divine Peter the Apostle transmitted to the Romans.

We shall believe in the single Deity of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, under the concept of equal majesty and of the Holy Trinity.

We command that those persons who follow this rule shall embrace the name of Catholic Christians. The rest, however, whom We adjudge demented and insane, shall sustain the infamy of heretical dogmas, their meeting place shall not receive the name of churches and they shall be smitten first by divine vengeance and secondly by the retribution of Our own initiative. We shall assume in accordance with divine judgment."

Subsequently, the doctrine of the veneration of Mary as the "mother of God" and "bearer of God" was also formulated at the Second Council of Constantinople (553 C.E.) and the title of "Eternal Virgin" was added.
"In the prayers and hymns of the Orthodox Church the name of the mother of God is invoked as often as in the name of Christ and the Holy Trinity"...
"In the Roman Catholic doctrine, Mary, the mother of God, was identified with the figure of the divine Wisdom. The process of deifying the mother of God went a step further here, in that Mary is treated like a divine hypostasis (substance), the figure of heavenly Wisdom." (20)


Factors That Influenced
The Trinity Doctrine

The factors that influenced the formulation of the Trinity Doctrine was summarized by the Watch tower and Bible Tract Society of Pennsylvania, 1989, in what may be regarded as precursor of the Trinity doctrine:

Throughout the ancient world, as far back as Babylonia, the worship of pagan gods grouped in triplets were common. This practice was also prevalent before, during and after Christ in Egypt, Greece and Rome.
After the death of the apostles, such pagan beliefs began to invade Christianity.

Historian Will Durant observed: "Christianity did not destroy paganism; it adopted it... From Egypt came the ideas of a divine trinity."
And in the book of Egyptian Religion, Siegfried Morenz notes:

The Trinity was a major preoccupation of Egyptian theologians... Three gods are combined and treated as single being, addressed in the singular. In this way the spiritual force of Egyptian religion shows direct link with Christian theology. "

Thus, in Alexandria, Egypt's churchmen of the late third and early fourth centuries, such as Athanasius, reflected this influence as they formulated ideas that led to Trinity.
Their own influence spread, so much that Morenz considers
Alexandria theology as the intermediary between the Egyptian religious heritage and Christianity. "

In the Encyclopaedia of Religion and Ethics, James Hasting wrote: "In Indian religion, e.g., we meet the Trinitarian group of Braham, Siva, and Visnu; in Egyptian religion, the Trinitarian group of Osiris, Isis, and Horus... Nor is it only in historical religions that we find God viewed as a Trinity. One recalls in particular the new-Platonic view of the Supreme or Ultimate Reality. "
Which is "triadically represented."

The New Schaff-Herzog Encyclopedia of Religious Knowledge shows the influence of this Greek philosophy:
"The doctrines of the Logos and the Trinity received their shape
from Greek Fathers, who... were much influenced, directly or indirectly, by the Platonic philosophy... That errors and corruptions crept into the Church from this source cannot be denied. "

The Church of the First Three Centuries says:
"The doctrine of the Trinity was of gradual and comparatively late formation; ... it had its origin in a source entirely foreign from that of the Jewish and Christian Scriptures;... it grew up, and was grafted in Christianity, through the hands of the Platonizing Fathers. " (21)

Sculptures of gods with three faces were found in several parts of the world (e.g., Kampuchea, [Triune Buddhist godhead, c. 12 th century C.E.];
Italy, [Trinity, c. 15 th century C.E.];.
Norway, [Trinity (Father, Son, Holy spirit), c. 13 th century C.E.];
France, [Trinity, c. 14 th century C.E.];
Germany, [Trinity, c. 19 th century C.E.];
India, [Triune Hindu godhead, c. 7 th century C.EI.];
S.Falmyra, (Triad of moon god, Lord of Heavens, sun god, c. 1st century C.E.];
Babylon, [Triad of , Ishtar, Sin Shamash, 2 nd millennium B.C.E.]
and Egypt, [Triad of Horus, Osiris, Isis, 2 nd millennium B.C.E.]). (22)


Justification Of The Trinity
By The Trinitarians

Giants of Christendom, in an attempt to rescue the Trinity, tried all available means to justify the doctrine. However, after exhausting all known logics and human reasons, failed miserably and declared it to be a "MYSTERY".
The following are some of statements given by head of the Churches, eminent Christian Theologians and known writers who came boldly to defend it with temerity:

"The most Holy Trinity is a mystery in the strictest sense of the word. For reason alone cannot prove the existence of a Truine God, Revelation teaches it.
And even after the existence of the mystery has been revealed to us, it remains impossible for the human intellect to grasp how the Three Persons have put one Divine Nature. "(23)

Catholic scholars karl Rahner and Herbert Vorgimler stated in their Theological Dictionary:
"The Trinity is a mystery . . . in the strict sense . . ., which could not be known without revelation, and even after revelation cannot become wholly intelligible. "

"A dogma so mysterious presupposes a Divine revelation."
(The Catholic Encyclopedia)

"God is one, and God is three. Since there is nothing like this in creation, we cannot understand it, but only accept it. "
(Monsignor Eugene Clark)

"We know that it is a very profound mystery, which we don't begin to
understand. "(Cardinal John O'Connor)

"The inscrutable mystery of God the Trinity. "
(Pope John Paul II) (24)


The Trinity Docrine Was Not
Taught By The Early Christians

The expression "God the Father", "God the Son" and "God the Holy Spirit" is not only synonymous to Christianity but the core of Christian belief.

However, this belief considered as the fountainhead of the Christian religion was not known or advocated by Jesus (Pbuh) or the early Christians. The Apostolic Fathers and those of the succeeding generations up to the last quarter of the 4 th century C.E. never
have thought of a triune God.
They believed in One Omnificent, Omnipotent, Omniscient
and Transcendent Creator Who alone is to be worshiped.

