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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2016 7:48 am    Post subject: Where would you be without Islam Reply with quote

today and in the next 5 years.
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without this?

Be kind to parents, relatives, wayfarers, the needy, orphans. 2:83, 16:90, 17:23-24, 30:38, 31:14, 89:17-20, 93:9-11, 107:1-3

Do not cut the relationship with your relatives. 47:22-23,

Do not steal the Orphans money or rip them off. 4:2, 4:10, 17:34,

Take care of the Orphans. 4:3, 4:6, 4:8-9, 4:127, 6:152

Do not accept wicked and corrupt things, money or wealth. 4:2

Do not corrupt the lands, the earth, people, creations. 7:56, 7:85

Say kind things to people. 4:5, 4:8-9

Do not entrust the weak in mind with your wealth. 4:5

Be kind to prisoners of war. 2:85

Establish Prayer and pay Zakat (charity). 2:110, 6:72, 6:92, 7:29, 7:206, 8:4, 13:22, 22:35, 22:41, 24:56, 31:4, 70:22-25, 75:31,

Pious Clothes لباس التقوى are mandatory upon the Believers to wear. Purify and Clean and Wash your clothes (‏وثيابك فطهر). 7:26, 24:58-60, 74:4-5

Abandon or stay away from all impurities, or all things that are impure (‏والرجز فاهجر), whether physical or spiritual. 74:5

Provide proof and Truth to what you claim. Produce your proof if you are Truthful. 2:111, 21:24, 27:64, 28:75

Believers do not mix their oaths with falsehood. 6:82

Give for the LOVE OF ALLAH financial support to kinsfolk, the orphans, the poor, and the wayfarer. (Pious is the one who) gives (help) to those who ask (for help), and (spends money) to free slaves. And (pious are those who) establish ‘salat’, pay the ‘zakat’, and fulfill the pledges made by them. Those who endure and display fortitude during poverty and adversity, and during times of crises. Such are the people who are sincere! Such are the pious ones. 2:177, 2:215, 2:83, 2:220, 9:24, 17:26, 90:11-17

Free a slave! ‏90:11 فلا اقتحم العقبة ‏90:12 وماادراك ماالعقبة ‏90:13 فك رقبة

Do not bribe or take bribery. Also, corrupt money is forbidden 2:188

If a disbeliever seeks refuge to you to protect him, then grant him the protection so that he may hear the Holy Quran. 9:6

Putting people through trial and tumult, and causing chaos in the society is worse than death itself. 2:191, 2:217, 10:85, 59:16-17

Do not be a trial to the disbelievers (‏ان الذين فتنوا المؤمنين والمؤمنات ثم لم يتوبوا فلهم عذاب جهنم ولهم عذاب الحريق).
Do not lie to them or deceive them (ربنا لاتجعلنا فتنة للذين كفروا واغفر لنا ربنا انك انت العزيز الحكيم). Allah Almighty wants to bring peace and harmony between the Muslims and the disbelievers. We have to be true and genuine all the time. 60:4-9, 85:10

Do not throw yourself into destruction. 2:195

Don't be fooled by good talk. 2:204

Arrogance is a sin. 2:206

People should co-exist in peace. 2:208, 8:61

Alcohol, Gambling, divination, and sorcery are evil. The same word for avoiding them was also used for idols false talk, lying and false testimony (فاجتنبوا الرجس من الاوثان واجتنبوا قول الزور). 2:219, 5:90-91, 22:30

Never hurt people with your charity! 2:263

It is better if you give your charity in secret to the poor 2:271

Speaking good and offering forgiveness is better than giving charity and hurt or annoy or SCANDALIZE people with it. 2:263-265, 3:134

[009:060] Alms are for the poor and the needy, and those employed to administer the (funds); for those whose hearts have been (recently) reconciled (to Truth); for those in bondage and in debt; in the cause of God; and for the wayfarer: (thus is it) ordained by God, and God is full of knowledge and wisdom. 9:60

Fulfill your oaths, vows and promises, and be trust worthy to all people. 2:270, 3:76, 76:7-10

Be a straight and upright believer. 46:13

Be true to your word. Do not say what you do not do (وانهم يقولون مالايفعلون). 26:226, 61:2-3,

Spend money on good things. 4:39

Call others towards excellence (in character and conduct) _ enjoining (and encouraging) virtue, and forbidding the wrong (and the indecent). Command what is right and condemn what is wrong 3:104, 3:110, 9:112, 22:41

The True Believers are:

[023:001] The believers must (eventually) win through,-
[023:002] Those who humble themselves in their prayers;
[023:003] Who avoid vain talk;
[023:004] Who are active in deeds of charity;
[023:005] Who abstain from sex,
[023:006] Except with those joined to them in the marriage bond, or (the captives) whom their right hands possess,- for (in their case) they are free from blame.
[023:007] But those whose desires exceed those limits are transgressors;-
[023:008] Those who faithfully observe their trusts and their covenants;
[023:009] And who (strictly) guard their prayers;-
[023:010] These will be the heirs,
[023:011] Who will inherit Paradise: they will dwell therein (for ever). 9:112, 23:1-11

Be Just! Also, Allah Almighty does not like injustice. Stand out firmly for justice, as witnesses to God, even as against yourselves, or your parents, or your kin, and whether it be (against) rich or poor 4:58, 3:108, 4:3, 4:135, 5:42, 5:106, 6:70, 6:152, 11:84-85, 11:112, 16:90, 20:111-112, 42:40-43, 57:25

