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[Questions] Turn a Leecher Into a Hacker

 
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SpoonFed
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 1:21 pm    Post subject: [Questions] Turn a Leecher Into a Hacker Reply with quote

Ok, Ive got a lot of questions, so take a deep breath and release. Smile

First I want you to know that I'm trying to become a hacker instead of what I currently am, A leecher. I took the time out to try to write this as detailed a

For one how do I take the tutorial after Ive already selected the option not to?

How Do I Know what byte to search in? (4 byte, 2 byte, Float, etc)

How Do i know whether to click what writes to, reads from, or accesses this address?

Once I find what writes to, reads from, or acesses this address what do i do with that short sequence of code?

How do I know what To tick/modify (ZF, CF, EAX:______, etc.)?

How do I find the AOB of Addy and how much of that AOB do i Put in to come back up with that address?

Where are some good VERY VERY DETAILED guides/tutorials for complete newcomers to ASM/hacking?


Well that's all I could think of at the moment. but If i Find more Ill just edit this thread.If you have any tips about hacking that you would care to share please do. And IF POSSIBLE if some Veteran/experienced hacker wouldn't mind helping me out by teaching me I would gladly appreciate it.


If you have a messenger, (preferably yahoo, but MSN is ok) Please PM me it and I would love to chat and be taught one-one about it without the hassle of waiting for a post/reply to come back. <------- THIS VERY HELPFUL AND APPRECIATED. I will not waste your time I promise. I am very dedicated and can follow directions very well.

Thanks for taking the time to read this. Hope you can Help.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay, first things first, the tutorial is in the same folder as cheat engine, just follow the shortcut.

If you want help just add me on MSN but remember that i'll only add you to help on hacking. my email+MSN is [email protected] in case you haven't noticed yet.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay Thank you So much for taking the time to read my post and again for taking me under your wing. Im downloading MSN messenger as we speak Ill Add you and IM you once Its done.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh by the way, its [email protected] sorry, my 'G' key tends to skip. just add me when you got the download
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 4:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If anyone else would like to help, do apply. Hopefully someone could fill the gap that me and sven's timezone difference cause.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 9:40 am    Post subject: Re: [Questions] Turn a Leecher Into a Hacker Reply with quote

SpoonFed wrote:
For one how do I take the tutorial after Ive already selected the option not to?

There's another .exe supplied when you installed CE, namely Tutorial.exe, which starts the tutorial Smile
if that doesn't work, you can always 'reset' CE with ceregreset.exe, which makes it seem like you completely reïnstalled it.

SpoonFed wrote:

How Do I Know what byte to search in? (4 byte, 2 byte, Float, etc)

Most of the time you don't. It'll take searching in several types before you'll find the correct type, but the All search makes it easier nowadays :]
The type represents in what kind of variable it's stored, so looking at the value should also give you a hint in what to scan.
Eg: 0.115 will probably be stored in a Float or a Double, but will never be stored in a 4 byte variable.
While 100 will probably be stored in a 4 byte, or even a 2 byte.
12558223.06566 is 99% of the time a Double, considering it's size.

SpoonFed wrote:

How Do i know whether to click what writes to, reads from, or accesses this address?

That depends on what you want to do with the address Smile
If you want to find the pointer, you're best of what Writes to the address, because that's what the pointer does basicly.
Accesses = write + read
And read is often used to see what other variables are influenced by that variable, or to search for some checks (programmers sometimes add checks to see if a value isn't changed by someone like us Wink )
SpoonFed wrote:

Once I find what writes to, reads from, or acesses this address what do i do with that short sequence of code?

You analyze it, you circumvent/NOP (replace with empty code)/rewrite it.

SpoonFed wrote:

How do I know what To tick/modify (ZF, CF, EAX:______, etc.)?

You need to know what you want the following code to do.
For example, if you have
Code:
CMP EAX, [EBP+8]
JE breakdown

and you want to prevent the breakdown jump, you'll need to change the compare so it's not equal. Thus you'll need to tick the Zeroflag(ZF) twice (that way the jump will think the values were different, because you didn't get a 0 after the compare)

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How do I find the AOB of Addy and how much of that AOB do i Put in to come back up with that address?

AOB? :s If you mean static adress, or base adress, you'll do a pointer search, which is in the CE tutorial.

SpoonFed wrote:
Where are some good VERY VERY DETAILED guides/tutorials for complete newcomers to ASM/hacking?

First of all, do the CE tutorial, if you have problems with that, look in these forums for tutorials on it Wink
After that, I'd suggest looking into Assembly on its own, so you get to know the language, and thus are able to get around in it.
And by then you'll have plenty of things ready to be learned waiting on a pile next to you ^-^



Sorry for the late reply, I kinda didn't see this thread. I'm always there to help people when trying to learn the ways of the NOT-A-LEECHER. :]

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 2:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol
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