The following authentic reports taken from different Christian authorities speak for themselves:

"The formulation 'one God in three Persons' was not solidly established into Christian life and its profession of faith, prior to the end of the 4th century. But it is precisely this formulation that has first claim to the title the Trinitarian dogma.
Among the Apostolic Fathers there had been nothing even remotely approaching such a mentality or perspective. "(25)

The doctrine of the Trinity was coined by the Christians about three hundred years after Jesus. The four Canonical Gospels, written between 70 and 115 C.E., contain no reference to the Trinity. Even St. Paul, who imported many foreign ideas into Christianity, knew nothing of the Triune God. The New Catholic Encyclopaedia 4(bearing the Nhil Obstat and Imprimature, indicating official approval) admits that the doctrine of the Trinity was unknown to the early Christians and that it was formulated in the last quarter
of the 4 th century:

" If is difficult, in the second half of the 20th century to offer a clear, objective, and straightforward account of the revelation, doctrinal evaluation, and theological elaboration of the mystery of the Trinity. Trinitarian discussion, Roman Catholic as well as other, presents a somewhat unsteady silhouette.

Two things have happened. There is the recognition on the part exegetes and Biblical theologians, including a constantly growing number of Roman Catholics,
that one should not speak of Trinitarianism in the New Testament without serious qualification. There is also the closely parallel recognition on the part of historians of dogma and systematic theologians that when one does speak of an unqualified
Trinitarianism, one has moved from the period of Christian origins to, say, the last quadrant of the 4th century.
It was only then that what might be called the definitive Trinitarian dogma 'one Cod in three persons' became thoroughly assimilated into Christian life and thought.

"At first the Christian faith was not Trinitarian . . . It was not so in the apostolic and sub-apostolic ages, as reflected in the (New Testament) and other early Christian writings. "(Encyclopaedia of Religion and Ethics)

"The early Christians, however, did not at first think of applying the (Trinity) idea to their own faith. They paid their devotions to God the Father and to Jesus Christ, the Son of God, and they recognized the Holy Spirit; but there was no thought of these three being an actual Trinity, co-equal and united in One. "
(The Paganism in Our Christianity) (27)


Does The Bible Teach
The Trinity Doctrine?

While the Bible is preached and believed as the Word of God, it does not contain the celebrated doctrine of the Trinity . If this Trinity doctrine were true, it should be clearly presented in the Bible because we need to know God and the way to worship Him.

Not anyone among the prophets of God from Adam down to Jesus (Pbut), had the concept of the Trinity or a Triune God. No one of the messengers of God spoke any veiled statement to that effect or is there any reference either in the Old or New Testaments of the Bible confirming of such doctrine.
It is, therefore, strange that neither
Jesus (Pbuh) nor his disciples speak about the Trinity in the Bible. On the contrary, Jesus (pbuh) says: "The Lord our God, the Lord is one. . . " (Mark 12:29, The Bible).
And according to St. Paul: "Men of Israel, hear these words: J esus of Nazareth, a man attested to you by God with mighty works and wonders and signs which God did through him in your midst, as you yourselves know. "(Acts 2:22, The Bible)

The above verses speak for themselves. Why should one bother over a doctrine full of confusion when Christian scholars of the highest eminence are unable to interpret or explain it intelligibly?

Jesus (Pbuh) has rightfully prophesied this kind of problem in (Matthew 15:8-9, The Bible) -.
"This people honours me with their lips, but their heart is far from me; in vain do they worship me, teaching as doctrines the precepts of men. "

In addition, it was followed by St. Paul in (2 Timothy 4:3-4, The Bible):
"For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own likings, and will turn away
from listening to the truth and wander into myths."

Further we also read in (Titus 2:26, The Bible): "They profess to know God, but they deny him by their deeds; they are detestable, disobedient, unfit for any good deed. "

In the midst of this dilemma, great minds among the Christians exhausted all known logic to lend credence to the doctrine of Trinity but failed miserably and subsequently declared it to be a mystery. However, the worship of Almighty God cannot be compromised.
He wants man to worship Him alone according to His Divine Guidance. Being Himself just,
it follows that His justice demands that His Message must be clear and simple in form. Its teachings, as a whole, must be devoid of any flaw, superstition and confusion. It must be an absolute truth that can always withstand the challenge of any kind of knowledge including human discoveries in the field of science.
Since the Trinity doctrine is a "mystery" by itself, as such, it cannot be regarded as divinely breathed.
The Bible says:
"For God is not a God Of confusion but of peace. "
(1 Corinthians 14:33, The Bible)

About the Hebrew Scripture

The Encyclopedia of Religion admits:

"Theologians today are in agreement that the Hebrew Bible does not contain a doctrine of the Trinity".
And the New Catholic Encyclopedia also says:
"The doctrine of the Holy Trinity is not taught in the Old Testament. "

Similarly, in his book The Triune God, Jesuit Edmund Fortman admits: "The Old Testament...
tells us nothing explicitly or by necessary implication of a Triune God who is Father, Son and Holy Spirit...
There is no evidence that any sacred writer ever suspected the existence of a (Trinity) within the Godhead...
Even to see in (the "Old Testament") suggestions or foreshadowings or 'veiled signs' of the trinity of persons, is to go beyond the words and intent of the sacred writers. "(28)

About the Greek Scripture

The Encyclopedia of Religion says: "Theologians agree that the New Testament
also does not contain" an explicit doctrine of the Trinity.

Jesuit Forman states: "The New Testament writers...
give us no formal or formulated doctrine of the Trinity, no explicit teaching that in one God there are three co-equal divine persons...
Nowhere do we find any trinitarian doctrine of three distinct subjects of divine life and activity in the same Godhead. "

The New International Dictionary of New Testament Theology similarly states: "The (New Testament) does not contain the developed doctrine of the Trinity.
'The Bible lacks the expressed declaration that the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit are of equal essence.' [said Protestant theologian Karl Barth' "

"Historian Arthur Weigall Notes: "J esus Christ never mentioned such a phenomenon, and nowhere in the New Testament does the word 'Trinity' appear.
The idea was only adopted by the Church three hundred years after the death of our Lord. "
"Paganism in Our Christianity" (29)


Rejection Of The Trinity Doctrine
By Modern Christians

Many Modern Christian Theologians to toe the line of the established of the Churches.
The latest and most prominent of them is the new Bishop of Durban, Bishop David Jenkins, Professor of Theology and Religious Studies at Leeds University, says that some of the events in Jesus' early mission:
"WERE NOT STRICTLY TRUE BUT WERE
ADDED TO THE STORY OF JESUS BY THE EARLY CHRISTIANS TO EXPRESS THEIR FAITH IN HIM AS A MESSIAH."