Do not do mischief on earth, or destroy the crops, land and people's lives, or causing people losses or harm. Mischief also means spreading sexual immorality (‏ قال رب انصرني على القوم المفسدين). Earth is to be protected. 2:60, 2:205, 26:183, 29:30, 29:34-36, 38:28, 42:40-43, 47:22

Do not spread mischief in the land, nor plot conspiracies against people injustly 5:33, 11:84-85, 13:25, 26:151-152, 28:77

Do not damage the earth 5:33

Love the disbelievers from the People of the Book even if they don't love you and wish you all harm. 3:119-120

Put all of your trust in Allah Almighty 3:122, 9:51, 12:67, 14:11-12, 16:42

Be thankful to Allah Almighty; be satisfied with what Allah Almighty gives you. 3:123, 9:59

(Paradise is for) those who spend (for the sake of Allah) in good times and bad. Those who repress their rage, and forgive people; Allah loves the righteous! 3:134-136, 9:88-89

Be kind to your spouse. 30:21,

Do not steal the women's and wives' wealth, or rip them off, or force them to give up from their wealth 4:19-20

Do not be evil! 113:2

Do not steal 4:29-30, 4:33, 60:12

Do not covet what others have (ولاتمدن عينيك الى مامتعنا به ازواجا منهم زهرة الحياة الدنيا). 4:32, 20:131, 113:5

Serve Allah, and associate no one with Him. Be kind and gracious to your parents; (also be kind) to the kinsfolk, the orphans, the needy, the neighbor who is a kin as well as the one who is not, the fellow traveler, the wayfarer and the slaves (and captives). Of course, Allah does not like the conceited braggarts. 4:36, 29:8, 46:15-17, 76:7-10

Feed for the Love of Allah the indigent, the orphan, and the captive or prisoner of war:

‏76:7 يوفون بالنذر ويخافون يوما كان شره مستطيرا
‏76:8 ويطعمون الطعام على حبه مسكينا ويتيما واسيرا
‏76:9 انما نطعمكم لوجه الله لانريد منكم جزاء ولاشكورا
‏76:10 انا نخاف من ربنا يوما عبوسا قمطريرا
‏76:11 فوقاهم الله شر ذلك اليوم ولقاهم نضرة وسرورا 76:7-10, 90:11-17

Give words of Wisdom and Guidance to those who disbelieve. 4:63

Good Wisdom and Manners in Islam. Invite people to Islam with beautiful preaching, wisdom and argue in ways that are best and friendliest. Argue with the people of the Book in kindness except for those among them who do wrong (to Islam) (‏ولاتجادلوا اهل الكتاب الا بالتي هي احسن الا الذين ظلموا منهم). 16:125, 29:46

Do not kill an innocent soul from both believers and disbelievers. Also do not kill your children. 6:151, 17:31

When greeted, greet a better one or the same 4:86

Be kind to all people, and return the greeting to all people 4:94

Do not lie on people, and do not throw your sins and mistakes on people. 4:112, 22:30

Blessed are those who concile between people. 4:114

Blessed are those who do good to people. 4:114, 4:124, 22:77

Do not advertise or propagate evil, nor boast about evil to the people. 4:146-149

Do not speak evil loudly in public, nor in private. 4:146-149 (yes, same as the one above)

Fulfill your obligations and contracts 5:1

Be an honest (truthful) witness in everything you do and see, and be True to Allah Almighty 5:8, 9:119

Do not kill those who tried to kill you and failed 5:27-31

Do not be a murderer. 5:27-32, 17:33, 25:68

Say "Peace" to the ignorant ones. 43:89

When you hear rubbish talk, or nonsense, or talk that is made of bad things, don't stay and listen to it. Pass by it (‏والذين لايشهدون الزور واذا مروا باللغو مروا كراما). Nonesense, nonsensical talk are forbidden. 25:72, 31:6-7

Do no mock the volunteers from the Believers, and those who have nothing but their labor to give in charity. Allah Almighty didn't forgive those who did it, and even if the Prophet asked for forgiveness for them 70 times, it would've been rejected. 9:79-80

Believers go through suffering and adversity in order to be humbled, or feel humility. They walk on earth in humility. They treat all people with humbleness and kindness ( وعباد الرحمن الذين يمشون على الارض هونا). Be humble! They also say peace to the ignorant ones. 7:94, 11:23, 25:63, 28:55

Do not be arrogant or stuck-up or proud with arrogance. Be humble. 11:10, 17:37, 31:18

Walk your path for Good Cause (واقصد في مشيك). Don't be evil in your steps, or alluring, or enticing to others, or cause evil. 31:19

Lower your tone when you speak. Do not speak loud (واغضض من صوتك). 31:19

No compulsion in religion (‏اعبدوا ماشئتم من دونه قل ان الخاسرين الذين خسروا انفسهم). Can't force anyone in accepting Islam. 10:99, 18:29, 39:15, 2:256

Do not commit adultery or fornication. Do not even come anywhere near places that promote adultery or fornication (zina) (‏ولاتقربوا الزنى انه كان فاحشة وساء سبيلا ). Punishment for adultery and fornication. Status of the adulterer and adulterous, and fornicator (ولايزنون ومن يفعل ذلك يلق اثاما). 17:32, 24:2-3, 25:68, 42:37, 60:12

