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King Chezzmo
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:00 pm    Post subject: I think you can solve this. Reply with quote

It's 2011.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You don't owe them both $49

You owe one of them $49 if you keep one dollar.

49 + 50 = 99
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Derpy wrote:
You don't owe them both $49

You owe one of them $49 if you keep one dollar.

49 + 50 = 99
you give them both $1, and you keep $1. so you owe them both $49
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is no missing dollar. You paid 97 for the shirt, and retain 3, with a debt of 50 to each. When you pay them back a dollar each, you now owe them 49 an 49, with a dollar to yourself. That means that you have spent 99 of the 100 USD, as you retained a dollar.

Borrow 100
Spend 97
Pay back 2 USD
Owe 98

98 already includes the dollar you kept. The trick there was it counted the dollar you kept as separate, and added it to your debt, when in truth, it was already part of it.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brolock wrote:
Derpy wrote:
You don't owe them both $49

You owe one of them $49 if you keep one dollar.

49 + 50 = 99
you give them both $1, and you keep $1. so you owe them both $49


Either way the money didn't 'go' anywhere. You spend the 97 dollars and you gave and give each parent 1 dollar and keep one dollar yourself, equaling 100 dollars. You owed each parent the 49 dollars, a total of $98 and you payed each of them $1

98 + 2 = 100

If you had paid the dollar you kept for yourself back to your parents then you would have owned them 97 dollars.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aviar³ wrote:
There is no missing dollar. You paid 97 for the shirt, and retain 3, with a debt of 50 to each. When you pay them back a dollar each, you now owe them 49 an 49, with a dollar to yourself. That means that you have spent 99 of the 100 USD, as you retained a dollar.

Borrow 100
Spend 97
Pay back 2 USD
Owe 98

98 already includes the dollar you kept.
98+1 =99
where is the last dollar to make it 100?

derpy youre an idiot
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brolock wrote:
Aviar³ wrote:
There is no missing dollar. You paid 97 for the shirt, and retain 3, with a debt of 50 to each. When you pay them back a dollar each, you now owe them 49 an 49, with a dollar to yourself. That means that you have spent 99 of the 100 USD, as you retained a dollar.

Borrow 100
Spend 97
Pay back 2 USD
Owe 98

98 already includes the dollar you kept.
98+1 =99
where is the last dollar to make it 100?

derpy youre an idiot



Why do you add one, when your debt is 98 including your dollar? Add the two dollars you paid back, and it makes it 100.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The catch is that the 3 dollars wasn't used in the purchase, so it doesn't factor into the math. If you group the 2 parents together to get 100(and you can do this by simple math rules) then subtracted the 3 dollars, you have a debt of 97, the cost of the shirt. In the image, you correctly subtracting the 3 dollars from the debt, but then you are retaining a dollar and wrongly ADDING it to the debts instead of subtracting it. You're trying to get a final answer of 97, not a final answer of 100.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The images math is fine, its a riddle not a math problem
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brolock wrote:
The images math is fine, its a riddle not a math problem


Reread what I put

There is actually something wrong with the image,or rather it's purposely misleading you, and it is a riddle.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brolock wrote:
Aviar³ wrote:
There is no missing dollar. You paid 97 for the shirt, and retain 3, with a debt of 50 to each. When you pay them back a dollar each, you now owe them 49 an 49, with a dollar to yourself. That means that you have spent 99 of the 100 USD, as you retained a dollar.

Borrow 100
Spend 97
Pay back 2 USD
Owe 98

98 already includes the dollar you kept.
98+1 =99
where is the last dollar to make it 100?

derpy youre an idiot


You're right, I am an idiot.

I accidentally said 'owned' and not 'owed'

Otherwise everything I said was correct, and you are simply upset.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kazekeil wrote:
The catch is that the 3 dollars wasn't used in the purchase, so it doesn't factor into the math. If you group the 2 parents together to get 100(and you can do this by simple math rules) then subtracted the 3 dollars, you have a debt of 97, the cost of the shirt. In the image, you correctly subtracting the 3 dollars from the debt, but then you are retaining a dollar and wrongly ADDING it to the debts instead of subtracting it. You're trying to get a final answer of 97, not a final answer of 100.


You spend 97, sure, and you keep three. Then return 2, and keep 1. That adds up to one hundred. From the point of view of debt, you always owed 100 (until returning two, whereupon your debt falls to 49 each, but you essentially returned a portion of the same money lent), even after paying 97. People think economics instead of physical material. Thus, all it does is cause a human to become confused by using an economic model of thought, when the question is never about economy to begin with, simply physical existence.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BUT
WHAT HAPPENED TO THE OTHER DOLLAR
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it is as simple as this

100 -50 -50 = 0

- 97 + 97 + 100 -50 - 50 = 0

3 -50 - 50 + 97 = 0

1 -49 - 49 + 97 = 0
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Coldie ;] wrote:
BUT
WHAT HAPPENED TO THE OTHER DOLLAR


Its your dollar.

You purchase the shirt for 97, then return two, thats 99. You keep one, thats one hundred.

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