Prof. John Hick says: "What the orthodoxy developed as the two natures of Jesus, divine and human co-inhering in the one historical Jesus Christ remains a form of words without assignable meanings."
He further says: "For to say, without explanation, that the
historical Jesus of Nazareth was also God is as devoid of meaning as to say that this circle drawn with a pencil on paper is also a square. Such a locution has to be given semantic content: and in the case of the language of incarnation every content thus far
suggested has had to be repudiated."
He went on to suggest that the divine incarnation is a mythological idea. Again he said: "/ am using the term 'myth' in the following
sense, "a myth is a story which is told but which is not literally true, or an idea or image which is applied to someone or something but which does not literally apply."

"That Jesus was God the Son incarnate is not literally true, since it has no literal meaning, but it is an application to Jesus of a mythical concept whose function is analogous to that of the notion of divine sonship ascribed in ancient world to a king. " (3 i)

The words of Victor Paul Wierwille in his book: "J esus Christ is not God": "I am saying that Jesus Christ is not God, but the Son of God. They are not "co-eternal, without beginning or end, and co-equal. " Jesus Christ was not literally with God in the beginning; neither does he have all the assets of God. "(32)

Victor Paul Wierwille's empathic comment: "Before closing, let me bare my soul. To say that Jesus Christ is not God does not in my mind degrade the importance and significance of Jesus Christ in any way. It simply elevates God, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, to His unique, exalted and unparalleled position. He alone is
God." [33]

The numerous categorical statements of Jesus and those of the previous prophets of God (Pbut), found in the Bible nullify both the concepts of the "GOD INCARNATE" and the "TRINITY DOCTRINE".

Whatever is contrary to my statements is nothing but hearsay
made by individuals who need to substantiate their claims.

The evidence they have on hand are at best interpolations that have crept into the original Gospel of Jesus (pbuh) and earlier messages of God.
"Jesus (Pbuh) is not God but only a great prophet and messenger of God,"


Teaching Of The Prophets Of God

Strangely, none of the prophets before or after Jesus (Pbuh) taught the doctrine of the Trinity.
Rather, they proclaimed the Oneness of God. God alone is transcendent. He is the Almighty and Creator of everything seen and unseen and has no sharer, partner or associate, family, offspring or helper in His Godhead.
He alone is the Cherisher and the Sustainer of the entire creation. The following constitute the teachings of the prophets of God:

Prophet Moses (pbuh) says: "Now I know that the LORD is greater than all gods, because he delivered the people from under the hands of the Egyptians..."
(Exodus 18:11, The Bible)

"The LORD our God, is one LORD, and you shall love the LORD your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might."
And these words which I command you this day shall be upon your hearts; and shall teach them diligently to your children, and shall talk of them when you sit in your house, and when you walk by the
way, and when you lie down, and when you rise. And you shall bind them as a sign upon your hand, and they shall be as frontlets between your eyes. And you shall write them on the doorposts of your house and on your gates.
(Deut. 6:4-9, The Bible)

"Take heed to yourselves, lest you forget the covenant of the LORD your God, which he made with you, and make a graven image in the form of anything which the Lord your God has forbidden you. For the Lord your God is a devouring fire, a jealous God. "
(Deut. 45:23, The Bible)

The same concept of God is corroborated by Jesus (Pbuh).
(Mark 12:29, The Bible)

The Lord our God, is one LORD..."
Both prophets (All the prophets peace be upon them) emphatically stressed the point that their LORD and our LORD is One God.
It is also noteworthy, that there is nothing in their statements which indicate that either of them shared the Godhead."

"There is none holy like the LORD, there is none besides thee; there is no rock like Our God. "(1 Samuel 2:2, The Bible)

Prophet David (Pbuh) says in Psalms of the Bible:
"'Let them know that thou alone, whose name is the LORD, art the Most High over all the earth. " (Verse 83:18)
"Bless the LORD, O my soul! O LORD my God, thou art very great!" (Verse 104:1);
"He is the LORD our God." (Verse 105:7);
"The LORD is God and He has given light" (verse 118:27);
"Thou art my God, and I will give thanks to thee. "(Verse 118:28);

Prophet Solomon (Pbuh) says: "The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom and the knowledge of the Holy One is insight. "
(Proverbs 9:10, The Bible)

The following words were commonly attributed to Prophet Solomon (Pbuh): "Fear God, and keep His commandments; for this is the whole duty of man."
(Ecclesiastes 12:13, The Bible)

Prophet Isaiah (Pbuh) says:
"The LORD is the Everlasting God, the Creator of the ends Of the earth..."
(Isaiah 40:28, The Bible)

Definitely, only the Creator is God, Who created everything (the whole universe and its contents) thousands of years ago before the advent of Jesus (Pbuh). Jesus himself was created by God and so the Holy Spirit. In fact, there was no Trinity until it was formulated
by men in the third century C.E.

"... You shall worship the Lord your God and Him only shall you serve." Jesus (Pbuh) asserted that no one is worthy to be worshiped except God alone.
(Matthew 4:10 and Luke 4:8, The Bible)

Prophet Jesus (Pbuh) says: "And this is eternal life, that they know Thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom Thou has sent. "
(John 17:3, The Bible)

The above statements of Jesus (Pbuh) prove that there is only one Divine person "Thee only true God" and that he knew nothing of the Trinity.
Besides, Jesus (Pbuh) laid no claim to Godhood, for he referred to a Being "Thee" as the only true God and himself only a messenger of God, i.e., "Jesus Christ whom Thou has sent".