Do not utter slander (‏ هماز مشاء بنميم). 60:12, 68:11

Do not be of an aggressive personality and person; one that is resented by others:

‏68:12 مناع للخير معتد اثيم
‏68:13 عتل بعد ذلك زنيم
[068:012] (Habitually) hindering (all) good, transgressing beyond bounds, deep in sin,
[068:013] Violent (and cruel),- with all that, base-born,- 68:12-13

Do not assume responsibility or authority over things that you have no knowledge of (‏ ولاتقف ماليس لك به علم). 17:36

Seek knowledge and education that pleases Allah Almighty. The knowledgable is not equal to the ignorant or the one who is not knowledgable (قل هل يستوي الذين يعلمون والذين لايعلمون انما يتذكر اولوا الالباب). 39:9

Lower your gaze. Be chaste. Be Modest. Protect your Chastity. Do not be sexually open. Chastity, modesty.
‏70:29 والذين هم لفروجهم حافظون
‏70:30 الا على ازواجهم او ماملكت ايمانهم فانهم غير ملومين
‏70:31 فمن ابتغى وراء ذلك فاولئك هم العادون

Also, do not force your female right hand possession slaves into sex or prostitution when they desire chastity (ولاتكرهوا فتياتكم على البغاء ان اردن تحصنا).

24:30-34, 33:35, 70-29-31

Do not be a bully! Bullying people and being resented by them is detested by Allah Almighty. 60:8, 68:12-13

No evil thoughts and intentions. Be pure in your thoughts, intentions and heart. 17:25, 20:7, 21:110, 33:32, 5:52, 21:49



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I don't need scripture to tell me to do the above Smile
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I don't need scripture to tell me to do the above :)


You make it sound like you're better than him. It's just a different tool to learn this way of thinking which he has apparently come close to.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2016 8:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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konr wrote:
I don't need scripture to tell me to do the above Smile


You make it sound like you're better than him. It's just a different tool to learn this way of thinking which he has apparently come close to.

surrender, submission, obedience to God's commandments^, sincerity (no lies, no showing off), to be in Peace with whatever He gives you (whether you like it or not: say, "Thank you", because it is from Him).
this word in Arabic is ONE, it takes FIVE in ENGLISH:
surrender, submission, obedience, sincerity, peace

in Arabic, this is ISLAM

if you do not want this in your life, islam doesn't demand you accept it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qghQVIds6C4




Who were some of the great Muslim scientists and thinkers?
Like many of their later Renaissance counterparts, most Muslim scientists and thinkers were multidisciplinary, and produced remarkable works of in many fields. A few of the more famous scholars include:

Ibn Hayyan (Geber, 738-813) - known as the father of chemistry.

Al-Khawarizmi (Algorizm, 750-850) - invented algebra and was instrumental in the development of trigonometry, calculus, and the use of algorithms.

Ibn Firnas (died 888) - developed the mechanics of flight before DaVinci; he also built a planetarium.

Al-Razi (Rhazes, 864-930) - a great physician who identified and treated smallpox.

Al-Zahravi (Albucasis, 936-1013) - recognized as the father of modern surgery.

Ibn Sina (Avicenna, 981-1037) - a very well known physician, authored the "Cannon of Medicine" and the "Book of Healing." His writings were considered the authority of medicine for over five hundred years.

Al-Idrisi (Dreses, 1099-1166) - made the first world maps that clearly showed North, Central, and South America.

Ibn Rushd (Averroes, 1128-1198) - a great philosopher, astronomer, and physician.

Ibn Batuta (1304-1378) - an avid world traveler, writer and geographer; he visited most of then-known world from Spain, to parts of Africa, to China.


Is Islam respectful of other beliefs?
Yes. The Qur'an states unequivocally:

"There is no compulsion in religion. Truth stands out clearly from falsehood" (Qur'an 2:256)

Freedom of conscience is an essential tenant of Islam. Truth can only be seen if it is not clouded by coercion. Protection of the rights of non-Muslims is an intrinsic part of Islamic law. The Prophet Muhammad is reported to have said:

"He who hurts a non-Muslim citizen of a Muslim State - I am his adversary and I shall be his adversary on the Day of Judgment."

"Beware on the Day of Judgment, I shall, myself, be the accuser against him who wrongs a non-Muslim citizen (of a Muslim State) or Lays on him a responsibility greater than he can bear, or deprives him of anything that belongs to him."

History provides many examples of Muslims' respect towards other faiths. For instance, prior to the Spanish Inquisition, Jews and Christians lived and prospered in Spain for centuries under Muslim rule. Another well known example is when Omar, the second successor to Prophet Muhammad, entered Jerusalem. He refused to pray inside the Church of the Holy Sepulcher. He was concerned that some overzealous Muslim in the future might destroy the Church and build a Mosque in his honor.


How did Prophet Muhammad relate to Christians?
The earliest interfaith dialogue between Christians and Muslims occurred near the beginning of Muhammad's prophethood. The Prophet and his companions were greatly oppressed by the polytheists of Makkah. Muhammad sent some of his followers to seek refuge with the Negus of Abyssinia - a righteous and just Christian king. He listened to the Prophet's emissary with great respect and awe, especially the Qur'anic description of Mary and Jesus. This description led the king and his subjects to affirm that this indeed was God's revelation, and gladly grant the Muslims asylum they sought.

