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packrat
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 5:34 pm    Post subject: Trainer protection Reply with quote

Not sure if this is the place to ask this, but how do you protect your game trainer from being Reverse ?




thanks for any help.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

- Packer
- Obfuscator
- Encryptor

And so on. Regardless, every commercial protection has been defeated.
Attempting to protect your trainer is a losing battle.

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packrat
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about some kind of script that loads a dummy trainer that as the
real one .
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

packrat wrote:
What about some kind of script that loads a dummy trainer that as the
real one .


Regardless the user will have the real script/trainer on their machine so it will be obtainable.

Feel free to pm me a trainer that you protect with any custom stuff of your own and I'll show you if its secure or not.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 4:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could it be loaded from a web server ?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 5:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

packrat wrote:
Could it be loaded from a web server ?


It can be but its still obtainable to get from the main executable after its loaded, as well as network monitoring can dump the stream sending the trainer data.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 22, 2013 6:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My recommendation would be - skip protection.

Don't take me wrong but your cheat tables and code aren't that important or unique for anyone to put a massive amount of effort in stealing them. To be honest, all cheat tables are now available to everyone. This site for example offers everything in that regard. "And what about my code?" I'm almost certain that there's nothing that you've coded that any other trainer coder can't do.

I've stopped protecting my trainers because of the reasons above.

In the old times I was "protected" against reversers/spies/thieves by packing and encrypting my Exe-file. I also killed every application and debugger who tried to spy on my trainer, and in a last resort i terminated my trainer upon suspicious activities and much more. For no reason, and no use. Also, if anyone is smart enough to reverse your application and understand the reversed code then they are also capable of coding their own trainer.
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