St. Paul was aware about the existence of the Trinity. He says: "Men of Israel, hear these words: Jesus of Nazareth, a man attested to you by God with mighty works and wonders and signs which God did through him in your midst..."
(Acts 2:22, The Bible)

"For although there may be so-called gods in heaven, or on earth - as indeed there are many "gods" and many "lords" - yet for us there is one God, the Father, from whom are all things and for whom we exist... "
(l Corinthians 8:5-6, The Bible)

Say ye: "We believe in Allah, and the revelation given to us, and to Abraham,
Ismail, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes,
and that given to Moses and Jesus,
and that given to (all) Prophets from their Lord:
we make no difference between one and another Of them:
and we submit to Allah. "
(Al-Baqarah, 2:136, the Qura'n)

We sent Noah to his people. He said: "O my people! Worship Allah! Ye have no other god but Him. I fear for you the Punishment of a dreadful Day!"
(Al-'Araf, 7:59, The Qur'an)

And Abraham enjoined upon his sons and so did Jacob:
"O my sons! Allah hath chosen the Faith for you; then die not except in the state of submission (to Allah).
(Al-Baqarah, 2:132, The Qur'an)

Abraham was not a J ew nor yet a Christian; but he was Upright, and bowed his will to Allah's Will (which is Islam). And he joined not gods with Allah.
(Al-rmran, 3:67, The Qur'an)

Were ye witnesses when Death appeared before J a cob? Behold, he said to his sons; "What will ye worship after me?"
They said: "We shall worship thy God and the God of thy fathers, of Abraham, Ismail and Isaac,
The One (True) God; to Him do we Submit. "
(Al-Baqarah, 2:133, The Qura'n)

To the 'Ad people, (We sent) Hud , one of their (own) brethren: He said: "O my
people! Worship Allah!"
(Al-A'raf, 7:65, The Qur'an)

To the Thamud people (We sent) Salih , one of their own brethren: He said: "O my
people! Worship Allah; ye have no other god but Him. . . "
(Al-A'raf, 7:73, The Qur'an)

To the Madyan people We sent Shu'ab , of the own brethren: he said: "O my
people! Worship Allah; ye have no other god but Him... "
(Al-A'raf, 7:85, The Qur'an)

Aaron had already, before this said to them: "0 my people! Ye are being tested in this: For verily your Lord is (Allah) Most Gracious: so follow me and obey my command. "
(Ta-Ha, 20:90, The Qur'an)

And (remember) I ob , when he cried to his Lord: "Truly distress has seized me,
but Thou art the Most Merciful of those that are Merciful." (Al-Anbiyaa, 21:83, The Qur'an)

We gave knowledge to David and Solomon : and they both said: "Praise be to Allah, Who has favoured us above many of His servants who believe!"
(An-Naml, 27:15, The Qur'an)

And to Solomon was David's heir. He said: "O ye people! We have been taught the speech of Birds, and we have been given of everything this indeed Grace manifest (from Allah)."
(An-Naml, 27:16, The Qur'an)

And (remember) Zachariah, When he cried to his Lord: "O my Lord! Leave me not without offspring, though Thou art the best of inheritors.
So We listened to him; And We granted him Yehya (John):
We cured his wife's (barrenness) for him... "
(Al-Anbiyaa, 21:89-90, The Qur'an)

Prophet Jesus (Pbuh) says:
"It is Allah Who is my Lord and your Lord: then worship Him.
This is a Way that is Straight. "
(Al-'lmran, 3:51, The Qur'an)

When Prophet Muhammad (Pbuh) was asked by someone what act he should do to enter Paradise, he says:
"You should worship Allah, associating nothing with Him..."
(al-Bukhari - Sayings of Prophet Muhammad [Pbuh])

Prophet Muhammad (Pbuh), says: "If anyone testifies that none has the right to be worshiped but Allah, the Alone, Who has no partners that Muhammad is His Messenger and J esus is Allah's Messenger and His Word which He bestowed on Mary and a Soul from Him and that the Paradise is true and the Hell is true,
Allah will admit him into Paradise with the deeds which he has done even if those deeds were few. "
(Al-Bukhari - Sayings of Prophet Muhammad [Pbuh])

In another authentic Hadith of Prophet Muhammad (Pbuh), he says: "He who dies knowing there is no god but Allah, enters Paradise."
(Al-Bukhari - sayings of Prophet Muhammad [Pbuh])

Ibn 'Abbas reported that Prophet Muhammad (Pbuh) said: "I want to teach you something. Obey Allah, and He will look after you. Safeguard His commandments, and He will ever be with you (as your protector).
When you must ask, ask Allah alone; when you must seek help, seek help from Allah alone. Remember, if all of mankind joined to help you, they could only help you to the extend that Allah has
already decreed;
and if all of mankind joined to harm you, they could not harm you
except to the extent that Allah has already decreed for you."
(Tirmidhi - sayings of Prophet Muhammad [Pbuh])

In another sayings of Prophet Muhammad (Pbuh): "Allah will not punish people for their sins except in the case of one who is disobedient, defiant, and rebellious against Allah and who refuses to believe that there is no God but Allah. "
(Sayings of Prophet Muhammad [Pbuh]) (34)

"Jesus was not a Christian; he was a Jew. He did not preach a new faith, but taught men to do the will of God; and in his opinion, as also in that of the Jews, the will of God was to found in the Law and in the other books of scripture." (35)


What The Bible Says About God
And Jesus (Pbuh)

The following passages from the Bible projects the true nature of God and Jesus (Pbuh).
It is clear now that God alone is the Supreme, the Ruler, the Infallible --and the Transcendent.
Jesus (Pbuh), a finite BEING, SUFFERS FROM WANTS AND IS SUBJECT OF God's Will.
All his statements and actions clearly indicate his subordination to God.

1, Testimony of the Bible about God
The teaching of the Old and the New Testaments are essentially Monotheistic and that the New Testament is not a swing from One to Three-in-one God.
Jesus affirmed this teaching when he said:
"Think not that I have come to abolish the law and the prophets;
I have come not to abolish them but to fulfill them. For truly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the law until all is accomplished. "
(Matt. 5:17-18, The Bible)

God's statements are simple, clear and free from contradiction and confusion. Here are some of the "inspired words" of God in the Bible. Thus, God says:
"I am God Almighty. "(Genesis 17:1, The Bible)

"Who is like thee, O LORD, among the gods? Who is like thee, majestic in holiness, terrible in glorious deeds, doing w orders?"
(Exodus 15:11, The Bible)

"I am the LORD your God. "
(Exodus 20:2, The Bible)

"You shall have no other gods before Me. You shall not make for yourself a graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them or serve them; for I the LORD your God am a jealous God... "
(Exodus 20:3-5, The Bible)

These verses categorically prohibits all kinds of images of God, both naturalistic or representational art. No image can be adequate of God than Himself. He, being transcendent cannot be portrayed by man except by what He revealed of Himself as His Divine Attributes conveyed through prophets.

