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PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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look if you want a PS3 you will only get a FEW good features like free PS3 internet play and some kickass graphics BUT the 360 has ALOT better games and it has pretty awesome graphics and pretty awesome play, also the 360 IS reliable but you have to pay for xboxlive which sucks balls



xbox306>ps3


The only main difference between the graphics on the 360 and the PS3, is that the 360 does not have anti-aliasing.

Also, saying it has a lot better games is impossible, seeing as it is completely up to opinion.


Wrong! The graphics of PS3 are better because the 7 cores working (7/8 are used) compared to the 3 the 360 has will make the graphics better. You've obviously not played both to see the difference


CPU cores has nothing to do with graphical ability, only physics, and having them doesn't mean they're utilized.


Your absolutely right, but they help run the graphics smoother (hardware wise I believe) and having 8 cores for a ps3, doesn't mean much because it only uses 7 (at all times), while the 360 uses 3.


Even if it were the case that the CPU cores were used to help in rendering, which isn't the case, you're comparing apples to oranges. You're completely ignoring factors such as IPC, clock frequency, inter-core efficiency, etc. The "cores" in the Cell aren't even full-fledged cores in the first place. The Cell is great for scientific applications, but in the case of a gaming console I believe the 360's PPC architecture is superior.

You make it sound like having less cores makes it slower, when in fact with current coding methods and slow adoption of multi-threading, a few faster cores will come out faster than a bunch of slow ones.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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360 is for shitty people who pay 100 bucks a year to play,
With a 100 bucks i would rather buy killzone 2 and have 40 bucks left,
Go for ps3 it doesnt break like shitbox pleasefixme


100 Bucks? It's like 30 bucks for 13 months, don't know what you're taking about, but that's a day of work for 13 months.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

slasha888 wrote:
360 is for shitty people who pay 100 bucks a year to play,
With a 100 bucks i would rather buy killzone 2 and have 40 bucks left,
Go for ps3 it doesnt break like shitbox pleasefixme

I'm pretty sure xbox live is 50 dollars for 12 or 13 months. Fucking dumb cunt.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PS3 runs fine with me
TBH one thing I dont like about it is, the touch sensative power on

It turned on once, and didn't play for like a week and it was on that whole time

But since when it's idle and doesn't heat up as much (didn't notice because it was so quiet, till one night I was sleeping and saw a blue light on the PS3 xD)

So yeah, I also leave it off If I'm downloading Games and DLC from the PSN Store

Judging on replies, people can't run 360 the same way ps3 can

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheetah wrote:
Hassanity wrote:
Cheetah wrote:
Hassanity wrote:
Xionasis wrote:
HeliosLion wrote:
look if you want a PS3 you will only get a FEW good features like free PS3 internet play and some kickass graphics BUT the 360 has ALOT better games and it has pretty awesome graphics and pretty awesome play, also the 360 IS reliable but you have to pay for xboxlive which sucks balls



xbox306>ps3


The only main difference between the graphics on the 360 and the PS3, is that the 360 does not have anti-aliasing.

Also, saying it has a lot better games is impossible, seeing as it is completely up to opinion.


Wrong! The graphics of PS3 are better because the 7 cores working (7/8 are used) compared to the 3 the 360 has will make the graphics better. You've obviously not played both to see the difference


CPU cores has nothing to do with graphical ability, only physics, and having them doesn't mean they're utilized.


Your absolutely right, but they help run the graphics smoother (hardware wise I believe) and having 8 cores for a ps3, doesn't mean much because it only uses 7 (at all times), while the 360 uses 3.


Even if it were the case that the CPU cores were used to help in rendering, which isn't the case, you're comparing apples to oranges. You're completely ignoring factors such as IPC, clock frequency, inter-core efficiency, etc. The "cores" in the Cell aren't even full-fledged cores in the first place. The Cell is great for scientific applications, but in the case of a gaming console I believe the 360's PPC architecture is superior.

You make it sound like having less cores makes it slower, when in fact with current coding methods and slow adoption of multi-threading, a few faster cores will come out faster than a bunch of slow ones.


