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[Monkeys]

Anyone who's more in touch with the 'meta', past and present, know why AD/Support mid + AP carry bot isn't done?

The support would have quite a bit of place to roam, so ganking supports like Ali, leona and blitzcrank would be awesome. Yeah, your AP carry won't have that much room to move/gank if he's overpushed, but with a roaming support, that shouldn't be too detrimental.

This wouldn't work too well for AP carries like Eve and Kat, who gank top and bot often, but should be good for champs like Karthus.

[[SPW]Killamoocow]

we've tried this time and time again in r5s. the ap carry ends up getting zoned like crazy, and midlane becomes a really big & easy gank target, since you generally have 2 squishy heroes without escapes in mid. Works a little bit better if you have a strong 1v2 bruiser bot lane and put your ap carry top, but there are still some problems with the strategy. Depends on what champions you can get your hands on and the enemy's teamcomp really. I'm sure there's a way to make it work though.

If you watched CLG NA in the NA regionals before s2 championships, they did something similar, but they were running a push comp. they put sivir/sona bot lane at first, and then transitioned them into mid lane to keep pushing towers down. They won that game, but it was a bit cheesy.

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dignitas did something similar
ez/support mid or something

really risky due to mid being prone to ganks often

[elpacco]

How is mid more prone to ganks that way? Bot lane is so hard to gank because there's a person down there who's job is to ward. And supports like Ali/blitz/janna are known for being good at stopping ganks. Plus lots of AD carries have escapes. I don't see how putting support+ad carry mid lane makes them any more prone to ganks at all. If anything it would make it easier to gank the AP carry at the bottom.

The big problem with this comp is the other thing KMC mentioned which is that the bot lane AP carry ends up getting zoned hard. Now pros can make it work just because they're so damn good at farming but even so their farm is usually lower than it would be if they were in mid lane and they still gave up a kill or two sometimes.

Running lane switches is about attrition. It hurts both teams, but the idea is that you planned it and picked champions specific for it, so it's going to hurt the other team more. Sure lots of times the bot lane AP carry didn't do well, but the mid lane AP carry on the other team did even worse.

[Antagonist]

The reason why AP is mid is because AP Carry is the most important role in the game. They get the most farm in mid as a solo lane + has control of blue/red/baron/dragon. If they were to go bot, it would limit their potential.

Because they are mid, their job is to farm as much as possible and roam whenever they can. Helping other lane win.

ADC are generally with support because they require baby sitting. They'll get crushed in a solo lane vs. a bruiser/ap carry.

[Monkeys]

True, AP carries are the masters of the laning phase, so having them close to the objectives should be done.
But a support plus carry can give quite a bit of protection too, right?

Another thing I noticed is that the ap carry will have to be someone who stays in lane long, due to the long walk. So I guess morg would be perfect.

Morg bot, Ez/Cait/Corki(/Vayne vs skillshots) + aggressive support mid. I'm gonna try this.

[Antagonist]

[AverageAzn247]

[Kargarok]

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[Antagonist]

[puresick]

The mid lane gets creep the fastest too.

[AverageAzn247]

main reason is lack of wraith income causes mid to fall behind along with the fact most mids suck 1v2