The Prophet recognized Christians as one of the "People of the Book." He treated them with respect and kindness, contracted treaties with the various Christian tribes, and he assured them the freedom to practice their faith and determine their own affairs while living under Islamic law.

One noteworthy example is when a large delegation of Christians from Najran visited the Prophet in Madinah. He received them with great hospitality, and they stayed at the Prophet's Mosque. When they wanted to leave the Mosque and go outside to perform their church services, the Prophet surprised them by offering the use of his Mosque.

Although they did not reach an agreement on all matters of faith, they left Madinah with a treaty of peace and cooperation given to them by the Prophet. This, and similar incidents, are the examples for Muslims and Christians to emulate in the pursuit of better interfaith relations.


Why is Islam often misunderstood?
In today's turbulent world, Islam is often on the front page - mostly for the wrong reasons. Islam means peace; yet some have taken this peaceful way of life and hijacked it into a violent way, and distorted their ideology for personal and political gains. Seeing a faith through explosive world events, and judging it by the actions of a misguided few, is the primary reasons why Islam is often misunderstood.

Islam is sometimes, intentionally misrepresented. Some politicians, religious leaders and media have found an ideal scapegoat in Islam. By associating Islam with the inhumane acts of a handful, they have been successful in driving larger numbers of people to vote for them; to donate towards their ministries; and to read their newspapers, watch their television programs and listen to their radio shows.

However, with an increasing number of Muslims speaking out against this falsehood; the true and peaceful nature of Islam is becoming more evident. Muslims are standing up against terrorism, against the persecution and killing of innocent people, and against those who perpetrate such injustice in the name of any faith.

The very word "Islam" means peace. A fifth of the world's population is reclaiming this peace as their chosen way of life.



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I don't need scripture to tell me to do the above Smile


You make it sound like you're better than him. It's just a different tool to learn this way of thinking which he has apparently come close to.
Him specifically yes, but I don't mean to imply I'm better than every Muslim. He's just a degenerate, delusional and dishonest cunt.
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O People, just as you regard this month, this day, this city as Sacred, so regard the life and property of every Muslim as a sacred trust. Return the goods entrusted to you to their rightful owners. Hurt no one so that no one may hurt you. Remember that you will indeed meet your LORD, and that HE will indeed reckon your deeds. ALLAH has forbidden you to take usury (interest), therefore all interest obligation shall henceforth be waived. Your capital, however, is yours to keep. You will neither inflict nor suffer any inequity.

All mankind is from Adam and Eve, an Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab;
also a white has no superiority over black nor a black has any superiority over white except by piety and good action.

Learn that every Muslim is a brother to every Muslim and that the Muslims constitute one brotherhood.
Nothing shall be legitimate to a Muslim which belongs to a fellow Muslim unless it was given freely and willingly.
Do not, therefore, do injustice to yourselves.
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Lmao yeah Adam and Eve definitely existed okay buddy
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Lmao yeah Adam and Eve definitely existed okay buddy

are you really trying to dismiss a denouncement against racism and sexism and nationalism???
"ye proceed one from another" is a better translation, welcome to a translation.

this is something from a speech you cited earlier, by the way.

which, if anyone actually read after you cited it, shows you are nothing but a liar.

and this is when you say you don't need qur'an to tell you not to have a perfect moral code; among things to not be arrogant, to not lie, to not be condescending, to not be judgmental, to not speak on what you have no knowledge of

and really, you can see even the lie in the claim that your morality is in line with my imaan, or superior.

you offer nothing but to poison the well and attack me; but you're unaware that these insults against me are really just upon yourself.
you really allow for insight into a portrait of our characters; you can't even have civil discourse: nowhere was i attacking you, and to accost has been your goal since the start, whereas my goal has been commanded to be to strive for&in truth.
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konr wrote:
Lmao yeah Adam and Eve definitely existed okay buddy

are you really trying to dismiss a denouncement against racism and sexism and nationalism???
"ye proceed one from another" is a better translation, welcome to a translation.

this is something from a speech you cited earlier, by the way.

which, if anyone actually read after you cited it, shows you are nothing but a liar.

and this is when you say you don't need qur'an to tell you not to have a perfect moral code; among things to not be arrogant, to not lie, to not be condescending, to not be judgmental, to not speak on what you have no knowledge of

and really, you can see even the lie in the claim that your morality is in line with my imaan, or superior.

you offer nothing but to poison the well and attack me; but you're unaware that these insults against me are really just upon yourself.
you really allow for insight into a portrait of our characters; you can't even have civil discourse: nowhere was i attacking you, and to accost has been your goal since the start, whereas my goal has been commanded to be to strive for&in truth.
Taylor you are one of the most pretentious, condescending, judgemental, arrogant and dishonest people I have ever spoken to. You show this constantly in every discussion we have and you have shown it for the many many years we've known each other. Are you seriously telling me that you think your moral code is fucking perfect when you point out a failed marriage here (while insulting the person you talk about) and try to imply I'm an alcoholic there? You say some nasty shit and you have done countless times in the presence of all of us and you have the audacity to act like you're made of more moral tissue than us?
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^confirmed for trying to dismiss a denouncement against racism and sexism and nationalism

confirmed for no interest in the truth

confirmed for only pursuing personal attacks.



What is Islam and who are Muslims?
Islam simply means to achieve peace - peace with God, peace with oneself, and peace with the creations of God - through wholly giving oneself God and accepting His guidance.

