I don't know why you wouldn't just link to Alex Jones himself, this guy looks like a faggot.
Alex has a point though. Bernie is claiming to be the "good" version of socialism, AKA Marxism, but Bernie isn't broadcasting Marxism. Bernie is wanting to mix Marxism with America--the world's most powerful military. Marxism + Huge Military = Stalinism.
You make me laugh with how retarded you are every time you post, it's inevitable. You literally believe Bernie is some sort of Marxist.
LMAO.
Don't worry, soon we will all be going to the gulags comrade.
His philosophy and policies perfectly line with Karl Marx. Not only that, but he indentified himself as Marxist several times back in the 60s, in the height of the cold war.
He has said several times that he supports democratic socialism, like what is (very successfully) used in Scandinavia. Not Marxism.
The idea of democracy, and socialism, to republicans is a foreign concept in its entire nature.
You really just turned into an insufferable faggot.
The entire basis of Sanders's campaign is about giving things away for free. It does not work. A $15/hour minimum wage will lead to less jobs - what employer will want to higher more people while being required to pay them more? Almost none, I guarantee it.
You made one post just to call me an insufferable faggot? You haven't been part of this discussion for as long as we've been having it. I guarantee you don't even know his entire plan. Who do you think is better than him? Some Warhawk fascist on the Republican side? Are wars free stuff? Grow the fuck up and realize that they are all bad except for Bernie, at least before you get on my shitlist.
You made one post just to call me an insufferable faggot? You haven't been part of this discussion for as long as we've been having it. I guarantee you don't even know his entire plan. Who do you think is better than him? Some Warhawk fascist on the Republican side? Are wars free stuff? Grow the fuck up and realize that they are all bad except for Bernie, at least before you get on my shitlist.
So nobody new is allowed in discussions? Lol, fuck off. You've shown your true colors. Goodbye.
I don't know why you wouldn't just link to Alex Jones himself, this guy looks like a faggot.
Alex has a point though. Bernie is claiming to be the "good" version of socialism, AKA Marxism, but Bernie isn't broadcasting Marxism. Bernie is wanting to mix Marxism with America--the world's most powerful military. Marxism + Huge Military = Stalinism.
You make me laugh with how retarded you are every time you post, it's inevitable. You literally believe Bernie is some sort of Marxist.
LMAO.
Don't worry, soon we will all be going to the gulags comrade.
His philosophy and policies perfectly line with Karl Marx. Not only that, but he indentified himself as Marxist several times back in the 60s, in the height of the cold war.
He has said several times that he supports democratic socialism, like what is (very successfully) used in Scandinavia. Not Marxism.
The idea of democracy, and socialism, to republicans is a foreign concept in its entire nature.
You really just turned into an insufferable faggot.
The entire basis of Sanders's campaign is about giving things away for free. It does not work. A $15/hour minimum wage will lead to less jobs - what employer will want to higher more people while being required to pay them more? Almost none, I guarantee it.
I have no idea why people who can't afford 40K+ per year tuition enroll in 40K+ per year schools. There are so many good low cost alternatives that it's honestly hard to sympathize with anyone that gets into a 100K student loan debt. I just find it unbelievably irresponsible for an individual to keep accumulating debt, keep spending like there is no tomorrow and now that individual is crying because he is seeing the consequences of his mistakes. And what's worse is that that individual now wants the tax payers (some of which have been VERY responsible with their money) to bail his bitch ass out.
We can spend trillions of dollars on war, and corporate welfare, but as soon as we want to invest in our own citizens, NO THAT'S BAD. QUIT ASKING FOR A DAMN HAND OUT YOU FUCKING COMMIE. We pay in taxes for so much overhead and bullshit, why not get someone who can properly reallocate our tax dollars to do something more useful than spending on warfare?
Dr. Ron Paul (who i respect very much, more than any of you fucking morons) is only right about one thing, it's not free and we pay for it as tax payers.
Joined: 24 Nov 2009 Posts: 48 Location: California
Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2016 6:13 pm Post subject:
Channel GannoK wrote:
We can spend trillions of dollars on war, and corporate welfare, but as soon as we want to invest in our own citizens, NO THAT'S BAD. QUIT ASKING FOR A DAMN HAND OUT YOU FUCKING COMMIE. We pay in taxes for so much overhead and bullshit, why not get someone who can properly reallocate our tax dollars to do something more useful than spending on warfare?
Dr. Ron Paul (who i respect very much, more than any of you fucking morons) is only right about one thing, it's not free and we pay for it as tax payers.
you guys are such retards it's astounding.
Who on the right side and by right side it's really just Trump. So where is your evidence that Trump wants to spend on war? Where is your evidence that he wants to starts wars? He's the only candidate in BOTH republicans and Democrat least likely to start wars. He owns HUGE FUCKING BUILDINGS. Why does he want to start wars? He was against the war in Iraq. He was adamant about that. You think he wants to start a war? You do understand that he's the strongest on the interest of the AMERICAN citizens? He may be cruel to non Americans but that's not his problem. His job title is to protect the American people. He's the only one talking about fixing our CRUMBLING infrastructure. I know you don't get out of your house often but our roads bridges airports schools are fucking shit. We build stadiums in under a year. And it takes us 5 years to remodel schools. You really keep pulling shit out of your ass.
