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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 1:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Look at at this way, there are no more deep south states (which are primarily Republican in a general election ANYWAYS) for Hillary to win, and she is losing or is neck and neck in all the other states. Anyone saying that Bernie isn't going to win is just lying to you, or is propagating corporate establishment bias as represented by the media. Don't buy into anything the opposition is trying to sell. They just don't want competition in a general election because everyone knows Hillary is going to lose.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 1:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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He's gonna pull through on Super Tuesday, without a doubt. It may be close, but he will win. The GOP might as well just rename themselves to the Trump party.


You do base a lot of things in speculation bud.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 1:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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He's gonna pull through on Super Tuesday, without a doubt. It may be close, but he will win. The GOP might as well just rename themselves to the Trump party.


You do base a lot of things in speculation bud.

Everything about your demeanor is speculation, that's why you support Trump. Everything about his campaign is deliberately vague you imbecile.

I made a prediction that he would pull farther ahead than he did, and i was wrong. I wasn't wrong in the sense that you say I am since he still won 4 states on super Tuesday. He's still a 100% viable candidate.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 1:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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He's gonna pull through on Super Tuesday, without a doubt. It may be close, but he will win. The GOP might as well just rename themselves to the Trump party.


You do base a lot of things in speculation bud.

Everything about your demeanor is speculation, that's why you support Trump. Everything about his campaign is deliberately vague you imbecile.

I made a prediction that he would pull farther ahead than he did, and i was wrong. I wasn't wrong in the sense that you say I am since he still won 4 states on super Tuesday. He's still a 100% viable candidate.



Um no. Trump will win because of his talent. You can disagree with him on certain things. You can dislike him because he's mean. But you can't deny he came to this race as an underdog with 17 other candidates. He's beaten all of the politicians swiftly. And he's running his campaign fluidly. You can't deny that he is skilled and talented. He hasn't made a mistake yet while Sanders has made multiple mistakes.

From branding, to campaign funds, marketing, leadership, strategy, systematic, efficiency. You can analyze how he runs his campaign and you can see how masterful he is at running it. He set up the veteran fundraiser event in one day very successfully and pulled 6 million in a day. ONE DAY.

All Bernie has are his policies. He has outspent Hillary only to not gain anything. He has incredible passion but no skill to win the election. His campaign strategy is terrible. Even though I don't like Hillary she runs a much better campaign than Sanders has.

You seem to really underestimate the difficulty of running a successful campaign and Sanders has a terrible campaign strategy. If he wins the nomination it will be because of luck, not skill.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 2:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"he hasn't made a mistake yet" I'm done lmao you must be trolling.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 2:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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"he hasn't made a mistake yet" I'm done lmao you must be trolling.



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 5:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's really weird that you put so much into how he's running a campaign correctly. Shouldn't the most important part be the policies?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 5:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It's really weird that you put so much into how he's running a campaign correctly. Shouldn't the most important part be the policies?


What's wrong with his policies?

It's important but I think that comes second. If Sanders win the presidency what makes you think he'll be able to implement his policies? He had a 3% success rate in legislation. Which means he was a terrible leader and he couldn't get shit approved.

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It's really weird that you put so much into how he's running a campaign correctly. Shouldn't the most important part be the policies?


What's wrong with his policies?

It's important but I think that comes second. If Sanders win the presidency what makes you think he'll be able to implement his policies? He had a 3% success rate in legislation.
Do you agree with Sanders' policies and morals? Is it only (or at least mostly) that you think he won't be able to realise them?
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konr wrote:
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It's really weird that you put so much into how he's running a campaign correctly. Shouldn't the most important part be the policies?


What's wrong with his policies?

It's important but I think that comes second. If Sanders win the presidency what makes you think he'll be able to implement his policies? He had a 3% success rate in legislation.
Do you agree with Sanders' policies and morals? Is it only (or at least mostly) that you think he won't be able to realise them?


I agree with certain things. He would be my second pick if Trump doesn't get the nomination. And yeah I don't think he'll be able to get anything done. He was a terrible leader and he couldn't get people to work with him. Besides I like Trumps policies more.