Islam is not a new faith. Muslims believe that it is the same truth that God revealed through all His prophets to every people. For a fifth of the world's population, Islam is not just a personal religion, but a complete way of life.

Muslims come from all races, nationalities and cultures across the globe. They have varied languages, foods, dress, and customs; even the way they practice Islam may differ. Yet they all consider themselves to be Muslim.

Islam is a qualitative term - the quality of accepting God's supreme authority above one's own. As such, being a Muslim does not mean having to give up one's culture or traditions; rather it means adopting the simple and logical principles of Islam to better one's life and attain peace.

Less than 15% of Muslims live the Arab world; a fifth are found in Sub-Saharan Africa; and the world's largest Muslim community is in Indonesia. Substantial parts of Asia, and almost all the Central Asian republics, are Muslim. Significant Muslim minorities are found in China, India, Russia, Europe, North America and South America.


What do Muslims believe?
Muslims believe in the One, Unique, Incomparable, Merciful God - the Sole Creator, Sustainer and Cherisher of the Universe; in the Angels created by Him; in the prophets through whom His revelations were brought to humankind; in the Day of Judgment, and in individual accountability for actions; in God's complete authority over destiny, be it good or bad and in life after death.

Muslims believe that God sent His messengers and prophets to all people. Biblical prophets mentioned in the Qur'an include: Adam, Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Lot, Ishmael, Isaac, Job, Ezekiel, Jacob, Joseph, Jonah, Jethro, Moses, Aaron, Elijah, Elisha, David, Solomon, Zechariah, John the Baptist, and Jesus; peace be upon them all.

God's final message to humanity was revealed to the last prophet, Muhammad, through the Archangel Gabriel. It confirmed and finalized all previous revelations that were sent to humankind through God's messengers.

One becomes a Muslim by believing and proclaiming that, "There is no deity except God, and that Muhammad is the messenger of God." By this declaration the believer announces his or her faith in all of God's messengers, and in the scriptures revealed to them.


Who is Allah?
Allah is the proper Arabic name for God. Muslims believe in and worship the same One God that the Jews and Christians worship. Allah says in the Qur'an:

"And do not debate with the People of the Book, unless in the best of manners, but not with those who are unjust, and say: "We believe in the Revelation that has come down to us and in that which has come down to you; Our God and your God is One, and to Him do we wholly give ourselves." (Qur'an 29:46)

Allah is a unique term with no plural an no gender. It predates Muhammad and was also used in the form of El, Elah or Elohim by David, Moses, Jesus and other messengers of God, peace be upon them all.

"He is God, the One that there is no deity but He; the Knower of the unseen and the apparent; He is the Source of All Mercy, the Merciful.

He is God, the One that there is no deity but He; the King, the Holy, the Source of All Peace, the Guardian of Faith, the Preserver, the Mighty, the Compeller, the Majestic; Glory to God, beyond their associations (of partners with Him)!

He is God, the Creator, the Maker, the Fashioner. To Him belong the most beautiful names. All that is in the heavens and the earth magnifies Him; He is the Mighty, the Wise." (Qur'an 59:22-24)


Do Islam, Christianity, and Judaism have different Origins?
No. Muslims believe that the original, unchanged message given to Muhammad, Jesus, Moses and all other prophets came from the One same God. This common origin explains their similarities in many beliefs and values.

"Say: We Believe in God and what has been revealed to us, and what was revealed to Abraham and Ishmael and Isaac and Jacob and the tribes, and what was given to Moses and Jesus and to the prophets from their Lord; we do not make any distinction between any of them, and to Him (God) do we wholly give ourselves." (Qur'an 3:84)

Jews, Christians and Muslims all consider Abraham their Patriarch. Abraham is mentioned in the Qur'an as one of the great prophets. He was blessed by God to be the father of many nations. From his second son, Isaac, descended the tribes of Israel, and through them, Moses and Jesus; and from his first son, Ishmael, came Muhammad (peace and blessings of God be upon all of His messengers).

Abraham was commanded by God to rebuild the place of worship that Adam first built - the Ka'bah, in Makkah (Mecca). The Ka'bah is a simple stone structure, erected as a sanctuary for the worship of the One God. Muslims do not worship the Ka'bah; the cubical building is simply the unified direction toward which all Muslims face in Prayer to God, Almighty.

Who was Muhammad?
Muhammad was born in Makkah in the year 570, during the period of history Europeans called the Middle Ages. Muhammad was the son of Aamenah and Abdullah, from the tribe of Quraysh. He was a direct descendant of Ishmael, the eldest son of prophet Abraham. Muhammad's father died just before he was born, and his mother passed away when he was six. He was raised by this grandfather, the chief of Makkah; and upon his grandfather's death, Muhammad came under the care of his uncle, Abu Talib.

Muhammad was a shepherd in his youth. As he grew up, he became known for his truthfulness, generosity, and sincerity; earning the title of al Amin, the trustworthy one. Muhammad was frequently called upon to arbitrate disputes and counsel his fellow Makkans.

At age 25, Muhammad married Khadijah, an honorable and successful businesswoman. They were blessed with two sons and four daughters. It was an ideal marriage and they lived a happy family life.

Muhammad was of a contemplative nature and had long detested the decadence and cruelty of his society. It became his habit to meditate from time to time in the cave of Hira' near the summit of Jabal an-Nur, the "Mountain of Light" on the outskirts of Makkah.



