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Barnold Swolezzenegger
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hero wrote:
Apotheoun wrote:
Cryoma wrote:
Actually my mobo only supports ddr2 LOL.
I guess I'll be getting a mobo instead of headphones.
Question: If I get a new AM3+ mobo, will I still be able to use my AM2+ phenom I?
Or will I have to upgrade my cpu also?
And would a zambezi or vishera be a good budget choice for under $200?
AM3+ is compatible with AM3/AM3+ only. The choice for CPU is up to you. In your price range you have the 8150 and 8320. The 8320 is $10 cheaper but somewhere between 5-10% faster than the 8150. Not a noticeable difference, but a slight increase.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6396/the-vishera-review-amd-fx8350-fx8320-fx6300-and-fx4300-tested
Try 30 bucks cheaper bro. The prices are off. 8320 is 179.99 and the 8350 is 219.99. The 8350 stock is on par with the i7 3770k. I would go with the 6300 or stick to a phenom II x4 965. The 8350 really excels at multithreading but is still hindered by single threading apps.

As far as motherboards go, stick with 900+ chipset. 970/980/990

I said 8320 and 8150, didn't mention 8350 because it's out of his budget.
And the 8350 is hardly on par by any means.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/697?vs=551

I'd agree with the 965 over 8320 because the difference in performance between the two isn't worth $80.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/102?vs=698
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 12:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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This is too confusing, my budget for a cpu is $150-$300, but the more I spend on a cpu the less I have for a gpu/more I wait for a gpu.
If I'm buying an fx shouldn't I get the 8350?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apotheoun wrote:
Hero wrote:
Apotheoun wrote:
Cryoma wrote:
Actually my mobo only supports ddr2 LOL.
I guess I'll be getting a mobo instead of headphones.
Question: If I get a new AM3+ mobo, will I still be able to use my AM2+ phenom I?
Or will I have to upgrade my cpu also?
And would a zambezi or vishera be a good budget choice for under $200?
AM3+ is compatible with AM3/AM3+ only. The choice for CPU is up to you. In your price range you have the 8150 and 8320. The 8320 is $10 cheaper but somewhere between 5-10% faster than the 8150. Not a noticeable difference, but a slight increase.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6396/the-vishera-review-amd-fx8350-fx8320-fx6300-and-fx4300-tested
Try 30 bucks cheaper bro. The prices are off. 8320 is 179.99 and the 8350 is 219.99. The 8350 stock is on par with the i7 3770k. I would go with the 6300 or stick to a phenom II x4 965. The 8350 really excels at multithreading but is still hindered by single threading apps.

As far as motherboards go, stick with 900+ chipset. 970/980/990

I said 8320 and 8150, didn't mention 8350 because it's out of his budget.
And the 8350 is hardly on par by any means.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/697?vs=551

I'd agree with the 965 over 8320 because the difference in performance between the two isn't worth $80.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/102?vs=698
HAHAHAHA, I love when idiots like you, use this shit. That aint even real benches, its fucking theory.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fx-8350-vishera-review,3328-10.html

As you can see the fails it has are in single thread. But where its multi threading, its on par. Remember as far as a pc thinks, both the i7 and 8350 are quad cores with 8 logical, 4 physical.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hero wrote:
Apotheoun wrote:
Hero wrote:
Apotheoun wrote:
Cryoma wrote:
Actually my mobo only supports ddr2 LOL.
I guess I'll be getting a mobo instead of headphones.
Question: If I get a new AM3+ mobo, will I still be able to use my AM2+ phenom I?
Or will I have to upgrade my cpu also?
And would a zambezi or vishera be a good budget choice for under $200?
AM3+ is compatible with AM3/AM3+ only. The choice for CPU is up to you. In your price range you have the 8150 and 8320. The 8320 is $10 cheaper but somewhere between 5-10% faster than the 8150. Not a noticeable difference, but a slight increase.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6396/the-vishera-review-amd-fx8350-fx8320-fx6300-and-fx4300-tested
Try 30 bucks cheaper bro. The prices are off. 8320 is 179.99 and the 8350 is 219.99. The 8350 stock is on par with the i7 3770k. I would go with the 6300 or stick to a phenom II x4 965. The 8350 really excels at multithreading but is still hindered by single threading apps.

As far as motherboards go, stick with 900+ chipset. 970/980/990

I said 8320 and 8150, didn't mention 8350 because it's out of his budget.
And the 8350 is hardly on par by any means.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/697?vs=551

I'd agree with the 965 over 8320 because the difference in performance between the two isn't worth $80.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/102?vs=698
HAHAHAHA, I love when idiots like you, use this shit. That aint even real benches, its fucking theory.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fx-8350-vishera-review,3328-10.html

As you can see the fails it has are in single thread. But where its multi threading, its on par. Remember as far as a pc thinks, both the i7 and 8350 are quad cores with 8 logical, 4 physical.