Guess who is the most experienced on budgeting and leveraging debt? Trump. Your only argument against him is that you don't like him but all your stances is everything trump is strong about and he does it much much better than Sanders. At least he has a track record that gets things done. Sanders hasn't done shit. _________________
We can spend trillions of dollars on war, and corporate welfare, but as soon as we want to invest in our own citizens, NO THAT'S BAD. QUIT ASKING FOR A DAMN HAND OUT YOU FUCKING COMMIE. We pay in taxes for so much overhead and bullshit, why not get someone who can properly reallocate our tax dollars to do something more useful than spending on warfare?
Dr. Ron Paul (who i respect very much, more than any of you fucking morons) is only right about one thing, it's not free and we pay for it as tax payers.
you guys are such retards it's astounding.
Who on the right side and by right side it's really just Trump. So where is your evidence that Trump wants to spend on war?\Where is your evidence that he wants to starts wars? He's the only candidate in BOTH republicans and Democrat least likely to start wars. He owns HUGE FUCKING BUILDINGS. Why does he want to start wars? He was against the war in Iraq. He was adamant about that. You think he wants to start a war? You do understand that he's the strongest on the interest of the AMERICAN citizens? He may be cruel to non Americans but that's not his problem. His job title is to protect the American people. He's the only one talking about fixing our CRUMBLING infrastructure. I know you don't get out of your house often but our roads bridges airports schools are fucking shit. We build stadiums in under a year. And it takes us 5 years to remodel schools. You really keep pulling shit out of your ass.
Guess who is the most experienced on budgeting and leveraging debt? Trump. Your only argument against him is that you don't like him but all your stances is everything trump is strong about and he does it much much better than Sanders. At least he has a track record that gets things done. Sanders hasn't done shit.
You tell me what this fucking means you god damn retard. you don't even know what Trump stands for. he wants to INCREASE our military size. is that not more spending on warfare?
Sanders literally voted no on the iraq war, and wants to have a non interventionist military.
Joined: 24 Nov 2009 Posts: 48 Location: California
Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2016 6:58 pm Post subject:
So you think spending money to rebuild our military is a bad idea? Are you really that densed? Do you know how many countries the US has to protect? You know many enemies US has? You know the growing threats of enemies securing their hand around nuclear weapons? Iran just mocked our military:
You think we just let them do that to us? After giving them 150 billion dollars?
We just let our military be weak while Russia spends continuously more on military each year? Do you know theres a crazy lunatic with possibility of nuclear weapons right next door that wants to blow up the US? Security is BEFORE ANYTHING. Im sure your free college is nice kid, but securing our country is much more important. Nobody respects us. Our military is weak. This guy is unbelievable. I'm so fucking glad Kyle will never have a place in politics with that immature thinking.
Oh and btw theres a difference in rebuilding our military for SECURITY. Which Trump has mentioned over and over. To build our military "so strong so that we don't have to use it". Not to build our military so we can attack other countries so we wish to. Stop twisting other people's words like you always do. _________________
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i've had it with your shit. fuck outta here
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The more you speak ignorant rhetoric to the educated, the more unappealing it sounds. Rebuilding our already inflated military is fucking ludicrous at best, ill intent at worst.
If we are honestly going to be taking the Trump route, let's just go full fascist and make isis our slaves before we kill them, because nobody worth actually listening to actually respects what he has to say. the vast majority of Americans are left leaning, because republicans have no good ideas and we are tired of the bush administration and his ideas of perpetual warfare. The republican operations are all about blocking and preventing legislation, promoting warfare, oppressing the middle and lower class, removing regulation, and giving tax cuts to the rich. And you support these guys!
That article you linked is dead so there's that. who gives a fuck about what Iran thinks about our military? they are a bunch of muslims with no moral values, just like saudi arabia and turkey. They are nobodies in the eyes of America. They sure as hell aren't going to attack us anytime soon, why should we even think about attacking them? do you want to start world war 3? all the republican politicians want to, they want to disregard diplomacy and block any chance at a peaceful resolution. What's the only other option then?
Those who sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither.
if you don't want to be a fucking fool, you'd answer all of these points, but you're probably just going to resort to calling me a hippy or something again like it means I'm wrong lmao.
We can spend trillions of dollars on war, and corporate welfare, but as soon as we want to invest in our own citizens, NO THAT'S BAD. QUIT ASKING FOR A DAMN HAND OUT YOU FUCKING COMMIE. We pay in taxes for so much overhead and bullshit, why not get someone who can properly reallocate our tax dollars to do something more useful than spending on warfare?
Dr. Ron Paul (who i respect very much, more than any of you fucking morons) is only right about one thing, it's not free and we pay for it as tax payers.
you guys are such retards it's astounding.
its a very illegal and well known business practice for companies to report buying material that costs a lot more then secretly using cheaper material. _________________
"The flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long"
Joined: 24 Nov 2009 Posts: 48 Location: California
Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2016 7:31 pm Post subject:
Channel GannoK wrote:
The more you you speak ignorant rhetoric to the educated, the more unappealing it sounds. Rebuilding our already inflated military is fucking ludicrous at best, ill intent at worst.