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Strawman bud, make some more shit up and act as if we're the ones doing that lmao
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Strawman bud, make some more shit up and act as if we're the ones doing that lmao


? no idea what you're talking about. not sure how any of what you're saying relates to islam. lol

How did Muhammad become a Messenger of God?
At the age of 40, while engaged in a meditative retreat, Prophet Muhammad received his first revelation from God through the Archangel Gabriel. This revelation, which continued for twenty three years, is known as the Qur'an

Muhammad began to share the revelations he received from God with the people of Makkah. They were idol worshippers, and rejected Muhammad's call to worship only One God. They opposed Muhammad and his small group of followers in every way. These early Muslims suffered bitter persecution.

In 622, God gave the Muslim community the command to emigrate. This event, the hijrah or migration, in which they left Makkah for the city of Madinah, some 260 miles to the North, marks the beginning of the Muslim calendar.

Madinah provided Muhammad and the Muslims a safe and nurturing haven in which the Muslim community grew. After several years, the Prophet and his followers returned to Makkah and forgave their enemies. Then, turning their attention to the Ka'bah (the sanctuary that Abraham built), they removed the idols and rededicated it to the worship of the One God. Before the Prophet died at the age of 63, most of the people of Arabia had embraced his message. In less than a century, Islam had spread to Spain in the west, as far east as China.


How did the spread of Islam affect the World?
The Muslim community constituted to grow after Prophet Muhammad's death. Within a few decades, vast numbers of people across three continents - Africa, Asia, and Europe - had chosen Islam as their way of life.

One of the reasons for the rapid and peaceful spread of Islam was the purity of its doctrine - Islam calls for faith in only one God. This, coupled with the Islamic concepts of equality, justice and freedom, resulted in a united and peaceful community. People were free to travel from Spain to China without fear, and without crossing any borders.

As millions of people embraced Islam, they brought with them the heritage of ancient civilizations like Egypt, Greece, India, Persia, and Rome. Muslims cherished these cultures' knowledge and took great pains to preserve their libraries and honor and the scholars residing in their cities.

Many Muslim scholars traveled to these cities seeking knowledge. They translated into Arabic volumes of philosophical and scientific works from Greek and Syriac languages (the languages of Eastern Christian scholars), from Pahlavi (the scholarly language of Pre-Islamic Persia), and from Sanskrit (an ancient Indian language). As a result, Arabic became the language of worldly scholarship, and people migrated from all over the world to study in the Muslim Universities.


How did the spread of Islam affect the world? (cont)
By 850, most of the philosophical and scientific works of Aristotle; much of Plato and Pythagorean school; and the major works of Greek astronomy, mathematics and medicine such as the Almagest of Ptolemy, the Elements of Euclid, and the works of Hippocrates and Galen, were all rendered into Arabic. Furthermore, important works of astronomy, mathematics and medicine were translated from Pahlavi and Sanskrit. For the next 700 years, Arabic became the most important scientific language of the world and the repository of much of the wisdom and the sciences of antiquity.

The achievement of scholars working in the Islamic tradition went far beyond translation and preservation of ancient learning. These scholars built upon the ancient heritage with their own scientific advances. These advancements were a direct cause of the Renaissance in Europe.

Muslims excelled in art, architecture, astronomy, geography, history, language, literature, medicine, mathematics, and physics. Many crucial systems such as algebra, the Arabic numerals, and the very concept of zero (vital to the advancement of mathematics), were formulated by Muslim scholars and shared with medieval Europe. Muslims invented sophisticated instruments that made future European voyages of discovery possible: the astrolabe, the quadrant, and detailed navigational maps and charts.


What is the Quran?
Muslims believe that the Qur'an is the very word of God Almighty: a complete record of the exact words revealed by God through the Archangel Gabriel to Prophet Muhammad.

The Qur'an was memorized by Prophet Muhammad and his followers, dictated to his companions, and written down by scribes, who cross-checked it during the Prophet's lifetime. Not one word of its 114 surahs (chapters) has been changed over the centuries. The Qur'an is in every detail the same unique and miraculous text that was revealed to Muhammad over fourteen centuries ago.

The Qur'an is the principle source of every Muslim's faith and practice. It deals with all subjects that concern us as human beings, including wisdom, doctrine, worship and law; but its basic theme is the relationship between God and His creatures. At the same time, the Qur'an provides guidelines for a just society, proper human conduct and equitable economic principles.

"He (God) has sent down to you the Book (the Qur'an) with truth, confirming what was revealed before; And He sent down the Torah (of Moses) and the Gospel (of Jesus) before this as a guide in humankind; and He sent down the Criterion (the Qur'an)." (Qur'an 3:3-4)


Apart from the Quran is there any other Sacred Source?
Yes, the sunnah - the practice and example of the Prophet Muhammad is the second source of inspiration and instruction for Muslims. Belief in the sunnah is part of the Islamic faith. The Prophet's sunnah and sayings were documented extensively by his contemporaries and are known as hadith. Here are a few examples of hadith from the Prophet:

"None of you truly believe until he wishes for his brother what he wishes for himself."

"He who eats his fill while his neighbor goes without food is not a believer."

"God does not judge you according to your bodies and appearances, but He looks into your hearts and observes your deeds."

"Whoever does not express his gratitude to people shall never grateful to God."

"Show mercy to those on earth, the One in Heaven will show mercy to you."