Uhm, I have no clue what you just said (2nd paragraph) if it has any relationship comparing a PS3 to a 360. Sorry buddy, but your comparing something else their. 1 PS3 core is superior( if you want me to put it like that -.-) then 1 360 core. 7 PS3 Cores would then be more then twice as superior as 3 360 cores. I know the 360 does have a future (stronger, but still 3 core to match 3 of the PS3's cores), but it still won't be enough to beat the PS3.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

halomasterce wrote:
PS3 runs fine with me
TBH one thing I dont like about it is, the touch sensative power on

It turned on once, and didn't play for like a week and it was on that whole time

But since when it's idle and doesn't heat up as much (didn't notice because it was so quiet, till one night I was sleeping and saw a blue light on the PS3 xD)

So yeah, I also leave it off If I'm downloading Games and DLC from the PSN Store

Judging on replies, people can't run 360 the same way ps3 can

Elaborate..

You can turn the 360 off and download demos and shit at the same time.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stupid Reggin wrote:
halomasterce wrote:
PS3 runs fine with me
TBH one thing I dont like about it is, the touch sensative power on

It turned on once, and didn't play for like a week and it was on that whole time

But since when it's idle and doesn't heat up as much (didn't notice because it was so quiet, till one night I was sleeping and saw a blue light on the PS3 xD)

So yeah, I also leave it off If I'm downloading Games and DLC from the PSN Store

Judging on replies, people can't run 360 the same way ps3 can

Elaborate..

You can turn the 360 off and download demos and shit at the same time.


Background download I assume, also, you can physicaly turn the PS3 or the 360 off and download demos at that time.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK well it depends. PS3 cost less in the overall run because you have to pay for Xbox360 to actually play online. PS# (im pretty sure) you dont
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hassanity wrote:
Cheetah wrote:
Hassanity wrote:
Cheetah wrote:
Hassanity wrote:
Xionasis wrote:
HeliosLion wrote:
look if you want a PS3 you will only get a FEW good features like free PS3 internet play and some kickass graphics BUT the 360 has ALOT better games and it has pretty awesome graphics and pretty awesome play, also the 360 IS reliable but you have to pay for xboxlive which sucks balls



xbox306>ps3


The only main difference between the graphics on the 360 and the PS3, is that the 360 does not have anti-aliasing.

Also, saying it has a lot better games is impossible, seeing as it is completely up to opinion.


Wrong! The graphics of PS3 are better because the 7 cores working (7/8 are used) compared to the 3 the 360 has will make the graphics better. You've obviously not played both to see the difference


CPU cores has nothing to do with graphical ability, only physics, and having them doesn't mean they're utilized.


Your absolutely right, but they help run the graphics smoother (hardware wise I believe) and having 8 cores for a ps3, doesn't mean much because it only uses 7 (at all times), while the 360 uses 3.


Even if it were the case that the CPU cores were used to help in rendering, which isn't the case, you're comparing apples to oranges. You're completely ignoring factors such as IPC, clock frequency, inter-core efficiency, etc. The "cores" in the Cell aren't even full-fledged cores in the first place. The Cell is great for scientific applications, but in the case of a gaming console I believe the 360's PPC architecture is superior.

You make it sound like having less cores makes it slower, when in fact with current coding methods and slow adoption of multi-threading, a few faster cores will come out faster than a bunch of slow ones.


Uhm, I have no clue what you just said (2nd paragraph) if it has any relationship comparing a PS3 to a 360. Sorry buddy, but your comparing something else their. 1 PS3 core is superior( if you want me to put it like that -.-) then 1 360 core. 7 PS3 Cores would then be more then twice as superior as 3 360 cores. I know the 360 does have a future (stronger, but still 3 core to match 3 of the PS3's cores), but it still won't be enough to beat the PS3.


Just because you don't understand something and got in over your head in a discussion, doesn't mean I'm "talking about something else there." There's more at play than just "LULZ 7 IS MORE THAN 3 SO IT'S BETTER."

One Xenon core is far superior to a Cell core, they're not even in the same league. I'm curious of your source that states otherwise.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 3:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PS3 FTL, good graphics, no good games

360 is awesome, crashes, elite should be good though, good graphics, great games.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 3:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jinchuuriki1 wrote:
PS3 FTL, good graphics, no good games

360 is awesome, crashes, elite should be good though, good graphics, great games.

