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HitIer · Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 8:53 pm Post subject: Patient rights are human rights

I am calling for action

If patients are entitled to human rights, then, as in America, human rights include the right to bear arms, then I demand that psychiatric patients in facilities for treating violent episodes (ie school shooters) give them their essential liberties, such as the right to bear arms.

Arm the school shooters!

Guns don't kill people, bullets don't either. Blood loss does.

Channel GannoK · pffrt Reputation: 129 Joined: 12 Apr 2008 Posts: 605

The average opinion of your typical American voter, gun restrictions don't save lives from gun violence but having more guns do.

HitIer · Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 9:22 pm Post subject:

Kurifodo · Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 9:52 pm Post subject:

There are the people who think that we'd be more civilized if all guns were removed from society, because a firearm makes it easier for an armed mugger to do his job. That, of course, is only true if the mugger's potential victims are mostly disarmed either by choice or by legislature. The gun is the only personal weapon that puts a 100-pound woman on equal footing with a 220-pound mugger.

Then there's the false argument that the gun makes confrontations lethal that otherwise would only result in injury. Without guns involved, confrontations are won by the physically superior party inflicting overwhelming injury on the loser. People who think that fists, bats, sticks, or stones don't constitute lethal force, watch too much TV, where people take beatings and come out of it with a bloody lip at worst.

Human beings only have two ways to deal with one another: reason and force. If you want me to do something for you, you have a choice of either convincing me via argument, or force me to do your bidding under threat of force. Every human interaction falls into one of those two categories, without exception. When I carry a gun, I don't do so because I am looking for a fight, but because I'm looking to be left alone. The gun at my side means that I cannot be forced, only persuaded. I don't carry it because I'm afraid, but because it enables me to be unafraid. It doesn't limit the actions of those who would interact with me through reason, only the actions of those who would do so by force. It removes force from the equation... and that's why carrying a gun is a civilized act.

deleted19776 · Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 10:07 pm Post subject:

All of this doesn't matter, we all die anyways.

Kurifodo · Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 5:28 pm Post subject:

Damn liberals... :l

Channel GannoK · pffrt Reputation: 129 Joined: 12 Apr 2008 Posts: 605

Republicans are going to be CRYING back for Obama and bush once Bernie Sanders gets into office

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teeigeryuh · Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 10:34 pm Post subject:

>usa
>taking action against their gov

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