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SILENT_SUFFERER
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 7:17 am    Post subject: help building advanced trainers for games Reply with quote

Hi I know enough about hacking for basic games so I can make a basic trainer however I want to make more advanced trainers for games like the ones listed below of someone could help me please
•Command & Conquer 3 Tiberium Wars
•Dawn of War
•Age of Empires III The Warchiefs

Any help will be appreciated
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 7:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cheat engine comes with trainer maker feture ...
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 7:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's not exactly my problem. My problem is finding some of the addresses for some of the things like in cnc3tw I want to have instant build, in dawn of war I can find the requisition freeze it in ce but I can't patch it in tsearch and last but not least I am trying to find the addreses where the resources are stored
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I, the noob, can even answer this.

Do what I did and cycle through the data types for your resources. Like in Company of Heroes, the resources were stored as floats. (It might be the same for DoW because Relic made that game too)
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

At the moment I'm more concerned about cnc3tw. I can't seam to make the built time unlimited I have tried searching for it but I end up with lots of values not just one also I can't seam to hack the resources in aoe3x I have looked all values got ntn at all
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 9:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

it's up to you to find the addresses ...
that's "basically" what trainer making is.
and forget about tsearch, use cheat engine instead, it's more powerful and comes with advanced features as well as very simply basic ones.
tip: data in the game is stored in one place ...
that means from address x to address x+100 or +y there's stored all info about some player or character or whatever.

for example x=ammo, x+1=max ammo, x+2=accuracy, etc

use data dissector to find a data structure ...

i'm saying that if you can't find the address that holds the speed of construction, it may be simpler to find something else about that and then use data dissector to find the rest about that same thing. wich would be construction speed

another tip:
health tip. ... but it can be applyed to everyting else as well
health can be displayed 100 ... and the value of the address that holds the health could be 150
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as your health decreases you may think that the value decreases too;
-- in some games, taking damage, could be an increase
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general tip:
if you can't find anything
try every data type possible from byte to double.
if you find too much
add the first 50 addresses to the table, freeze them all, and see in the game if it affects the wanted value; then in thoose 50 pick the first 10 ... then 5 ... then one by one
pay attention :: freezing many many addresses, could result into a game crash, so be pacient an pick like 50 max 100 addresses per time.

if you want more, be specific ...
it's an address that holds the health of the player, i only see a progress bar that decreases each time they shoot me, i can heal using ...

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just would like to find out from somebody who has already hacked the games how they went about finding the addresses. I am sometimes inpatient and verry persistant at the same time so if I need to find it I will but I need to be guided in the right direction by somebody who knows more than I do
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