That link you provided proves you wrong. :\ In most tests the 3770k beats it handily with only a few where its close. I'd hardly call it on par when last generation i7s still beat it in quite a few benches. Get your fanboyism out of this. AMD hasn't been on par with Intel since Athlon days. Intel repeatedly blows AMD out of the water every generation.

Back at OP, get an 8150. Saves you money for more GPU and is more than enough for modern games/applications.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks but since I'm putting the gpu off for a while I might as well splurge on an 8350, I'll be keeping it under load 24/7 and I'd rather keep it stock than oc.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apotheoun wrote:
Hero wrote:
Apotheoun wrote:
Hero wrote:
Apotheoun wrote:
Cryoma wrote:
Actually my mobo only supports ddr2 LOL.
I guess I'll be getting a mobo instead of headphones.
Question: If I get a new AM3+ mobo, will I still be able to use my AM2+ phenom I?
Or will I have to upgrade my cpu also?
And would a zambezi or vishera be a good budget choice for under $200?
AM3+ is compatible with AM3/AM3+ only. The choice for CPU is up to you. In your price range you have the 8150 and 8320. The 8320 is $10 cheaper but somewhere between 5-10% faster than the 8150. Not a noticeable difference, but a slight increase.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6396/the-vishera-review-amd-fx8350-fx8320-fx6300-and-fx4300-tested
Try 30 bucks cheaper bro. The prices are off. 8320 is 179.99 and the 8350 is 219.99. The 8350 stock is on par with the i7 3770k. I would go with the 6300 or stick to a phenom II x4 965. The 8350 really excels at multithreading but is still hindered by single threading apps.

As far as motherboards go, stick with 900+ chipset. 970/980/990

I said 8320 and 8150, didn't mention 8350 because it's out of his budget.
And the 8350 is hardly on par by any means.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/697?vs=551

I'd agree with the 965 over 8320 because the difference in performance between the two isn't worth $80.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/102?vs=698
HAHAHAHA, I love when idiots like you, use this shit. That aint even real benches, its fucking theory.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fx-8350-vishera-review,3328-10.html

As you can see the fails it has are in single thread. But where its multi threading, its on par. Remember as far as a pc thinks, both the i7 and 8350 are quad cores with 8 logical, 4 physical.

That link you provided proves you wrong. :\ In most tests the 3770k beats it handily with only a few where its close. I'd hardly call it on par when last generation i7s still beat it in quite a few benches. Get your fanboyism out of this. AMD hasn't been on par with Intel since Athlon days. Intel repeatedly blows AMD out of the water every generation.

Back at OP, get an 8150. Saves you money for more GPU and is more than enough for modern games/applications.


You did not even read anything I said. I said on par, as in close in performance. I never said intel did not do better. Yet another bias intel faggot.

OH OP GET THE 8150, ITS ONLY 20 DOLLARS MORE THAN THE 8320 AND PERFORMS 20% LESS!

Yea, good call buddy, good call.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hero wrote:
Apotheoun wrote:
Hero wrote:
Apotheoun wrote:
Hero wrote:
Apotheoun wrote:
Cryoma wrote:
Actually my mobo only supports ddr2 LOL.
I guess I'll be getting a mobo instead of headphones.
Question: If I get a new AM3+ mobo, will I still be able to use my AM2+ phenom I?
Or will I have to upgrade my cpu also?
And would a zambezi or vishera be a good budget choice for under $200?
AM3+ is compatible with AM3/AM3+ only. The choice for CPU is up to you. In your price range you have the 8150 and 8320. The 8320 is $10 cheaper but somewhere between 5-10% faster than the 8150. Not a noticeable difference, but a slight increase.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6396/the-vishera-review-amd-fx8350-fx8320-fx6300-and-fx4300-tested
Try 30 bucks cheaper bro. The prices are off. 8320 is 179.99 and the 8350 is 219.99. The 8350 stock is on par with the i7 3770k. I would go with the 6300 or stick to a phenom II x4 965. The 8350 really excels at multithreading but is still hindered by single threading apps.

As far as motherboards go, stick with 900+ chipset. 970/980/990

I said 8320 and 8150, didn't mention 8350 because it's out of his budget.
And the 8350 is hardly on par by any means.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/697?vs=551

I'd agree with the 965 over 8320 because the difference in performance between the two isn't worth $80.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/102?vs=698
HAHAHAHA, I love when idiots like you, use this shit. That aint even real benches, its fucking theory.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fx-8350-vishera-review,3328-10.html

As you can see the fails it has are in single thread. But where its multi threading, its on par. Remember as far as a pc thinks, both the i7 and 8350 are quad cores with 8 logical, 4 physical.