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konr wrote:
Antagonist wrote:
konr wrote:
It's really weird that you put so much into how he's running a campaign correctly. Shouldn't the most important part be the policies?


What's wrong with his policies?

It's important but I think that comes second. If Sanders win the presidency what makes you think he'll be able to implement his policies? He had a 3% success rate in legislation.
Do you agree with Sanders' policies and morals? Is it only (or at least mostly) that you think he won't be able to realise them?


I agree with certain things. He would be my second pick if Trump doesn't get the nomination. And yeah I don't think he'll be able to get anything done. He was a terrible leader and he couldn't get people to work with him. Besides I like Trumps policies more.
Don't you think that if the American people voted enough to get him into power then it'd be a great tell tale that what he's been pushing for for so long is what the American people want? I think that alone would make him as a president a lot more successful with legislation. I just feel as if considering the amount of corruption and complete bullshit that has surrounded politics in the west for so long it is at the very least worth a try to go for a guy that hasn't changed his stance the entire time and effectively seems like the first candidate with proper morals in a long time. Trump however for the same sort of reason worries me, so I think the risk is higher with him.
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konr wrote:
Antagonist wrote:
konr wrote:
Antagonist wrote:
konr wrote:
It's really weird that you put so much into how he's running a campaign correctly. Shouldn't the most important part be the policies?


What's wrong with his policies?

It's important but I think that comes second. If Sanders win the presidency what makes you think he'll be able to implement his policies? He had a 3% success rate in legislation.
Do you agree with Sanders' policies and morals? Is it only (or at least mostly) that you think he won't be able to realise them?


I agree with certain things. He would be my second pick if Trump doesn't get the nomination. And yeah I don't think he'll be able to get anything done. He was a terrible leader and he couldn't get people to work with him. Besides I like Trumps policies more.
Don't you think that if the American people voted enough to get him into power then it'd be a great tell tale that what he's been pushing for for so long is what the American people want? I think that alone would make him as a president a lot more successful with legislation. I just feel as if considering the amount of corruption and complete bullshit that has surrounded politics in the west for so long it is at the very least worth a try to go for a guy that hasn't changed his stance the entire time and effectively seems like the first candidate with proper morals in a long time. Trump however for the same sort of reason worries me, so I think the risk is higher with him.


From what I have read about Bernie. People who have worked with him don't like him or they don't think he's much of anything. He has no brand and there is no flare of respect that he holds - and it shows with his campaign where his base are primarily millennials. The people he has worked with has don't endorse him. If Sanders become president and he sees how difficult it is to get things moving as how Obama found that out he'd just be another Obama who doesn't do anything. Just hides in the white house and play golf. He doesn't seem to show a bit of strength. I've seen some of his debate performance and I've seen him crack under pressure when he gets distracted. These little tid bits may not seem important but it shows how a person is as a leader. Can he stand firm against Russia and China? I've read about Putin and heard him speak. This man is extremely intelligent. And I think he is much more intelligent than Sanders. Now Russia CAN be a great asset to the US or a grave danger. I don't think Sanders has the capabilities to finesse the situation that we're facing.

Trump - you are just concerned about his morals. If that's what you're concerned about. I advise you to read his book the Art of the Deal. It's a great read. And its short. Plus you'll learn some practical knowledge. But you gotta ask yourself. If Trump is a person with twisted morals. Why are his kids loved? You can tell a lot about person by how they raise their kids. None of his kids are bratty nor egotistical. Then you gotta ask. As a world class business man. Why would Trump drive this country to the ground? He spent his whole life building a good image for the Trump brand. It would destroy his legacy if he were a bad president.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bernie lost. Theres almost no way for him to recover. Even without super del, he super far behind. He should just drop out and run as VP.
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Kyle is delusional. He'll justify everything and he'll justify till the end. He doesn't understand Sanders has to win by super large margins of at least 25% for EVERY state after this to get the nomination. Thinking he can get that much win is illogical. Especially in the upcoming states like NY NJ PA. Super delegates are also not going to go with Sanders who is a non establishment. Sanders also has no momentum going forward. He ran a terrible campaign and Clinton is a much more talented candidate than he is.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I more or less accepted defeat last Super Tuesday. I likely won't vote in the general.
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