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Michaelc · Cheater Reputation: 0 Joined: 15 May 2016 Posts: 47

My game show my direction in the world with an arrow that points in a direction. I tried unknown initial values and by turning either clockwise or counterclock-wise along with increased value and decreased value, it didn't find the direction variable for me.

What do I do now?

Thx
(I don't know if it's ok to have 2 posts, sorry if i made a mistake)

JohannesJoestar

Michaelc · Cheater Reputation: 0 Joined: 15 May 2016 Posts: 47

i ended up with 219 results O_O
what do i do? I ll try again in the mean time

++METHOS · Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 1:28 pm Post subject:

219 results is not a lot. Also, increased/decreased may or may not work, depending on what you're doing and how the game is handling that information.

Whenever batch-editing values, it is sometimes better to freeze the values that you have in lieu of changing them to something else.

Michaelc · Cheater Reputation: 0 Joined: 15 May 2016 Posts: 47

how do i scan for the direction of my character is point at?
would it use a float, double, or something else to store that value?

thx

++METHOS · Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 1:25 pm Post subject:

It really depends on the game and how that data is handled. If it's an old, 2D game, I might say byte or 2 byte data type. If it's a newer, 3D game, probably float or double. If you're having difficulties, perhaps try searching for changed/unchanged value. I wouldn't recommend using unchanged value unless you are able to find a reliable constant or you can do something like this:

1. rotate your character while in the game.
2. enter the pause menu or some other screen where your character cannot move at all.
3. scan for changed value.
4. wait, navigate the menus, focus your mouse on another process etc. then scan for unchanged value.
5. Repeat step 4, then start back at step 1.

You're probably going to have a lot of values that constantly change, no matter what, so you can remove those from your list by observing which ones are changing, even though they shouldn't be.

If you are somehow able to find a way to keep the rotation value constant without minor fluctuations while you are in-game (e.g. attaching your character to a ladder, sitting/laying on/in something, standing still at a counter or some other engagement with AI etc.), then that might help a great deal with narrowing in on the value that you're looking for. Just standing still in the game will probably not work, as the value may fluctuate a tiny amount, without you even realizing it.

Also, if the game has online components and these values are being handled on the sever (for whatever reason), then you may be out of luck.

Michaelc · Cheater Reputation: 0 Joined: 15 May 2016 Posts: 47

ok i found about this, I know how to do this now!

Next: How do make Cheat engine always know these addresses?

thx!

++METHOS · Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 7:27 pm Post subject:

Complete the CE tutorial and learn about pointers, the pointer scanner and/or injection.

Michaelc · Cheater Reputation: 0 Joined: 15 May 2016 Posts: 47

got cha

is there a way to see something called "module" in the ram?

I was told the data i want is just at module+offset

++METHOS · Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 8:00 pm Post subject:

Not all targets will have module addressing available. If CE can use it, it will. Make sure you have 'show module addresses' checked in the memory viewer.

If you find a static address, it may be written in your cheat table as game.exe+offset when you double-click it.

Don't rely on that, though. Chances are, especially if you're dealing with a newer game or one of the many smaller games on steam etc., then you're going to have to do more work.

Michaelc · Cheater Reputation: 0 Joined: 15 May 2016 Posts: 47

So for my game I did this, first, search for the address the values i want and i found them alright

and then I found what access this address

there is only one that does

and then I found that address that's potential pointer to me, as suggusted by the window

So i searched that address, hoping to find the next pointer or something,
but it always returns nothing!

it's all here in the picture

how can this be? The tutorial would have shown that this search returned some useful stuff.

++METHOS · Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 8:20 pm Post subject:

Forget about manual pointer work. Use the pointer scanner, if you must. Better yet, learn how to use injection. That is my advice.

Cake-san · Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 8:35 pm Post subject:

Sometimes,on newer game,you have to use scan between option to scan the pointer,like this:
let say the instruction is fstp dword ptr [esi+04]
ESI = 05E04964

Select Scan Type: Value Between
Then,just input on the scan bar something like this:05E04900 and 05E04960
Start scanning.
If the scan doesn't produce any result, decrease the first value like this: 05E04700 and 05E04960.

You can also try to backtrace that instruction but it required some knowledge of asm. Rolling Eyes

Michaelc · Cheater Reputation: 0 Joined: 15 May 2016 Posts: 47

I have encountered layers of layers of pointers, hundreds of them! Yes I know what you mean.

What I don't get is how to compare searches. I have a .ptr but when I rescan the game after restarting them, the result is always 0.

Where could be my mistake?

++METHOS · Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 8:48 pm Post subject:

There are many variables to consider. Without knowing more, it's difficult to say. It could be something that you're doing wrong or not at all. It could have something to do with the target itself.

If you're insistent on using the pointer scanner, watch videos on youtube and/or follow tutorials on this forum to show you how to do it properly. If you're still not getting results, provide all of the information you can regarding the target and the steps that you've taken, and post your question(s) for help.