When you talk about your addiction, you talk about it as if it's a disease that's incurable. It feels like you have a defeatist attitude towards it. This might be the reason why you keep going back to it, because you believe you can't stop.
addiction actually fits the disease model. it is widely accepted as a disease. do some research. theres still a lot of debate about it of course and always will be. and no, theres no cure. contratrt to that commerical of passages malibu where the guy says i was an addict for ten years now im not. thats totally false. youre an addict the rest of your life. science has no found a cure for addiction, just like there is no publicly known cure for cancer or other mental health problem like bipolar disorder. there is treatment that needs to be maintained for the rest of your life but no cure.
and no if.youve followed my posts youd know without a doubt that i do NOT believe i am hopeless and i KNOW i can stop. that doesnt mean it will be easy or happen the first several attemps which is common for addicts. it will take time and a lot of effort. but i have no accepted i will be using the rest of my life and i know its possible to stop. why would i put all this effort into quitting if i didnt brlieve on what i was doing?
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 11:01 pm Post subject:
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My business partners little bro od on H. Luckily he lived but his friends left him out to die when he was over dosin. It was a terrible experience
Doesn't sound like your business partner isn't from too good of a family.
doesn't sound like you remotely know what you're talking about. news flash (not really)... addiction does not discriminate. it effects everyone. _________________
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Joined: 23 Apr 2006 Posts: 1757 Location: The Netherlands
Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2015 7:34 am Post subject:
TheIndianGuy wrote:
Aniblaze wrote:
When you talk about your addiction, you talk about it as if it's a disease that's incurable. It feels like you have a defeatist attitude towards it. This might be the reason why you keep going back to it, because you believe you can't stop.
addiction actually fits the disease model. it is widely accepted as a disease. do some research. theres still a lot of debate about it of course and always will be. and no, theres no cure. contratrt to that commerical of passages malibu where the guy says i was an addict for ten years now im not. thats totally false. youre an addict the rest of your life. science has no found a cure for addiction, just like there is no publicly known cure for cancer or other mental health problem like bipolar disorder. there is treatment that needs to be maintained for the rest of your life but no cure.
and no if.youve followed my posts youd know without a doubt that i do NOT believe i am hopeless and i KNOW i can stop. that doesnt mean it will be easy or happen the first several attemps which is common for addicts. it will take time and a lot of effort. but i have no accepted i will be using the rest of my life and i know its possible to stop. why would i put all this effort into quitting if i didnt brlieve on what i was doing?
Since you started off a bit passive aggressive there, I am going to level with you here in a similar negative tone: I consider those who at some point in their life decided sticking a needle with heroin in their arm was a solid plan to be incredible retards. There is no need to do that shit, and peer pressure is such a poor excuse, as it means you were just being a sheep. We all have shit to deal with, and I've had things in my life happen that would, using junkie logic, validate me using harddrugs. Terminally ill mother (Huntington's disease), my dad getting cancer twice (but recovered), the chance of inheriting said diseases, perhaps not being able to start a family because of it, losing 12 other close family members between the age of 10 to 15, being bullied and rejected during highschool due to my ensuing PTSS making me socially inept, failing pretty much all of my classes because I did not care anymore, etc, etc, etc. I could make a longer list but those are the highlights. I've never resorted to drugs or alcohol to deal with my problems. The first time I did drugs was when I was around close friends, because I was curious to what the effect would be (I was 20 at the time). I did it a couple of times, but never did anything that you'd need to inject or snort. Nothing that could be considered physically addictive.
That said, I want to believe in your tenacity to kick this shit, and I truly hope you'll be able to. It just felt like you were victimizing yourself after reading some of your posts (I don't always respond, but I read most of it). And I hate that so goddamn much. It's why I often hate alcoholics, junkies, and fatties (if they have that type of attitude towards their addiction). It's a weakness I'm afraid to ever see in myself.
He can't help it. They drill that stuff into you during the AA/NA-style treatment that he's in. All the way down to mantras and chants and stuff. I doubt he even sees the irony in his belief that addiction is an illness requiring long-term treatment but people with ADD or depression just need to man up. _________________
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Joined: 15 Apr 2011 Posts: 314 Location: P. Sherman 42, Wallaby Way, Sydney
Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2015 8:48 am Post subject:
I know few people that do drugs but they are aware of their actions and some people that don't do drugs but are unaware of their actions. If that helps him to be emotionally stable leave him alone.
its not what they teach. its what i experienced. heroin and xanax literally makes you not give a fuck about ANYTHING. you dont care about consequences. it has nothing to do woth intelligence or how smart you are. i was aware of what i was doing part of the time. other part of the time i was in a blackout every day for three years. it literally hurts my brain to think back on that three year period because i only remember brief flashes of that time. rational thinking goes out the window. these are not thinks i learned in aa. these are things i learned through experience. something you guys lack. never once did i include peer pressure as a reason. im not justifying any of my actions because of the drugs. that doesnt make anything i did ok. also i did not care whether i lived or died at that point in my life. why would i care about sticking a needle of heroin or meth in my arm? and i didnt start drugs with a needle of heroin. it was a progression of five years before i touched heroin and another six months before a needle. there have bewn many recovering addicts and alcoholics that have gone through divorce, death of parents, loss of jobs, house etc. in sobriety but they were able to stay sober. i didnt use drugs for any logical reason to begin with. i didnt have any shitty situations in my life. i am just sick in the head.
and the reason i say that and believe this is a lifelong process is because no matter how long an alcoholic or addict stays sober the moment i take another drink or drug through personal experience and countless experiences of others that have had 10-20 years sober the moment i or they have taken another drink or drug they cant control it. maybe it wont happen right away, maybe a week or a month later theyre right back to where they were in their addiction. in my experience every time ive tried to control my drinking and drug use i find myself drinking every day, smoking weed every day, meth, heroin, xanax, whatever the substance im doing it everyday and eeventually if its not heroin the high is lackluster and im chasing the heroin high bit not getting what i want and eventually say fuck it and go back to heroin. same for others. ive met people with 5-20 years sober that relapsed and started drinking wveryday and within six months where right back where they were before they got sober. so yeh it never goes away. once you pass the line of addiction and alcoholism its basically the point of no return. your only options are to not use any mind altering substances at all or be using all day everyday without control. _________________
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