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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2014 1:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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no, someone like me cannot just "use on weekends." it's either every waking moment or not at all. and part of me wants to continue using. the obsession to use is way too strong when you're an addict. once you cross that line of addiction you never go back no matter how long you abstain. no matter how hard you try to control it. it won't last long.
thats bullshit ive been addicted to tons of shit and i recovered


not an addict to the degree i am. or probably not an addict at all if you can use with control and no consequences. a normal person that has serious consequences as a result of their drug use will stop. an addict will keep using. and you haven't recovered. you still use drugs.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2014 1:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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do you know anyone who overcame heroin addiction?
yes


wos talking to indianguy

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2014 1:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dire Wolf Alpha wrote:
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no, someone like me cannot just "use on weekends." it's either every waking moment or not at all. and part of me wants to continue using. the obsession to use is way too strong when you're an addict. once you cross that line of addiction you never go back no matter how long you abstain. no matter how hard you try to control it. it won't last long.
thats bullshit ive been addicted to tons of shit and i recovered
heroin is like nothing else, theres literally 0 reason to not just use heroin until you die, its basically torture to not use it
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2014 1:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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do you know anyone who overcame heroin addiction?


yeh very few people but i know some. most of those people had to go through like 20-30 years of addiction, lots of prison time, losing literally everything, being like 50 years old. don't know anyone my age that has successfully for more than a year.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2014 1:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Its called moderation
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2014 1:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Its called moderation


no, you clearly don't know what you're talking about. if it was that simple there would be no such thing as all those addicts and alcoholics out there desperate to stop.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2014 1:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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do you know anyone who overcame heroin addiction?


yeh very few people but i know some. most of those people had to go through like 20-30 years of addiction, lots of prison time, losing literally everything, being like 50 years old. don't know anyone my age that has successfully for more than a year.
thats because the people who can moderate their use keep it a secret
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2014 1:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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do you know anyone who overcame heroin addiction?


yeh very few people but i know some. most of those people had to go through like 20-30 years of addiction, lots of prison time, losing literally everything, being like 50 years old. don't know anyone my age that has successfully for more than a year.


talk to them ask them how they did it and model them if you are serious about overcoming addiction.
you go to a forum where people take drugs like how kids are eating candies now after halloween regardless if youre actually looking for advise or not.

i like to keep my life simple. if I want something and I dont know how to get it, I just simply find a person who has what I want and ask them how they did it.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2014 1:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

it's pointless trying to convince you when you're not an addict yourself. there's simply no way you can truly understand. and it's blatantly obvious that you don't. any addict that thinks they can control their use is fooling no one but themselves.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2014 1:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Antagonist wrote:
do you know anyone who overcame heroin addiction?


yeh very few people but i know some. most of those people had to go through like 20-30 years of addiction, lots of prison time, losing literally everything, being like 50 years old. don't know anyone my age that has successfully for more than a year.


talk to them ask them how they did it and model them if you are serious about overcoming addiction.
you go to a forum where people take drugs like how kids are eating candies now after halloween regardless if youre actually looking for advise or not.

i like to keep my life simple. if I want something and I dont know how to get it, I just simply find a person who has what I want and ask them how they did it.
or you could just google how to do it
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it's pointless trying to convince you when you're not an addict yourself. there's simply no way you can truly understand. and it's blatantly obvious that you don't. any addict that thinks they can control their use is fooling no one but themselves.
all im saying is youre probly week minded. were done talking
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2014 1:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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do you know anyone who overcame heroin addiction?


yeh very few people but i know some. most of those people had to go through like 20-30 years of addiction, lots of prison time, losing literally everything, being like 50 years old. don't know anyone my age that has successfully for more than a year.


talk to them ask them how they did it and model them if you are serious about overcoming addiction.
you go to a forum where people take drugs like how kids are eating candies now after halloween regardless if youre actually looking for advise or not.

i like to keep my life simple. if I want something and I dont know how to get it, I just simply find a person who has what I want and ask them how they did it.


i know how they did it and i'm doing the same things. it just isn't working for me because i honestly don't feel i've gone through "enough" to stop. i can still endure more pain as a result of my using. i don't know how much more that is. until i have gone through "enough" where the consequences of using outweight the high i will never stop no matter how bad i want to.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2014 1:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheIndianGuy wrote:
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TheIndianGuy wrote:
Antagonist wrote:
do you know anyone who overcame heroin addiction?


yeh very few people but i know some. most of those people had to go through like 20-30 years of addiction, lots of prison time, losing literally everything, being like 50 years old. don't know anyone my age that has successfully for more than a year.


talk to them ask them how they did it and model them if you are serious about overcoming addiction.
you go to a forum where people take drugs like how kids are eating candies now after halloween regardless if youre actually looking for advise or not.

i like to keep my life simple. if I want something and I dont know how to get it, I just simply find a person who has what I want and ask them how they did it.


i know how they did it and i'm doing the same things. it just isn't working for me because i honestly don't feel i've gone through "enough" to stop. i can still endure more pain as a result of my using. i don't know how much more that is. until i have gone through "enough" where the consequences of using outweight the high i will never stop no matter how bad i want to.


I know what you mean, I've seen one of Jordan Belfort (Wolf of Wallstreet guy) seminar. He said change is quick and easy, the hard part is feeling enough pain to actually decide to change. But I think you should get rid of the mindset that you need more destruction in your life to fully commit.

I dont know your life man or what youve done to help yourself. but at least youre trying to change unlike most people. just look at the positives and dont focus too much on the negatives. but dont be so positive that you become delusional of reality.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2014 2:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

when you say something incorrect about addiction and then say we're done talking you can't expect me to not respond. i can't resist.

it has nothing to do with being weak minded/strong minded, smart/stupid, etc. you don't know what you're talking about. please stop spreading false information on something you couldn't possibly ever understand.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2014 2:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheIndianGuy wrote:
Antagonist wrote:
TheIndianGuy wrote:
Antagonist wrote:
do you know anyone who overcame heroin addiction?


yeh very few people but i know some. most of those people had to go through like 20-30 years of addiction, lots of prison time, losing literally everything, being like 50 years old. don't know anyone my age that has successfully for more than a year.


talk to them ask them how they did it and model them if you are serious about overcoming addiction.
you go to a forum where people take drugs like how kids are eating candies now after halloween regardless if youre actually looking for advise or not.

i like to keep my life simple. if I want something and I dont know how to get it, I just simply find a person who has what I want and ask them how they did it.


i know how they did it and i'm doing the same things. it just isn't working for me because i honestly don't feel i've gone through "enough" to stop. i can still endure more pain as a result of my using. i don't know how much more that is. until i have gone through "enough" where the consequences of using outweight the high i will never stop no matter how bad i want to.
thats why im saying all or nothing bruh, instead of wasting 20 years to get it over with , do it all now, you may die, but your time wont be wasted
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