If we are honestly going to be taking the Trump route, let's just go full fascist and make isis our slaves before we kill them, because nobody worth actually listening to actually respects what he has to say. the vast majority of Americans are left leaning, because republicans have no good ideas and we are tired of the bush administration and his ideas of perpetual warfare. The republican operations are all about blocking and preventing legislation, promoting warfare, oppressing the middle and lower class, removing regulation, and giving tax cuts to the rich. And you support these guys!
That article you linked is dead so there's that. who gives a fuck about what Iran thinks about our military? they are a bunch of muslims with no moral values, just like saudi arabia and turkey. They are nobodies in the eyes of America. They sure as hell aren't going to attack us anytime soon, why should we even think about attacking them? do you want to start world war 3?
Those who sacrifice security for liberty deserve neither.
Who is suggesting fascism? Where you come up with that? Your imagination? Who said we'd make ISIS our slaves? Where did Trump suggest that? That's funny because I see him getting all the endorsements from every state he goes to. One if the biggest ones - Phill Ruffins and Carl Icahn. Endorsements from people across the spectrum. Now before you twist my words again, I agree some are pretty weird, but like I said. He gets endorsements from across the board. His voters are across the board. So it would also be ignorant for you to say that EVERY Trump supporters are stupid. Judging by your behavior and how you present yourself and your arguments. There is no way that you are smarter than all of them. He has supporters all across the spectrum as well from people without college educations to people with college educations. From lower income brackets to higher income brackets :
I don't support everything the republicans does and Im sure you dont support everything the Democrats does either. Neither does Trump and you image him as the person who did all these things. Keep in mind Trump is separate from the establishment and he thinks many of the republicans that are in charge now are also incompetent - so you both have those things in common as well.
You answered your own question. For Iran to mock our military like that is unacceptable. It just shows our weakness to the other countries that have power that the Iranians who are weak could capture our men and make a fool of our military to the rest of the world. You think Putin sees this and are in favor of the US? No, he thinks of us as weak when he sees this shit. Again putting words into my mouth and twisting my words. I never said we should attack them. I said we shouldn't let this happen. We got fucked over by the deal we made in Iran. We gave them 150 billion dollars and they turn around and play us like we're a bunch of children. We may not see Iran as anybody. But the REST of the world sees us as incompetent and weak. What does that say to our allies? Our allies don't even respect us. "Oh US military just got captured by Iranians... and they got mocked. We're protected by these fools?" And who said anything about starting WW3? What kind of lala land are you living in? We're building our military to keep us safe and show our dominance that we are not to be trifled with. Not to be a bully.
And great quote! Except you used it out of context. We're not sacrificing liberty for security. Let me play your game. Sacrificing free education for stronger military is not sacrificing liberty for security. _________________
The people who support Trump(and the republican party as a whole) support fascism. They want to KEEP MUSLIMS, an isolated identity, from going in and out of the country. That's fascist. Deporting all illegal immigrants with military force, due process or not, that's fascist. Being a nationalist and militaristic is fascist, we know that Trump WANTS TO MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN. He wants to bring back more torture, which goes against the 8th amendment of our constitution. He also wants to implement more tools for the NSA and government bureaus to "defend" us. they already are doing a terrible job, why give them more funding, that's fucking retarded. Do I really need to continue to explain why he's fascist, or are you going to continue to deny facts, what people say, and defend fascists and fascist ideas? If we are going down the road to fascism, why stop where we are now, let's embrace it fully.
by reacting to Iran, you are showing your weakness. You are mentally weak, reacting to fear mongering by the republican party, and you think they are an actual factor in the world right now, they aren't. It's where the term reactionary comes from.
Also, you and shot are the only ones I've ever seen say that people think we are incompetent and weak, totally unironic that you guys are republican AND Trump supporters. gotta love the rhetoric that you absorb from that retard.
America is the only 1st world nation that doesn't support the idea of free education and healthcare. You're like an old dog trying to keep up with the rest of us who have good ideas.
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Joined: 24 Nov 2009 Posts: 48 Location: California
Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2016 7:57 pm Post subject:
Nice cherry picking buddy. I made one sentence about fascism. 4 words. And you write an entire paragraph about it. Then you pull your dirty old tricks again putting words and twisting words. You're fabricating your arguments to make what you claim appear stronger without any evidence. When you do provide evidence, you do the same thing. Twist and put words. It always happens every time. It's a pattern. And it's getting really old. _________________
No, I'm not cherry picking. I'm pointing out Donald Trumps talking points and explaining why they are fascist. If you support fascism in some points and not completely in others, you're still a fascist and anti freedom. These are all facts and represent what he has said during his campaign, and you are now getting offended because I'm talking about the actual facts and what ideology these ideas belong to. Do you even know what cherry picking is? You can't even argue without shutting down and shutting up, resorting to the level of talix.
EDIT: actually never mind, at least talix can start talking about other things and steer the conversation somewhere else, elaborating his troll.
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