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sneakerhead
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 11:16 am Post subject:

lolno, Nunu's the fastest jungle. He has a built in smite. _________________ add me on League @ hiphopusa

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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 4:24 pm Post subject:

shhhhheeeeeeeeiiiitt wrote:

lolno, Nunu's the fastest jungle.
He has a built in smite.

Not sure if trolling or...
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 4:24 pm Post subject:

Butters wrote:

Shen is the only hero I would say that actually needs a nerf, he is just that strong (and always will be as long as Stand United is Global).

I agree. I think they should just make it have a long range like TF or noc, but completely global is a little breaking I think because there's absolutely no good way to defend against a splitpush with him. If it had a range, you'd see teams having to coordinate their distance. They wouldn't be able to have Shen top and the rest of the team bot, letting Shen push into the inhibitor while the entire team defends the other one. If you send one or two guys up to fight Shen, he'll either ult bot lane leaving your bot lane team at a disadvantage, or he'll just run. Either one allows bot lane to pressure the turret better.

There just needs to be SOMETHING you can do against it, because currently there's nothing except to initiate right away, which can be a horrible decision most of the time.
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What is the best way for a lv19 Soldier to solo Sledge on Borderlands?

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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 4:45 pm Post subject:

elpacco wrote:

Butters wrote:

Shen is the only hero I would say that actually needs a nerf, he is just that strong (and always will be as long as Stand United is Global).

The counterplay to top lane Shen is to shove his wave and take his tower and take top map control when he ults away in laning phase. He's not unbeatable in lane, either (that's not to say he isn't really fucking gay to lane against). In that respect, something can be done. Jungle Shen is where the problem arises, because he has super strong ganks, a shield to keep his health up in the jungle, a global ult post 6 and you don't know where the fuck Shen is. He loses nothing in the jungle because half way through the laning phase you can just defer the jungle to your mid laner for more farm anyway and start split pushing for victory whilst your team forces unfavorable fights elsewhere.

Even with all that being said, they won't take the Global off his ult any time soon. He's the only person with one now, but I think it just defines Shen. They need to make some of earlier game weaker to balance him out and make sure that he can't just roflstomp his lane or sustain completely against every matchup. That way he'll have to make a decision on whether or not to ult away, because he won't necessarily be in a good position to do so (ie. he'd lose top vs other matchups, but that never happens because his kit is just too good right now).

I love playing Shen though oh my god, he's so unbelievably faceroll.

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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 5:25 pm Post subject:

Butters wrote:

elpacco wrote:

Butters wrote:

Shen is the only hero I would say that actually needs a nerf, he is just that strong (and always will be as long as Stand United is Global).

I know what you mean. Ezreal is kind of the same way. He's slightly overpowered right now (really his mana costs are too low), but I wish Riot wasn't going to nerf him because he's just so much fun to play right now. What I really, REALLY want them to do is to buff AP ezreal. I want AP ezreal to be a viable pick in soloqueue.

But that'll never happen.
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 5:34 pm Post subject:

elpacco wrote:

Butters wrote:

elpacco wrote:

Butters wrote:

Shen is the only hero I would say that actually needs a nerf, he is just that strong (and always will be as long as Stand United is Global).

Ezreal is fucking hilarious to play, I rushed 1500 elo before my net disconnected just playing Ezreal for like 10 games, getting absurd KDAs every game. Problem I have is that Ezreal hasn't been changed in forever, it's just his relative strength in comparison to other AD carries has gone up and the playstyle of AD Carry has changed into a much more shielded role, where the best escapes are rewarded more frequently by allowing the carry to live the teamfight for maximum DPS (Ezreal blink outspeeds Malphite ult, can be timed perfectly to dodge blitz hook, and can create HUGE distance instantly in combination with Flash - See: Maokai's twisted advance can potentially go very badly early game vs Ezreal because he can be back at his tower instantly).

Idk, I play what are considered lesser AD Carries as well (Caitlyn, Varus, Vayne) and I usually just end up outskilling people and keeping really good CS which carries me through the transitions of early, mid and late game. People also seem to think that you can't punish Ezreals as hard as they can punish you, but it's not even hard. The game is a poke war from the second the minions hit each other in the bot lane, Caitlyn and Varus destroy Ezreal in poke and Vayne just needs a BT in order to all in Ezreal effectively post 6 (of course for allins you'll need to know his escapes are down or you can follow up with your flash or whatever, it's all situational).

