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vincedv
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 5:01 am    Post subject: Job Offer Reply with quote

Hello,

I'm head of a fast growing Pay2Cheat company since May 2015. After experiencing a good amount of positive feedbacks, we are looking for new staff members in order to expand the company.
We are actually rebranding, starting everything from scratch in order to offer a better service and products to our loyal customers.
Basically we are looking for 2 coders, a kernel expert who will focus on the driver(s), and a cheat expert with a lot of experience with Source Engine, Unity3D, Unreal Engine 4 and Virtual Reality.

We want to offer three categories of cheats:
1) Public Cheats:

  • CSGO
  • ArmA2 Remote Executor
  • ArmA3/DayZ Remote Executors if we manage to make those safe again
  • Any other "non-aggressive" AntiCheat supported game which is considered worth after studying the market


2) Private Cheats:

  • ArmA2 (BattlEye)
  • ArmA3 (BattlEye)
  • DayZ (BattlEye)
  • Rust (EAC)
  • Hurtworld (EAC)
  • Squad (EAC)
  • CSGO (Leagues)


3) Scripts

  • For Virtual Reality Engine, ArmA&DayZ
  • Our loader will be more like a platform where people can browse scripts made independent developers


We want to put a lot of effort on making the public cheats really good, and the private cheats really safe. People who want to access private cheats will need to be whitelisted by meeting a list of requirements and pass an interview with us.
We want to put aside the money grinding idea and put the customer in the center of our preoccupations. Quality over quantity in other words.

The skills we are looking for are the following:
1) Kernel Expert:

  • Strong experience with Kernel Drivers
  • Mastering shell code injection
  • Able to limit tremendously detection vectors
  • Able to avoid cross detection


2) Engine Expert:

  • Experience with Source, Unreal Engine 4, Unity3D and Virtual Reality
  • Strong experience with Reverse Engineering
  • Mastering Memory Manipulation


I sincerely apologize if this post breaks the rules of the forum.

Thanks you for taking the time to read the offer and have a nice day.

Best Regards,
Vince


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hhhuut
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 5:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could you provide a homepage link to your website or a company name?
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vincedv
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 5:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd rather not communicate our brand name or company name publicly.
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hhhuut
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 5:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Then send me a PM, pls.
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vincedv
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 6:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hhhuut wrote:
Then send me a PM, pls.

I can't PM anyone yet, the forum doesn't allow me.


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akumakuja28
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your gonna get sued. You cant go asking for monetized reimbursement for cheating. aka modifying code that is protected under copyright laws.

Maybe you can Gameshark/Action Replay Got away with it.

This is not a good idea but if you use a crypto currency to pay your "modders" i am up for the challenge. Very Happy

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Zanzer
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's why he doesn't want to post his company. Smile
Be sure to get your money up front!
Can't sue for your illegal wages.
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deleted19776
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay let's cut to the chase. What's your compensation offer range in cash?
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Rydian
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Uh guys, copyright law says nothing about modification. If somebody has a legal copy of some software installed on their machine then they're allowed to modify it on their own machine as they see fit.

Gameshark and AR get away with it because that itself is fine. It's only when they do shady stuff like including copies of licensed game data to bypass whitelists on locked systems that they can get in trouble, and even then they'd get in trouble for that whether it involved cheating or not.

Of course PCs have no such things and cheat tools need no such things in order to run. Don't confuse "what program creators and companies want and feel" with "actual laws".

Of course if this setup is actually distributing pre-patched copies of programs then that'd be an issue...

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://tombraider.tumblr.com/MaterialUsagePolicy

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No Unauthorized Use or Copying: You still have to follow the terms of our software licenses, which means that you cannot modify any of our games without our permission and you cannot copy, reverse engineer, stream, distribute, broadcast or do anything else with the game software which would be in breach of the applicable end-user license.



Mmmm

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Rydian
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

akumakuja28 wrote:
http://tombraider.tumblr.com/MaterialUsagePolicy

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No Unauthorized Use or Copying: You still have to follow the terms of our software licenses, which means that you cannot modify any of our games without our permission and you cannot copy, reverse engineer, stream, distribute, broadcast or do anything else with the game software which would be in breach of the applicable end-user license.



Mmmm
A document on a tumblr page does not a legal contract make.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rydian wrote:
Uh guys, copyright law says nothing about modification.
-Not true. But fair use may apply, depending on purpose. This is more to do about online gaming and adversely impacting potential profits...which could legally expose you.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

@Rydian


The domain is owned by the creators.But just in case.
https://www.activision.com/legal/terms-of-use

Check section 3.

This is just basic user agreement's. This allows the company to sue if someone earns money using parts of thier code.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Terms of Use just gives the owner the right to prevent your use of their product, should they possess the means to enforce that.
Simply breaking the terms of use is not what opens you up to legal troubles.
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vincedv
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 20, 2016 1:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zanzer wrote:
The Terms of Use just gives the owner the right to prevent your use of their product, should they possess the means to enforce that.
Simply breaking the terms of use is not what opens you up to legal troubles.

^ This.
What my company does is completely legal. There is a limit to not reach though.

++METHOS wrote:
Rydian wrote:
Uh guys, copyright law says nothing about modification.
-Not true. But fair use may apply, depending on purpose. This is more to do about online gaming and adversely impacting potential profits...which could legally expose you.

Like METHOS said, when you have hundreds of thousands of customers, the game's company may sue you like we saw with Blizzard against HonorBuddy.
“The Bots created by Enright and his team have caused, and are continuing to cause, massive harm to Blizzard, Blizzard’s business depends upon its games being enjoyable and balanced for players of all skill levels, and Blizzard expends a massive amount of time and money to ensure that this is the case".

The other limit is server sided data. Modifying that is considered as hacking into the game's company servers which is illegal.

In both cases, a law suit is a really long and expensive process, therefore exceptional in the cheating scene.

Waxxup wrote:
Okay let's cut to the chase. What's your compensation offer range in cash?

Depends on the coder's skills, between 1000€ and 1500€ when the software are done and a monthly cut on the sales, around 400-600€ just for updating, debugging and making the cheat undetected again if necessary.
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