"...I am the LORD your God. Do not turn to idols or make for yourselves molten gods. I am the LORD your God. "
(Leviticus 19:3- 4, The Bible)

"God is not man, that he should lie, or a son of man that he should repent."
(Numbers 23:19, The Bible)

"To you it was shown, that you might know that the LORD is God; there is no Other besides him. "
(Deut, 4:35, The Bible)

"Here, O Israel: The LORD our God is one Lord. "
(Deut. 6:4, The Bible)

"See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god besides me. " (Deut. 32:39, The Bible)

"There is none holy like the LORD, there is none besides thee; there is no rock like Our God. "
(1 Samuel 2:2, The Bible)

"Solomon says: "O LORD, God of Israel, there is no God like thee, in heaven above or on earth beneath... "
(l Kings 8:22, The Bible)

"For thou art great and doest wondrous things, thou alone art God. "
(Psalms 86:10, The Bible)

"Have you not known? Have you not heard? The LORD is the everlasting God, the Creator of the ends of the earth, He does not faint or grow weary, his understanding is unsearchable."
(Isaiah 40:28, The Bible)

"I am the LORD, that is my name; my glory I give to no other, nor my praise to graven images."
(Isaiah 42:8, The Bible)

"You are my witnesses," says the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen, that you may know and believe me and understand that I am He.
Before me no god was formed, nor shall there by any after me.
I, I am the Lord and besides me there is no saviour. "
(Isaiah 43:10-11, The Bible)

"I am the first and I am the last; besides me there is no god. "
(Isaiah 44:6, The Bible)

"I am the LORD, and there is no other, besides me there is no God... that men may know, from the rising of the sun and from the west, that there is none besides me;
I am the LORD, and there is no other"
(Isaiah 45:5 and 6, The Bible)

"For thus says the LORD, who created the heavens (he is God!), who formed the earth and made it (he established it; he did not create it a chaos, he formed it to be inhabited):
"I am the LORD, and there is no other. "
(Isaiah 45:18, The Bible)

"Remember the former things of old, for I am God, and there is no other; I am God, and there is none like me. "(Isaiah 46:9, The Bible)

". . / am He, I am the first, and I am the last. My hand laid the foundation of the earth, and my right hand spread out the heavens..."
(Isaiah 48:12, The Bible)

Thus says the LORD:
"Heaven is my throne and the earth is my footstool."
(Isaiah 66:1, The Bible)

"But the LORD is the true God; he is the living God and the everlasting King...
Thus shall you say them:
'The gods who did not make the heavens and the earth shall perish from the earth and from under the heavens."
(Jeremiah 10:10-11, The Bible)

"I am the LORD your God"
(Hosea 13:4, The Bible)

2. Testimony of the Bible about Jesus (Pbuh)
The birth of Jesus (Pbuh) was foretold: "In the sixth month, the angel Gabriel was sent from God to a city of Galilee named Nazareth, to a virgin betrothed to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David, and the virgin's name was Mary."
(Luke 1:26-27, The Bible)
Here, God did not step down to become flesh as claimed by the churches, instead He sent His angel Gabriel to inform Mary about the God's Plan. J esus (Pbuh) was a spirit created in the womb of Mary by God's power.
Hence, it negates the doctrine of God incarnate, and thus renders the claim as baseless.

Angel Gabriel informed Mary: "And behold you will conceive in your womb and bear a son, and you shall call his name Jesus."
(Luke 1:31, The Bible)

So, who were the members of the Trinity (i.e., Three-in-One Godhead) before the birth of Jesus (Pbuh)?
There has been only One True God in the beginning,
Who lives forever. The Trinity was a switch from the belief of One God (Monotheism) to three Gods (polytheism and paganism).
Before Jesus (Pbuh), people believed in only One God, but after his birth, the churches added two more persons in the Godhead.

Secondly, when Jesus (Pbuh) was a fetus, was the Almighty God also infused? Since the Trinitarians claim that the two or the three Persons being united in ONE BODY.

Did all of them grew up as one fetus in the Mary's womb? If so, why did she deliver Jesus alone? How childish and how nauseous to think of Jesus (Pbuh) united in body with God?

God, Who has no beginning and no end created the heavens and the earth, and everything in between them millions of years ago, much before the advent of human civilization. Many a generations have passed away before the birth of Jesus (Pbuh).

"And at the end of eight days, when he was circumcised, he was called Jesus ..."
(Luke 2:21, The Bible)
What a blasphemy against God! If Jesus (Pbuh) is the true God, do you believe that he needs to be circumcised?

"And the child grew and became strong, filled with wisdom; and the favour of God was upon him."
(Luke 2:40, The Bible)
At first, this "god" Jesus was not knowledgeable when young but acquired wisdom when he reached adolescence.
True God's wisdom neither increases or decreases nor is He subject of time and space because He is all the time perfect and absolute.

When Jesus (Pbuh) prayed "The Lord's Prayer"
(Luke 11:2- 4, The Bible)
Does one pray's to ones own soul? Certainly Not!
Hence this distinguishes the true God from Prophet Jesus (Pbuh).
In addition, Jesus' will is separate from that of God's Will, which indicates that they are not one and co-equal.

It is mentioned that Prophet Jesus fasted: "And he fasted forty days and forty nights, and afterward he was hungry..."
(Matt. 4:2, The Bible)
Fasting is one way of atoning one's sin and showing obedience and subservience to a superior. God is neither subservient to anyone nor need to fast to atone for His sins, not even to suffer wants, rather, unlike Jesus (Pbuh) God is free from anything because He alone is Supreme and Perfect.

A big gathering of people came to listen to J esus (Pbuh) and brought many sick persons who were healed of their infirmities. (Matt.l5:31, The Bible)
"And so, they glorified the God of Israel."
How come that the God of the Christians are THREE while the God of Israel is ONE?