"God is gentle and loves gentleness."

"The world is green and beautiful and God has appointed you His guardians over it."

"Forgive him who wrongs you; join him who cuts you off; do good to him who does evil to you; and speak the truth even if it be against yourself."

" 'A man walking along a path felt very thirsty. Reaching a well he descended into it, drank his fill and came up. Then he saw a dog with its tongue hanging out, trying to lick up mud to quench its thirst. The man saw that the dog was feeling the same thirst as he had felt, so he went down into the well again and filled his shoe with water and gave the dog a drink. God forgave his sins for this action.' The Prophet was asked: 'Messenger of God, are we rewarded for kindness towards animals?' He said, 'There is a reward for kindness to every living being.' "

"O People, listen to me in earnest, worship God Almighty, perform your five daily prayers, fast during the month (of Ramadan), give regular charity and perform the pilgrimage if you can afford to…

Know that every Muslim is the brother of another Muslim. You are equal. Nobody has superiority over others, except by piety and good actions¦

I leave behind two things, if you follow these you will never go astray: the Book of God (the Qur'an) and my example."



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konr wrote:
Strawman bud, make some more shit up and act as if we're the ones doing that lmao


? no idea what you're talking about. not sure how any of what you're saying relates to islam. lol
I'm entirely saying that it's funny to say that Adam and Eve were real, that's it.
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konr wrote:
Strawman bud, make some more shit up and act as if we're the ones doing that lmao


? no idea what you're talking about. not sure how any of what you're saying relates to islam. lol
I'm entirely saying that it's funny to say that Adam and Eve were real, that's it.


Al-Nisa’ Chapter 4 : Verse 2
O ye people! fear your Lord, Who created you from a single soul and created therefrom its mate, and from them twain spread many men and women; and fear Allah, in Whose name you appeal to one another, and fear Him particularly respecting ties of relationship. Verily, Allah watches over you.
Al-An`am Chapter 6 : Verse 99
And He it is Who has produced you from a single person and there is for you a home and a lodging. We have explained the Signs in detail for a people who understand.
Al-A`raf Chapter 7 : Verse 190
He it is Who has created you from a single soul, and made therefrom its mate, that he might find comfort in her. And when he knows her, she bears a light burden, and goes about with it. And when she grows heavy, they both pray to Allah, their Lord, saying: ‘If Thou give us a good child, we will surely be of the thankful.’
Al-Zumar Chapter 39 : Verse 7
He created you from a single being; then from that He made its mate; and He has sent down for you eight head of cattle in pairs. He creates you in the wombs of your mothers, creation after creation, in threefold darkness. This is Allah, your Lord. His is the kingdom. There is no God but He. Whither then are you being turned away?
And in all the above verses single soul is the translation of the words نَّفۡسٍ۬ وَٲحِدَةٍ۬ (Nafsinw Wahidatin).I used to state that the arabic word نَّفۡسٍ۬ (Nafs; soul) was always referred in the female in each of the above instances proving that according to the Quran the first being was not a male but rather a female (or was sexless). However, I was pointed out to in this regard by several friends and so I checked the dictionary of Lane. According to Lane the word could have both masculine and feminine forms. However, when I looked up each instance of the word in the Quran I found that it was always referred to in the feminine even if the soul belonged to a male. For example, “Allah does not burden any soul beyond its capacity …” [2: 287] where soul obviously refers to males and females. And there is even one instance, “And remember the time when you slew a person and differed among yourselves about it …” (2:73) where the person being referred to is male. Therefore, I must confess that the direct claim seems quite mistaken and so I should take it back until proven otherwise.

The most that can be said, then, is this:
The word نَّفۡسٍ۬ (Nafs) refers to all living beings and not only to humans. For example the verse [3:186] “Every soul shall taste of death …” in which the word refers to all living things.While it may not be inferred directly that the first living thing was a female from the above verse it can easily be inferred that in none of the above cases there is any positive evidence of it being a male. The word “single soul” could refer to a male, female, and even a sexless being. Both the latter cases are perfectly in line with abiogenesis. That is, life started as a single cell (sexless but also known as “mother” cell due to its ability to give birth … definitely not male).

The interesting point remains that in [4:2] above after relating creation of the single cell in “… created you from a single soul …” and subsequent asexual and sexual reproduction “… created therefrom its mate …” the Quran does use the specific words for men (رِجَالاً۬ Rijaalan) and women (نِسَآءً۬ۚ Nisa’) towards the middle of the verse. In this verse [4:2] despite the use of the Arabic word for “man” in the latter part of the verse the initial creation does not use the Arabic word for “man” and instead uses the Arabic word for “soul”. Why does the Quran in all verses that detail the creation of the first soul not use the word رجل (man) if a man was the first created? The Quran insists on refraining from the word رجل (Rajal; man) to describe the first creation in each instance preferring to use the word نَّفۡسٍ۬ (Nafas; soul).

In fact, in less than half a verse the Quran beautifully summarizes the entire process of evolution to human beings as we know them today. That we were created from a single living cell that underwent a long period of asexual reproduction until the “daughter” cell had a male sex and reproduced with another “daughter” cell beginning a long period of sexual reproduction from where the several men and women that exist today came.

As already alluded to in the preceding note Adam was a Prophet and Messenger and Caliph of Allah. And to whom was he a messenger if there were not people to pass on the message to?

