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Games that have 1 hit death

 
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VirtualMind
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 04, 2016 3:03 pm    Post subject: Games that have 1 hit death Reply with quote

How will you go on by hacking games that are 1 hit death type ( player has no health, you get hit you die )

Do those games normally use Booleans? and if so how would you look for the address in such games?

and what if it used integers?
like if value is = 10 player is dead, if value is 20 player is alive etc..

and what if it used negative numbers and positive numbers?

there are so many possibilities. but my goal is to prevent the player from dying on such games

i tired to use Decreased/increases value but doing that won't do much since i get stuck on thousands of values and they never change. they all decrease/increase at the same time
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 04, 2016 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can try changed/unchanged in combination with first scan/last scan.
Difficulty here is the game may move the address after you've died.
Do monsters die in 1 hit too? Maybe find their health first.
See if the same instructions touching their health touch the player's too.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 04, 2016 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ultimap could potentially be used for this.

Right before you die activate ultimap, die, and tell it the code that killed you has been executed.
Now you may wish to tick "mark all new entries as filtered out" and play the game as good/bad as you can without dying, and keep on pressing "Code did not get executed"

Perhaps die 2 or 3 more times, and each time click "code has been executed" to filter more and more to the code that is responsible for killing you.

Then look at the coee it has found and see if there is a way you can figure out what is what.

Keep in mind that it will also find some less useful code paths, like the code for playing your dead animation, and sounds (those are difficult to filter out)

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 04, 2016 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zanzer wrote:
Can try changed/unchanged in combination with first scan/last scan.
Difficulty here is the game may move the address after you've died.
Do monsters die in 1 hit too? Maybe find their health first.
See if the same instructions touching their health touch the player's too.


well the game im specifically tried out is I wanna be the guy Gaiden

it yes it moves the addresses alot. like maybe after 1 minute all addresses are changed. i guess to prevent cheating. enemies don't die with 1 hit but i was saying. by time time im trying to find something all addresses get changed and all work is lost
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 04, 2016 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As Dark Byte suggests...use ultimap if you can.

That said, if there is a moment in the game where your character cannot be hurt (e.g. short moment right after re-spawning or during a moment where you have a force-field or are invincible etc.), then use that.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 12:26 pm    Post subject: yes totally !! Reply with quote

i agreed its a fantastic formula for that ,imagination works !!!
also theres a lot more ...... etc......
have a beautiful day !!!!
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