That link you provided proves you wrong. :\ In most tests the 3770k beats it handily with only a few where its close. I'd hardly call it on par when last generation i7s still beat it in quite a few benches. Get your fanboyism out of this. AMD hasn't been on par with Intel since Athlon days. Intel repeatedly blows AMD out of the water every generation.

Back at OP, get an 8150. Saves you money for more GPU and is more than enough for modern games/applications.


You did not even read anything I said. I said on par, as in close in performance. I never said intel did not do better. Yet another bias intel faggot.

OH OP GET THE 8150, ITS ONLY 20 DOLLARS MORE THAN THE 8320 AND PERFORMS 20% LESS!

Yea, good call buddy, good call.
My bad, 8320 is the one that's cheaper. Keep be buttfrustrated that AMD doesn't perform anywhere close to Intel and keep saying it's price/performance that matters while I run whatever I want without a hiccup because I buy the better product. I'm not a fanboy of either and will go for whatever is faster at the time I upgrade. If AMD were to ever put out a chip that's faster than Intel's current generation, I'd buy it. But it hasn't happened for years. The same goes for Nvidia and AMD. It's whatever is fastest at the time. As it's been for the last 3 generations of Intel CPUs, they have beaten AMD handily every time and the price difference is worth the performance difference. I'm sorry you can't afford the better product, but you don't lie about a product to justify your shitty purchase. The 8350 isn't close enough to justify buying it over the 3770k. Simple as that.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apotheoun wrote:
Hero wrote:
Apotheoun wrote:
Hero wrote:
Apotheoun wrote:
Hero wrote:
Apotheoun wrote:
Cryoma wrote:
Actually my mobo only supports ddr2 LOL.
I guess I'll be getting a mobo instead of headphones.
Question: If I get a new AM3+ mobo, will I still be able to use my AM2+ phenom I?
Or will I have to upgrade my cpu also?
And would a zambezi or vishera be a good budget choice for under $200?
AM3+ is compatible with AM3/AM3+ only. The choice for CPU is up to you. In your price range you have the 8150 and 8320. The 8320 is $10 cheaper but somewhere between 5-10% faster than the 8150. Not a noticeable difference, but a slight increase.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6396/the-vishera-review-amd-fx8350-fx8320-fx6300-and-fx4300-tested
Try 30 bucks cheaper bro. The prices are off. 8320 is 179.99 and the 8350 is 219.99. The 8350 stock is on par with the i7 3770k. I would go with the 6300 or stick to a phenom II x4 965. The 8350 really excels at multithreading but is still hindered by single threading apps.

As far as motherboards go, stick with 900+ chipset. 970/980/990

I said 8320 and 8150, didn't mention 8350 because it's out of his budget.
And the 8350 is hardly on par by any means.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/697?vs=551

I'd agree with the 965 over 8320 because the difference in performance between the two isn't worth $80.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/102?vs=698
HAHAHAHA, I love when idiots like you, use this shit. That aint even real benches, its fucking theory.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fx-8350-vishera-review,3328-10.html

As you can see the fails it has are in single thread. But where its multi threading, its on par. Remember as far as a pc thinks, both the i7 and 8350 are quad cores with 8 logical, 4 physical.

That link you provided proves you wrong. :\ In most tests the 3770k beats it handily with only a few where its close. I'd hardly call it on par when last generation i7s still beat it in quite a few benches. Get your fanboyism out of this. AMD hasn't been on par with Intel since Athlon days. Intel repeatedly blows AMD out of the water every generation.

Back at OP, get an 8150. Saves you money for more GPU and is more than enough for modern games/applications.


You did not even read anything I said. I said on par, as in close in performance. I never said intel did not do better. Yet another bias intel faggot.

OH OP GET THE 8150, ITS ONLY 20 DOLLARS MORE THAN THE 8320 AND PERFORMS 20% LESS!

Yea, good call buddy, good call.
My bad, 8320 is the one that's cheaper. Keep be buttfrustrated that AMD doesn't perform anywhere close to Intel and keep saying it's price/performance that matters while I run whatever I want without a hiccup because I buy the better product. I'm not a fanboy of either and will go for whatever is faster at the time I upgrade. If AMD were to ever put out a chip that's faster than Intel's current generation, I'd buy it. But it hasn't happened for years. The same goes for Nvidia and AMD. It's whatever is fastest at the time. As it's been for the last 3 generations of Intel CPUs, they have beaten AMD handily every time and the price difference is worth the performance difference. I'm sorry you can't afford the better product, but you don't lie about a product to justify your shitty purchase. The 8350 isn't close enough to justify buying it over the 3770k. Simple as that.
The 3770k isn't fast enough to justify a hundred dollars more. Stay buttmad jewtel.
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