Another simple minded statement that the PS3 has no good games >.>
Killzone 2 is bomb as hell.

But I would say go with the 360 I have one and I honestly am fine with it. People here are putting down the 360 due to the whole TROD. Guess what ya dumb asses? You send it into M$ and you get a fix'd one. Shocked O yes folks M$ is not gunna leave you standing because they fucked up. Another thing is people bitching about how loud it is. If you can seriously hear the fan over the sound turn the fucking TV up.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 3:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also, RRoD should not be used in anymore arguments - hopefully what Microsoft has announced is true:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/gamesblog/2008/jun/12/thexbox360rrodsolvedmicro

http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/01/xbox-360-red-ring-of-death-problems-finally-solved/

Multiple sources for this information, just use google. Microsoft announced that they fixed the hardware problem. Hopefully, they aren't bullshitting, and we no longer have to see the red rings.

This probably has been announced, considering how no one on the past page even stated anything to do with the hardware malfunctions. Lol.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 3:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Also, RRoD should not be used in anymore arguments - hopefully what Microsoft has announced is true:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/gamesblog/2008/jun/12/thexbox360rrodsolvedmicro

http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/01/xbox-360-red-ring-of-death-problems-finally-solved/

Multiple sources for this information, just use google. Microsoft announced that they fixed the hardware problem. Hopefully, they aren't bullshitting, and we no longer have to see the red rings.

This probably has been announced, considering how no one on the past page even stated anything to do with the hardware malfunctions. Lol.

Finally someone with their shit straight. >.<

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 4:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gameplay vs performance and quality. Up to you.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 5:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheetah wrote:
Hassanity wrote:
Cheetah wrote:
Hassanity wrote:
Cheetah wrote:
Hassanity wrote:
Xionasis wrote:
HeliosLion wrote:
look if you want a PS3 you will only get a FEW good features like free PS3 internet play and some kickass graphics BUT the 360 has ALOT better games and it has pretty awesome graphics and pretty awesome play, also the 360 IS reliable but you have to pay for xboxlive which sucks balls



xbox306>ps3


The only main difference between the graphics on the 360 and the PS3, is that the 360 does not have anti-aliasing.

Also, saying it has a lot better games is impossible, seeing as it is completely up to opinion.


Wrong! The graphics of PS3 are better because the 7 cores working (7/8 are used) compared to the 3 the 360 has will make the graphics better. You've obviously not played both to see the difference


CPU cores has nothing to do with graphical ability, only physics, and having them doesn't mean they're utilized.


Your absolutely right, but they help run the graphics smoother (hardware wise I believe) and having 8 cores for a ps3, doesn't mean much because it only uses 7 (at all times), while the 360 uses 3.


Even if it were the case that the CPU cores were used to help in rendering, which isn't the case, you're comparing apples to oranges. You're completely ignoring factors such as IPC, clock frequency, inter-core efficiency, etc. The "cores" in the Cell aren't even full-fledged cores in the first place. The Cell is great for scientific applications, but in the case of a gaming console I believe the 360's PPC architecture is superior.

You make it sound like having less cores makes it slower, when in fact with current coding methods and slow adoption of multi-threading, a few faster cores will come out faster than a bunch of slow ones.


Uhm, I have no clue what you just said (2nd paragraph) if it has any relationship comparing a PS3 to a 360. Sorry buddy, but your comparing something else their. 1 PS3 core is superior( if you want me to put it like that -.-) then 1 360 core. 7 PS3 Cores would then be more then twice as superior as 3 360 cores. I know the 360 does have a future (stronger, but still 3 core to match 3 of the PS3's cores), but it still won't be enough to beat the PS3.


Just because you don't understand something and got in over your head in a discussion, doesn't mean I'm "talking about something else there." There's more at play than just "LULZ 7 IS MORE THAN 3 SO IT'S BETTER."

One Xenon core is far superior to a Cell core, they're not even in the same league. I'm curious of your source that states otherwise.


That happens in general, but not ALL Xenon cores are superior than ALL Cell cores. Obviously microsoft did not get the strongest Xenon cores, and the Cores that Sony are using are much stronger each. Now stop this arguement, it's pointless as Microsoft nor Sony gave every single detail about their cores (however I do believe that most information we both have found, is third party)

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