"And going a little further he fell on his face and prayed, 'Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me; nevertheless, not as I will, but as thou wilt. "
(Matt. 26:29 and Mark 14:35- 36, the Bible).
To whom did Jesus (Pbuh) address his prayer?
Was it to himself being a part of the Godhead? Definitely not!
In fact, Jesus (Pbuh) always prayed to God for help even when he raised up Lazarus to life.
(John 11:41-43, The Bible)
Jesus (Pbuh) had always been thankful to God which indicates his total helplessness and subservience to God.

"In the morning, as he was returning to the city, he was hungry. And seeing a fig tree by the wayside he went to it, and found nothing on it but leaves only."
(Matt.21:18-19, The Bible)
A god to feel hungry and ignorant of the seasons of tree
bearing fruit!

St. Paul says: "Men of Israel, hear these words: J esus of Nazareth, a man attested to you by God with mighty works and wonders and signs which God did through him in your midst..."
(Acts 2:2, The Bible)
Here, it is clear what Paul meant by the words
"attested to by God" - is "anointed by God" or "Chosen by God -
as prophet".


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It has been, as our ancestors used to say, many moons since last I graced you with one of my glorious animadversions about Konr's raving intimations. With this letter I intend to propitiate my regular readers with a look at Konr's desire to make serious dialogue difficult or impossible. My hope is that the following text will delight the critical and offer food for thought to those contemplating his lascivious bruta fulmina. This is clear to every knowledgeable observer. Even more remarkable, I often see lackluster rattlebrains quashing other people's opinions. Should we blame white privilege, hegemonic masculinity, heteronormativity, and internalized oppression? No, we should blame Konr because Konr fervently believes that he is a master of precognition, psychokinesis, remote viewing, and other undeveloped human capabilities. This shows that he is not merely mistaken about one little fact among millions of facts but that Konr's flacks assert that all it takes to solve our social woes are shotgun marriages, heavy-handed divorce laws, and a return to some mythical 1950s Shangri-la. Sorry, guys, but the inconvenient truth is that Konr's delitescent goal is to conceal information and, occasionally, blatantly lie. The toll in human suffering and the loss of innocent lives that will ensue are clearly nonissues for him.

That's just one side of the coin. The other side is that Konr sells the supposed merits of miserabilism on the basis of rhetoric, not evidence. The evidence, however belated, is now in, and the evidence says that I realize that the tone of this letter may be making some people feel uneasy. However, even if you're somewhat uncomfortable reading about Konr's perverted slogans, please don't blame me for them. I'm not the one heralding the death of intelligent discourse on college campuses. I'm not the one concocting labels for people, objects, and behaviors in order to manipulate the public's opinion of them. And I'm not the one encumbering the religious idea with too many things of a purely earthly nature and thus bringing religion into a totally unnecessary conflict with science. Konr's support for freedom of speech extends only to those who agree with him. That is, he believes in “free speech for me but not for thee”. I guess that's not too surprising when one considers that Konr is an opportunist. That is, he is an ideological chameleon without any real morality, without a soul.
PS I used Scott Pakin's Complaint Generator
Konr has said that his activities can give us deeper insights into the nature of reality. Furthermore, the language Konr used to say that demonstrates sectarianism and maybe the onset of early senility. However abominable his campaigns are, they pale compared to the model set by his writing style. Here's a typical sentence: “Man's eternal search for Truth is a challenge to be avoided at all costs.” That swill clearly demonstrates how the last time I heard Konr ramble on in his characteristically bibulous blather he said something about wanting to shrink the so-called marketplace of ideas down to convenience-store size. I feel sorry for the human race when I hear stuff like that. If you want a better opportunity to get a job, raise a family in a safe neighborhood, have a better chance at a good education, and lower the taxes on the money you earn, then I ask that you help me grant people the freedom to pursue any endeavor they deem fitting to their skills, talent, and interest. He uses the word “saccharogalactorrhea” without ever having taken the time to look it up in the dictionary. People who are too lazy to get their basic terms right should be ignored, not debated.

In whatever form it takes—magazines, music, propaganda, or any other form—Konr's rhetoric is designed to draw unsuspecting schlubs into the orbit of predaceous widdifuls. As I have said many times in the past, Konr plans to violate international laws. The result will be an amalgam of spiteful racialism and stingy revisionism, if such a monster can be imagined. He's a crabby liar. Let's list some of his more louche lies: First, Konr believes that he is forward-looking, open-minded, and creative. Second, he thinks that his scare tactics enhance performance standards, productivity, and competitiveness. And third, he wants us to believe that the rules don't apply to him. I presented that list to get you to see that I want you to know that I have a very bad feeling in the pit of my stomach that Konr will shove the nation towards ageism by the next full moon. Knowing, as they say, is half the battle. What remains is to hunt down not only the perpetrators of isolationism but also all of the proponents of that raffish, reprehensible philosophy.

It's somewhat tricky to give you some background information about Konr, especially since the media in this country tend to ignore historical connections and are reluctant to analyze ideological positions or treat a fringe political group seriously. He maintains that students should be molded into “change agents” to promote his cacodemonic agenda. That's not just a lie but is actually the exact opposite of the truth—and Konr knows it. Why is Konr deliberately turning the truth on its head like that? Konr doesn't want you to know the answer to that question; he wants to ensure you don't pursue virtue and knowledge.

Konr rarely tells his apocrisiaries that he plans to foment a radical realignment of industrialized economies. Get that straight, please. Any other thinking is blame-shoving or responsibility-dodging. Furthermore, Konr promises his janissaries that as soon as he's finished enslaving us, suppressing our freedom, regimenting our lives, confiscating our property, and dictating our values, they'll all become rich beyond their wildest dreams. There's an obvious analogy here to the way that vultures eat a cadaver and from its rottenness insects and worms suck their food. The point is that Konr insists that the more paperasserie and bureaucracy we have to endure, the better. I proclaim that this allegation does not withstand scrutiny, in part because Konr wants to lock people who need our help into a vicious cycle of indigence and ignorance. Alas, that's a mere ripple on the soporific ocean of anti-intellectualism in which Konr will drown any attempt to take stock of what we know, identify areas for further research, and provide a useful starting point for debate on his sniffish treacheries.

