| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
emil
Expert Cheater
![]() Reputation: 41
Joined: 06 Dec 2008
Posts: 239
|
 Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 2:40 pm Post subject: kenyaman |
 |
|
| If a man from Kenya was born and raised in your country, so he'd share your culture, religion and dialect, would you consider him to have a different nationality or just a different ethnicity? Is he a kenyaman or not?
|
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
clash of clans hacks
Master Cheater
 Reputation: 63
Joined: 18 Jul 2007
Posts: 368
Location: Remember when we all used to put funny lines here?
|
| Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 4:15 pm Post subject: |
|
|
How's your avatar animated when it's a jpg?
Nationality means where you're from, not where your parents are from.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
atom0s
Moderator
 Reputation: 205
Joined: 25 Jan 2006
Posts: 8587
Location: 127.0.0.1
|
| Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 5:10 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Adnihil wrote: | | How's your avatar animated when it's a jpg? |
The image is just a .gif renamed to .jpg. Your browser interprets the image data from the file itself and not based on the extension.
_________________
- Retired. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
emil
Expert Cheater
![]() Reputation: 41
Joined: 06 Dec 2008
Posts: 239
|
| Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 3:20 am Post subject: |
|
|
| atom0s wrote: | | Adnihil wrote: | | How's your avatar animated when it's a jpg? |
The image is just a .gif renamed to .jpg. Your browser interprets the image data from the file itself and not based on the extension. |
and don't ask me why it is
i suppose nationality is the wrong term to use since the definition of that is literally "the legal relationship between a person and a state". what i'm getting at is whether you'd consider the person 'one of your people'.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
justa_dude
Grandmaster Cheater
 Reputation: 23
Joined: 29 Jun 2010
Posts: 893
|
| Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 7:10 am Post subject: Re: kenyaman |
|
|
| Emil wrote: | | If a man from Kenya was born and raised in your country, so he'd share your culture, religion and dialect, would you consider him to have a different nationality or just a different ethnicity? Is he a kenyaman or not? |
There's so much wrong with this question.... If he was "born and raised" in my country, then how could he be "a man from Kenya?" Did he just take a visit there? Or, are you attempting to describe a person of Kenyan descent? If that's the case, I suppose it depends on your country. Since you refer to this person as "a man from Kenya" because his parents are from Kenya, then you obviously wouldn't consider him a countryman.
Many countries grant citizenship to anyone born within their borders. Many do not. There are places with fairly homogenous people that are quick to adopt those that embrace their culture and there are places with diverse composition that simply don't grant citizenship under any normal circumstances (Norway vs Dubai, for example). I'm from America, which is not only from the first camp but is populated almost entirely by non-native peoples. Here, the man born and raised in my country would be American. End of discussion.
_________________
A nagy kapu mellett, mindig van egy kis kapu.
----------------------
Come on... |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
emil
Expert Cheater
![]() Reputation: 41
Joined: 06 Dec 2008
Posts: 239
|
| Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 1:49 pm Post subject: Re: kenyaman |
|
|
| justa_dude wrote: | | Emil wrote: | | If a man from Kenya was born and raised in your country, so he'd share your culture, religion and dialect, would you consider him to have a different nationality or just a different ethnicity? Is he a kenyaman or not? |
There's so much wrong with this question.... If he was "born and raised" in my country, then how could he be "a man from Kenya?" Did he just take a visit there? Or, are you attempting to describe a person of Kenyan descent? If that's the case, I suppose it depends on your country. Since you refer to this person as "a man from Kenya" because his parents are from Kenya, then you obviously wouldn't consider him a countryman.
Many countries grant citizenship to anyone born within their borders. Many do not. There are places with fairly homogenous people that are quick to adopt those that embrace their culture and there are places with diverse composition that simply don't grant citizenship under any normal circumstances (Norway vs Dubai, for example). I'm from America, which is not only from the first camp but is populated almost entirely by non-native peoples. Here, the man born and raised in my country would be American. End of discussion. |
You have the so-called "politically correct" point of view - same as I do, contrary to your allegations. But yes, a man of Kenyan descent would be a more fitting description. As an American, it would be massively hypocritical of you to believe anything else, but after talking to some people from Turkey, I realized that it definitely isn't a viewpoint shared by all. The premise for my scenario is that the person in question HAS already been granted citizenship. So the question goes: is that enough to be considered a fellow countryman?
I agree that it varies by country. As you pointed out, homogeneity of population seems not to be the deciding factor. Then what is the cause of this difference? It doesn't seem right to call it a matter of progression, or a matter of racism.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
FAQ
Search
Memberlist
Usergroups
Register
Profile
Log in to check your private messages
Log in