That's just because I've never found Ezreal that much of a problem though and he hasn't changed since I started playing a long time ago.

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He's just one of those heros I destroy as when I play and can destroy with the correct alteration of gameplay on other carries. Also, support is key. Most important factor is how your support plays.

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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 5:56 pm Post subject:

Is it just me or is Darius fucking OP? _________________

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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 6:02 pm Post subject:

Ruffled wrote:

Is it just me or is Darius fucking OP?

countered by kayle and jayce. Teemo too if you're rainman.

Hes just pubstomp.

Easily kited and has no escape. Just shut his farm early and hell be forced to buy gp5 or hell be far behind. Even then hell still be behind and does 0 damage.

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I think if they nerf ezreals early game which is currently very strong, he'll suck so muçh because he'd be like shaco. They nerfed shacos early game which was all he had. He's still strong but he need incredible amount of snowballs and if you fuck up once then its hard to catch back up.

I think what they should do is buff his ability to farm then nerf early game harass and his anti-carry ability.[l
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 6:07 pm Post subject:

Butters wrote:

(Ezreal blink outspeeds Malphite ult, can be timed perfectly to dodge blitz hook, and can create HUGE distance instantly in combination with Flash - See: Maokai's twisted advance can potentially go very badly early game vs Ezreal because he can be back at his tower instantly).

fyi arcane shift can escape rocket grab
like you can get caught but just flash out and laugh

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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 6:09 pm Post subject:

xYashii wrote:

Butters wrote:

fyi arcane shift can escape rocket grab
like you can get caught but just flash out and laugh

Yeah thats what I meant, even if it hits you if it's timed right it'll get away. Fast blink 2stronk.

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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 6:12 pm Post subject:

Butters wrote:

xYashii wrote:

Butters wrote:

fyi arcane shift can escape rocket grab
like you can get caught but just flash out and laugh

Yeah thats what I meant, even if it hits you if it's timed right it'll get away. Fast blink 2stronk.

ezreal fucking great dude

also lmao bt or ie on ez
just picked him up recently and idk wat do

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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 6:19 pm Post subject:

ezrael china's hero #1

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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 6:21 pm Post subject:

Triforce 1st item most of the time, Phage&Sheen amps damage and sets everything up perfectly. I've been playing Triforce IE Ezreal recently and its been going well. Triforce BT is good as well though. IE+PD build is dependent on how you want to play him. Both are very good. I used to do this sometimes as well: http://puu.sh/1fC7M Rush Phage then build standard (IE, PD, LW). It gives you the damage from IE build and some utility from Triforce build.

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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 6:22 pm Post subject:

xYashii wrote:

Butters wrote:

xYashii wrote:

Butters wrote:

fyi arcane shift can escape rocket grab
like you can get caught but just flash out and laugh

Yeah thats what I meant, even if it hits you if it's timed right it'll get away. Fast blink 2stronk.

ezreal fucking great dude

also lmao bt or ie on ez
just picked him up recently and idk wat do

That's a good build. It's more common to go Triforce>BT>LW>IE, but you can flip around IE and BT. And then when the other team has strong initiates and gap closers or your team sucks at peeling for you, get Triforce>GA and then the rest.

And Darius isn't OP at all, you just have to not suck. Sure if you feed him he'll carry the game.
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 6:24 pm Post subject:

Butters wrote:

Triforce 1st item most of the time, Phage&Sheen amps damage and sets everything up perfectly. I've been playing Triforce IE Ezreal recently and its been going well. Triforce BT is good as well though.

IE+PD build is dependent on how you want to play him. Both are very good.

I used to do this sometimes as well:
http://puu.sh/1fC7M

Rush Phage then build standard (IE, PD, LW). It gives you the damage from IE build and some utility from Triforce build.

dat 4v5 hypercarry

my current build is

boots3, rush phage, pick up a vamp scepter and zerker's whenever possible, build trinity, ie, LW / BT
don't really touch phantom dancer; ezreal's passive gives enough aspeed imo

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