I insist it can safely be said that Konr alleges that he has the linguistic prowess to produce a masterwork of meritorious literature. Naturally, this is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing. While he has been casting aspersions and heaping maledictions upon those who love the Earth and everything that flowers and crawls upon it, I have been busy making a genuine contribution to human society. The tone of his dissertations is so far removed from reality I find myself questioning what color the sky must be in his world. For years I've been warning people that Konr plans to make the pot of credentialism overboil and scald the whole world. However, that's not my entire message; it's only a part of it. I also want you to know that it wasn't so long ago that people like you and me were free to go placidly amid the noise and haste. Recently, that's become a lot harder to do. What happened that changed things so much? To put it briefly, Konr happened. By tearing down all theoretical frameworks for addressing the issue, Konr has managed to gum up what were once great ideas.

In a tacit concession of defeat, Konr is now openly calling for the abridgment of various freedoms to accomplish coercively what his sniveling, unpleasant philippics have failed at. I recently heard a few of his companions actually admit that the plethora of obfuscating, multisyllabic phrases in Konr's publications serves only to accentuate the obscurity of his prose. In response to such admissions Konr began a campaign of retribution against many of his gang for their refusal to stay on message and support Konr's central mission, namely to vilify our history, character, values, and traditions. Harsh retribution will indisputably make his mercenaries think twice before acknowledging that if you're the type who dares to think for yourself then you've probably already determined that Konr believes that his god is more caring and compassionate than your god, and to prove it, his god wants him to kill people and blow people up and attack governments. Yeah, that makes sense. Next, Konr will be telling us that unfounded attacks on character, loads of hyperbole, and fallacious information are the best way to make a point. Since I don't know Konr that well, I'll have to be a bit presumptuous when I say that my long-term goal is to help people break free of his cycle of oppression. Unfortunately, much remains to be done. As you may have noticed, while Konr is out rewarding mediocrity, the general public is shouldering the bill. Sadly, this is a bill of shattered minds, broken hearts and homes, depression and all its attendant miseries, and a despondency about Konr's attempts to egg on negative externalities in the form of evasion, collusion, and corruption.

No one is more uncontrollable than Konr. If you find that fact distressing then you should help me challenge Konr's deluded assumptions about merit. Either that, or you can crawl into a corner and lament that you got yourself born in the wrong universe. Don't expect your sobbing to do much good, however, because Konr emphatically denounces all of my evidence that he is slated for an unwept grave. He does so in a manner strongly reminiscent of the denunciation sessions once held in the Soviet Union and Communist China for those who deviated from the ideological line of those who held power. What's scary about that is that Konr likes subordinating principles of fairness to less admirable criteria. That's the most damnable thing about him. It's also why Konr is neither morally nor intellectually consistent. If he were, he wouldn't first revive the ruinous excess of a bygone era to bounce and blow amidst the ruinous excess of the present era then afterwards decry my observation that many of the things that his subordinates write make absolutely no sense. For example, what do they mean by, “Inficete, carnaptious Neanderthals are more deserving of honor than our nation's war heroes?” Maybe reading that sentence backwards reveals a hidden message, or maybe it's simply the case that we are a nation of prostitutes. By this I mean that as long as we are fat, warm, and dry we don't care what Konr does. It is precisely that lack of caring that explains why Konr always puts a fugleman in charge of granting the most petty anthropophagi I've ever seen the keys to the kingdom. That way, Konr can feign innocence, as he wasn't the one who did anything wrong. In fact, he can easily deny that his hypocrisy is transparent. Even the least discerning among us can see right through it.

It's incredible to me that anybody could be so grumpy. That, in itself, will condemn us to live with worthless beatniks when you least expect it. Konr constantly insists that all it takes to solve our social woes are shotgun marriages, heavy-handed divorce laws, and a return to some mythical 1950s Shangri-la. But he contradicts himself when he says that he is a bearer and agent of the Creator's purpose. The original purpose of nonrepresentationalism was to spread rumors, gossip, and stories that are unmistakably false. I wish I could put it more delicately, but that would miss the point. I think I know why so many disgraceful yahoos fracture family unity. It's because Konr has whipped them into a blind frenzy by telling them that cell-phone towers are in fact covert mind-control devices that use scalar waves to beam images into people's brains while they sleep. Unfortunately for Konr, the ground truth is that his squadristi merely present their allegations as though they were true, a technique known as a “conclusory” or “Kierkegaardian” leap. Whatever weight we accord to that fact, we may be confident that he must have some sort of problem with reading comprehension. That's the only explanation I can come up with as to why he accuses me of admitting that the kids on the playground are happy to surrender to the school bully. What I actually said is that it took no time at all for Konr to succumb to the demons of greed, power, and wealth. But you knew that already. So let me add that thoughtful people are being forced to admit, after years of evading the truth, that I have been right. I was right when I said that Konr's mean-spirited opuscula are a crime against morality, humanity, and civilization. I was right when I said that spreading hatred, animosity, and divisiveness is considered de rigueur by Konr's crew. And I was right when I said that Konr's virulent ideals aren't something we can safely ignore. Nor should we merely disparage them wittily over martinis at cocktail parties. No, we must reveal the constant tension between centripetal and centrifugal forces of dialogized heteroglossia resulting from Konr's prank phone calls. That's the only way to educate the public about how Konr holds onto power like the eunuch mandarins of the Forbidden City—sterile obstacles to progress who silence the truth.

It is clear that I, hardheaded cynic that I am, am annoyed by the insane and sometimes mischievous manifestations of rebelliousness against an inherited civilization of which Konr's sympathizers do not have the slightest understanding. It is equally clear that he yearns for the Oriental despotisms of pre-Hellenic times, the neolithic culture that preceded the rise of self-consciousness and egoism. By the same token, Konr abhors the current era, in which people are free to keep his vicegerents at bay. It seems clear that his hatred knows no bounds. But we ought to look at the matter in a broader framework before we draw final conclusions on the subject: We see that Konr's bred-in-the-bone belief is that people prefer “cultural integrity” and “multicultural sensitivity” to health, food, safety, and the opportunity to choose their own course through life. I don't expect ever to convince him otherwise, but I do wish Konr would simply admit that by making my worst nightmares come true, Konr has erected a monument to caciquism. Only it does not seem proper to say that such a thing has been “created”. “Excreted”, “belched”, “spewed”, and “spat out” are expressions more appropriate to the object here described. You see, there is still hope for our society, real hope—not the false sense of hope that comes from the mouths of annoying smart alecks but the hope that makes you eager to give our young people the values that will inspire them to reveal the truth about his calumnies.

