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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 7:09 pm    Post subject: Madreds on Vayne Reply with quote

Thoughts?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unless you're stacking attack speed, I think there are better items.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

no point
you already deal true damage
u mught as well get some AD to boost your damage output and a couple AS items and survival
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 1:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

you already do %hp dmg so its not worth it
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 4:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've only bought it on Vayne once when there were 3 tank deeps on enemy team. Most of the time it isn't worth it though.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 5:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not worth it. Vayne has a built in madreds. The thing a lot of people seem to think is that Madreds works well against tanks, but in reality, it's only good against squishies. You have to take into consideration that tanks will be building resistance items, squishies will not. Madreds deals magic damage. I remember someone doing the math on it before, but either way, it's really not worth it on vayne. It's much more worth it getting B.F. sword items since they will actually help you deal more damage with your Q.

i literally just woke up, so if this doesn't make sense, i have no fucking clue

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 7:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[SPW]Killamoocow wrote:
It's not worth it. Vayne has a built in madreds. The thing a lot of people seem to think is that Madreds works well against tanks, but in reality, it's only good against squishies. You have to take into consideration that tanks will be building resistance items, squishies will not. Madreds deals magic damage. I remember someone doing the math on it before, but either way, it's really not worth it on vayne. It's much more worth it getting B.F. sword items since they will actually help you deal more damage with your Q.

i literally just woke up, so if this doesn't make sense, i have no fucking clue

3k hp
4% hp
120 dmg


1k hp
4% hp
40 dmg

How is it effective against squishies?
I'd rather buy an IE or a Bloodthirster

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 7:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SGL wrote:
[SPW]Killamoocow wrote:
It's not worth it. Vayne has a built in madreds. The thing a lot of people seem to think is that Madreds works well against tanks, but in reality, it's only good against squishies. You have to take into consideration that tanks will be building resistance items, squishies will not. Madreds deals magic damage. I remember someone doing the math on it before, but either way, it's really not worth it on vayne. It's much more worth it getting B.F. sword items since they will actually help you deal more damage with your Q.

i literally just woke up, so if this doesn't make sense, i have no fucking clue

3k hp
4% hp
120 dmg


1k hp
4% hp
40 dmg

How is it effective against squishies?
I'd rather buy an IE or a Bloodthirster


It's magic damage, tanks will get magic resist. that 4% will be 2% or even less.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 7:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And then there was Wit's End.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bisa wrote:
SGL wrote:
[SPW]Killamoocow wrote:
It's not worth it. Vayne has a built in madreds. The thing a lot of people seem to think is that Madreds works well against tanks, but in reality, it's only good against squishies. You have to take into consideration that tanks will be building resistance items, squishies will not. Madreds deals magic damage. I remember someone doing the math on it before, but either way, it's really not worth it on vayne. It's much more worth it getting B.F. sword items since they will actually help you deal more damage with your Q.

i literally just woke up, so if this doesn't make sense, i have no fucking clue

3k hp
4% hp
120 dmg


1k hp
4% hp
40 dmg

How is it effective against squishies?
I'd rather buy an IE or a Bloodthirster


It's magic damage, tanks will get magic resist. that 4% will be 2% or even less.

>they get mdef
>you deal both magic and physical dmg
mmmk

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 8:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always get it on Vayne and it's worked quite well for me.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 9:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SGL wrote:
Bisa wrote:
SGL wrote:
[SPW]Killamoocow wrote:
It's not worth it. Vayne has a built in madreds. The thing a lot of people seem to think is that Madreds works well against tanks, but in reality, it's only good against squishies. You have to take into consideration that tanks will be building resistance items, squishies will not. Madreds deals magic damage. I remember someone doing the math on it before, but either way, it's really not worth it on vayne. It's much more worth it getting B.F. sword items since they will actually help you deal more damage with your Q.

i literally just woke up, so if this doesn't make sense, i have no fucking clue

3k hp
4% hp
120 dmg


1k hp
4% hp
40 dmg

How is it effective against squishies?
I'd rather buy an IE or a Bloodthirster


It's magic damage, tanks will get magic resist. that 4% will be 2% or even less.

>they get mdef
>you deal both magic and physical dmg
mmmk
Niko are you just acting retarded? =/
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SGL wrote:
Bisa wrote:
SGL wrote:
[SPW]Killamoocow wrote:
It's not worth it. Vayne has a built in madreds. The thing a lot of people seem to think is that Madreds works well against tanks, but in reality, it's only good against squishies. You have to take into consideration that tanks will be building resistance items, squishies will not. Madreds deals magic damage. I remember someone doing the math on it before, but either way, it's really not worth it on vayne. It's much more worth it getting B.F. sword items since they will actually help you deal more damage with your Q.

i literally just woke up, so if this doesn't make sense, i have no fucking clue

3k hp
4% hp
120 dmg


1k hp
4% hp
40 dmg

How is it effective against squishies?
I'd rather buy an IE or a Bloodthirster


It's magic damage, tanks will get magic resist. that 4% will be 2% or even less.

>they get mdef
>you deal both magic and physical dmg
mmmk
Magic resist mitigates 1-2% of the damage from Madreds, making it less effective.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Butters wrote:
SGL wrote:
Bisa wrote:
SGL wrote:
[SPW]Killamoocow wrote:
It's not worth it. Vayne has a built in madreds. The thing a lot of people seem to think is that Madreds works well against tanks, but in reality, it's only good against squishies. You have to take into consideration that tanks will be building resistance items, squishies will not. Madreds deals magic damage. I remember someone doing the math on it before, but either way, it's really not worth it on vayne. It's much more worth it getting B.F. sword items since they will actually help you deal more damage with your Q.

i literally just woke up, so if this doesn't make sense, i have no fucking clue

3k hp
4% hp
120 dmg


1k hp
4% hp
40 dmg

How is it effective against squishies?
I'd rather buy an IE or a Bloodthirster


It's magic damage, tanks will get magic resist. that 4% will be 2% or even less.

>they get mdef
>you deal both magic and physical dmg
mmmk
Magic resist mitigates 1-2% of the damage from Madreds, making it less effective.

Of course it's less effective, but the item is worth it.
You don't only deal lets round it up to 2% off 3k hp, 60 magic damage, you also get 30 attack damage, 40% attack speed and 25 armor.
That's 90~ damage from a single item, plus AS and Armor.

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