Al-Baqarah Chapter 2: Verse 214
Mankind were one community, (then they differed among themselves) so Allah raised Prophets as bearers of good tidings and as warners,





What are the five pillars of Islam? Testimony
The "five pillars" of Islam are the basis of Muslim life. Prophet Muhammad is reported to have said:

"Islam is founded on 5 pillars; to testify that 'there is no deity except God, and Muhammad is the messenger of God;' to establish the ritual prayers; to give charity (to the needy); to perform the pilgrimage to the House (of worship in Makkah); and to fast during the month of Ramadan."

A practicing Muslim's life is centered on these pillars. The first and foremost of these is the testimony.

"There is no deity except God; Muhammad is the messenger of God."

This simple declaration of faith is required of all those who accept Islam as their chosen way of life. The words have to be uttered with sincere conviction and under no coercion. The significance of this testimony is the belief that the only purpose of life is to serve and obey God; and this is achieved through following the example of Prophet Muhammad.

Muslims believe that throughout history, God sent His chosen messengers to guide humankind. The testimony that these prophets taught was similar. The first commandment found in the Bible is "I am the Lord, thy God; thou shalt not have other gods before Me." This belief in the Oneness of God is central to Islam and permeates all of Muslim life.

What are the five pillars of Islam? Prayer
A key element of Muslim life is the obligatory, ritual prayer. These prayers are performed five times a day, and are a direct link between the worshipper and God. This very personal relationship with the Creator allows one to fully depend, trust and love God; and to truly achieve inner peace and harmony, regardless of the trails one faces.

Prophet Muhammad said: "Indeed, when one of you prays, he speaks privately with his Lord."

Prayers are performed at dawn, mid-day, late-afternoon, sunset and nightfall; reminding one of God throughout the day. Regular prayer helps prevent destructive deeds and gives one the opportunity to seek God's pardon for any misgivings.

The Prophet once asked his companions: "Do you think if there was a river by the door and one of you bathed in it five times a day; would there remain any dirt on him?" The Prophet's companions answered in the negative. The Prophet then said: "That is how it is with the five (daily) prayers; through them God washes away your sins."

Friday is the day of congregation for Muslims. The mid-day prayer on Friday is different from all other prayers in that it includes a sermon. Prayer at other times are relatively simple, they include verses from the Qur'an and take only a few minutes to complete.

Muslims are greatly encouraged to perform their five daily prayers in congregation, and in the Mosque. A Mosque, in its most basic form, is simply a clean area designated for prayers. Mosques throughout the world have taken on various architectural forms, reflected local cultures. They range from detached pavilions in China to elaborate courtyards in India; from massive domes in Turkey to glass and steel structures in the United States. However, one unique and obvious feature remains - the "call to prayer."

The first person to call Muslims to prayer was a freed African slave from Abyssinia, Bilal ibn Rabah. He was a beloved companion of Prophet Muhammad. Bilal's rich and melodious voice called the Muslims of Madinah to prayer five times a day.

A translation of the call to prayer:

God is Greater, God is Greater;

God is Greater, God is Greater.

I testify that there is no deity except God;
I testify that there is no deity except God.

I testify that Muhammad is the messenger of God; I testify that Muhammad is the messenger of God.

Come to prayer! Come to prayer!

Come to success! Come to success!

God is Greater! God is Greater!

There is no deity except God.


What are the five pillars of Islam? Fasting
Fasting in the month of Ramadan is an essential part of being a Muslim. Muslims fast from dawn until sundown - abstaining from food and drink, and guarding themselves from destructive behavior.

Those who are sick, elderly, or on a journey, and women who are pregnant or nursing, are permitted to break the fast and make up an equal number of days later in the year. Children begin to fast (and to observe prayers) from puberty, although many start earlier.

God states in the Qur'an: "O you who believe! Fasting is prescribed for you as it was prescribed to those before you that you may achieve greater awareness (of God)." (Qur'an 2:183)

Fasting is not only beneficial to health, but it also allows one to truly empathize with those less fortunate. However, fasting is mainly a method of self-purification and self-restraint. By cutting oneself from worldly comforts, even for a short time, a fasting person focuses on his or her purpose in life by constantly being aware of God.

Ramadan is a special time for Muslims everywhere; a time for reflection and greater spirituality. The end of Ramadan is observed by a holiday - Eid al Fitr. On this day, Muslims all over the world celebrate with prayers and an exchange of gifts.


What are the five pillars of Islam? Charity
An important principle of Islam is that everything belongs to God; wealth is therefore held by human beings in trust. Obligatory charity or zakah means both "purifications" and "growth." Our possessions are purified by setting aside a proportion for those in need and for society in general. Like the pruning of plants, this cutting back balances and encourages new growth.

Each Muslim calculates his or own zakah individually. This involves the annual payments to those in need of 2.5% of one's assets, excluding such items as primary residence, car and professional tools. Zakah is a unique concept, compare to other forms of giving, in that it redistributes the wealth of society; when applied correctly, it effectively eliminates poverty.

God places great emphasis on taking care of the needy in society; He says in the Qur'an: "Those who spend of their wealth (in charity) by night and by day, and in secret and in public have their reward with their Lord, on them there shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve." (Qur'an 2:274)

Giving beyond the obligatory charity is expected upon every Muslim and may take many forms. The Prophet said, "Even meeting your brother with a smile is an act of charity." The Prophet further said that when one has nothing to give, he can stay away from evil; that too is charity.



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