If Konr can one day defy the law of the land then the long descent into night is sure to follow. His plans for the future, while ideologically grounded in a rhetoric and practice of elitism, are surrounded by a cloak of secrecy and “plausible denial”. Okay, that's a bit of an overstatement, but for all of you reading this who are not demonic blockheads, you can understand where the motivation for that statement comes from. He talks a lot about hucksterism and how wonderful it is. However, he's never actually defined what it means. How can Konr argue for something he's never defined? First, I'll give you a very brief answer, and then I'll go back and explain my answer in detail. As for the brief answer, Konr asserts that we'll be moved by some heartfelt words on the glories of escapism. This assertion is merely a belief, a belief unsupported by anything approaching a strong, clear body of historically documented evidence. In fact, most existing evidence suggests to the contrary that Konr's inimical, juvenile musings have caused parvanimous preachers of wowserism to descend upon us like a swarm of locusts, altering laws, language, and customs in the service of regulating social relations.

Let me mention again that Konr wants to scrap the notion of national sovereignty. Faugh. Although I'm trying desperately hard to express my opinion of him without using expletives, I'm afraid I do have to say that in a recent tell-all, a former member of Konr's terrorist organization writes that “Konr's malefic, petulant whinges are oozing with McCarthyism”. Those are some pretty harsh words even when one considers that Konr's hypocrisy is transparent. Even the least discerning among us can see right through it.

Technically, Konr has spent untold hours trying to give voice, in a totally emotional and non-rational way, to his deep-rooted love of totalism. During that time, did it ever once occur to him that we have not only a right but also a responsibility to champion the poor and oppressed against the evil of Konr? I confess that I don't know the answer to that question. I do know, however, that it would clearly be speaking within compass to say that Konr has, shall we say, questionable priorities. But the problems with Konr's pontifications don't end there. He does not tolerate any view that differs from his own. Rather, Konr discredits and discards those people who contradict him along with the ideas that they represent.

Konr has managed to mollify his more trusting critics simply by promising not to create a one-world government, stripped of nationalistic and regional boundaries, that is obedient to his agenda. We shall see how long that lasts. In the meantime, in Konr's limited horizon he himself is the important object. As a sequence to this self-conceit, he imagines that freedom must be abolished in order for people to be more secure and comfortable. We therefore need to explain to him that one could truthfully say that he is obviously hiding something. But saying that would miss the real point, which is that at this point in the letter I had planned to tell you that his real enmity against us comes through in his schemes, which Konr uses to drive us into insolvency. However, one of my colleagues pointed out that as a dynamic, historical current, adversarialism has taken many different forms and has evolved dramatically in a variety of ways. Hence, I discarded the discourse I had previously prepared and substituted the following discussion in which I argue that to understand his motives, I aver that we must examine the deep culture of his lynch mob—its key psychosocial traits, good and bad. If we do so, I predict we'll discover that Konr has called people like me sick scamps, confused quacks, and malodorous mob bosses so many times that these accusations no longer have any sting. Konr indisputably continues to employ such insults because he's run out of logical arguments. I suppose an alternate explanation is that vilipensive lummoxes are often found at Konr's elbow. This suggests to me that we all know, in the world that surrounds us, that there are terrorists and home invaders and drug cartels and carjackers and knockout gamers and rapers and haters and fork-tongued, unpleasant leguleians who scheme to don the mantel of insurrectionism and engage in the trafficking of human beings. What is often easy to forget, however, is that by instituting a system of intolerance to delegitimize alternative intellectual paradigms and ideas, Konr is telegraphing his intentions to terrorize the public.

Why Konr would even pretend that newspapers should report only on items he agrees with is beyond me. Certainly, he had promised us liberty, equality, and fraternity. Instead, Konr gave us prætorianism, cronyism, and triumphalism. I suppose we should have seen that coming, especially since mass anxiety is the equivalent of steroids for Konr. If we feel helpless, Konr is energized and ramps up his efforts to gain a virtual stranglehold on many facets of our educational system.

Anyone who is genuinely sleazy must also be genuinely slimy. Konr is both. This tells us that I used to think it would be possible to work out a compromise with him. Unfortunately, the terms that Konr insists upon are so absolutely unacceptable and so much in contradiction with earlier agreed-upon points that one can conclude only that I support those who devote their life to education and activism. It is through their tireless efforts that people everywhere are learning that before Konr once again claims that he can succeed without trying, he should do some real research rather than simply play a game of bias reinforcement with his apparatchiks. I, for one, certainly have a hard time reasoning with people who remain calm when they see Konr manipulating the unseen mechanisms of society so as to marginalize and eventually even outlaw responsible critics of the worst sorts of rummy, satanic meanies there are. It is probably unwise to say this loudly, but he is lacking in the social graces. Now that that's cleared up, I'll continue with what I was saying before, that he has secretly been spattering my reputation. This is, of course, a scandal and demands a thorough investigation, which I intend to conduct. I expect to find that I'm not writing this letter for your entertainment. I'm not even writing it for your education. I'm writing it for our very survival.

The following theorem may therefore be established as an eternally valid truth: A large number of people are immensely outraged at Konr. Konr should ask himself what he has done to incur such wrath. One possibility is that Konr has said, on more than one occasion, that his snow jobs provide a liberating insight into life, the universe, and everything. However, he has also said that everyone who scrambles aboard the Konr bandwagon is guaranteed a smooth ride. If you're scratching your head now, you should be. Konr's ipse dixits are so arbitrary, so inconsistent, that I can't help but think that Konr has recently been observed reviling everything in the most obscene terms and dragging it into the filth of the basest possible outlook. There is an eerie parallel here with Konr's previous attempts to rob Peter to pay Paul. The only difference is that if he truly believes that his way of life is correct and everyone else's isn't, then maybe he should enroll in Introduction to Reality 101. Thus, in summing up, we can establish the following: 1) Konr favors the idea of a country based on perquisites and privileges, and 2) until recently, Konr's stances have gone unnoticed and unanalyzed.

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Your username derives from the fact that this site cannot format special characters lol.


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lmfao, on reddit i'd get banned
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