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Might and Magic Heroes VI, can't change value permanently
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blacktrance
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 11:24 pm    Post subject: Might and Magic Heroes VI, can't change value permanently Reply with quote

Trying to modify the amount of gold I have in a scenario, and I think I found the value where it's stored, but when I change it, it changes back to its old value immediately. I've already tried disconnecting from the internet, the problem persists. I have the latest version from Steam, with all the DLC and expansions.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The resources are encrypted with a simple XOR instruction. At least that's how it was in the early versions (I have deleted the game long ago). Look at the table that was made by Recifense.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 11:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That table doesn't have a way to change gold. Is there a way to do it directly using Cheat Engine?
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 4:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can scan for changed/unchanged values and you will find it.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found the changed value, but when I try to change it, it changes back. That's the problem.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

blacktrance wrote:
I found the changed value

Geri is telling you, that you've to search for another value.
Use the scan type "Changed/Unchanged" value to find the XORed REAL value of your gold. You cant change your found value, because it always becomes recalculated with the REAL XORed value...
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are very many changed values. How do I find the right one?
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Experiment with them. Change the values, freeze them, see what happens. If you have found the one that is used for the gold, you have your value.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are hundreds of changed values. That's not very helpful.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 2:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try to compare with your first scan.
Let me say you start scanning with Unknown Initial Value and your displayed gold value is50. Then spent some money scan for changed... do a few rescans with unchanged vvalue sometimes... then play the game a little and get back your amount of gold you had while started scanning and the scan with unchanged value compared to your first scan. This often minimizes your addresses nicely Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tried that. I still have a huge number of addresses where the value is the same.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

blacktrance wrote:
There are hundreds of changed values. That's not very helpful.


I have found it that way when I have made cheats for the game. Patience is necessary for this kind of stuff. If you don't have patience for it, better give up on game hacking.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 1:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not looking to pursue game hacking as a hobby, I only want to change the resource values, but if it's this difficult, I might as well not bother.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 2:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

blacktrance wrote:
if it's this difficult, I might as well not bother.


That's why they have encrypted the value. To make it harder to find it. It's anti-cheat.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 2:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

blacktrance wrote:
if it's this difficult, I might as well not bother.

My ambition would raise to maximum, to beat this games anti-cheat Razz Smile In such cases, you have to provide ambition and patience to gather all required information, to build a trainer Smile
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