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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 7:05 pm    Post subject: ASM for begginers? Reply with quote

I'm willing to learn how to use ASM, if anyone could give me a good begginners site, or something like that. That would be great, Thanks.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well here is one site with loads of tut's on Arrow http://win32asm.cjb.net/

you can get the masm32 compiler from the link to hutch's site,


most asm tutorial writers tend to write for peoples who have at least a basic understanding of some higher level language so that they dont have to go over the nuts and bolts of how programs are built up,
that way they can just get on with showing the reader how to understand asm,
so you need to try C or C++ or some other language to use these tut's

heres some links Arrow http://www.bloodshed.net/c/index.html

you can get a c compiler from here

Arrow http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/dev-cpp/devcpp-4.9.9.2_setup.exe


one thing though that does annoy me a little bit, I see quite often people moaning about not getting instant answers to their questions,
well just about all the asm and C++ I know I found for myself through google or books and cd's I bought, and also all over this forum other people and myself have already posted links to asm and other language websites,
so please dont be so quick to complain if you dont get an answer to something that has already been answered many times before




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PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thank you for the links, sorry for asking. I did attempt searching for the asm guides, i only found sorcere's begginer asm, and google is very hard to understand i'm sorry Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was not having a go at you actually,
there are a couple of deleted posts here that were moaning about not getting answers that I was talking about,
you did nothing wrong at all you just asked for links to tutorials so you could learn yourself,
if fact I'm sorry the posts were deleted and you thought I was having a go at you Confused

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They posted a good article on the Cheat Engine Tutorials section:

http://forum.cheatengine.org/viewtopic.php?t=31434

After reading/understanding this you will be able to understand all the "hard stuff" on internet. And your right,, google sucks in search results for asm, all the tutorials doesn't start at the begging but you just jump in the middle of it. So take a look at this post and try google again Wink

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go to Amazon.comn and look through their used books. I got 4 books on ASM and one on C++ for like $8 (for all of them). Time shipping and tax and stuff I spend around $26 for more books than I can read and absorb in a year.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 5:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yea, most of the time books are better, but i do not see a reason to have 4 ASM books Laughing Youll read them all?
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bepetemish wrote:
yea, most of the time books are better, but i do not see a reason to have 4 ASM books Laughing Youll read them all?


well at least you'll zoom through the other 3 books and understand them better , be like revising and you learn lots and better with a little revising, I do it all the time over a period of time Very Happy

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok, im going a little offtopic now but what i do is registering to newsbriefs with the subject security. Their are a serveral big sites with a newsletter that lets you know the details of new a new virus or trojan and how to protect yourself. In the newsletter they tell you exactly how the virus/trojan works so they can explain you how to protect yourself. These newsletters comes with more subjects,, not only virusses or trojans but also "dangerous security problems in linux" and all kind of stuff. These newsletters are a source of information and you can learn a lot abot them. I really suggest everyone that want to be a "hacker" registers to atleast one of these newsletter communitys.

These newsletters won't learn you anything about asm so thats why this is off-topic, but with this post i want to let peaple know that yo need to be up-to-date and that "hacking" will recuire a whole .. call it stdy.. before you can do anything.. (using CE on games isnt hacking)

And for ME (<==username me, so i do not mean me bepetemish) 1 book was enough for me, if i wanted to know more i use google. I don't got enough money to buy 3 books of the same subject so i needed to deal with one, maiby thats why i had enough with 1 book because i had no other choice. Still i do not doubt about what ME is saying is true.

btw. ME i hate your username Laughing

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 10:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bepetemish wrote:
btw. ME i hate your username Laughing


I was thinking of changing my username to I,
that way I would not get confused with me,
then again how about "you" as a username,
if you was my username then I would not be confused with me or U and you would know it was you posting and not me or I Wink

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am new to this forum. I hope to find something different here. I found it. Thanks alot for the information!
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 3:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I am new to this forum. I hope to find something different here. I found it. Thanks alot for the information!


No, problem Razz


Quote:
I was thinking of changing my username to I,
that way I would not get confused with me,
then again how about "you" as a username,
if you was my username then I would not be confused with me or U and you would know it was you posting and not me or I


How do they say that.. from bad to worse or something like that Very Happy

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 5:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found this useful link for my first program in assembly but i'm 'not allowed to use url's yet' WTF??? so if i want to help ya, i can't???
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 5:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cant you place the link in code tags? or just say:

google

use .com

everyone would know they need to go to google.com

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yodaman wrote:
Go to Amazon.comn and look through their used books. I got 4 books on ASM and one on C++ for like $8 (for all of them). Time shipping and tax and stuff I spend around $26 for more books than I can read and absorb in a year.



This is a very good reply on information. Note it defiantly isnt free.
But you can go to local book store and actually look in a few books about what you want. Then turn it over and look at the price. aghhhhhh $40.00.

Turn right around and go to amazon and get the exact same book used/new
less then half price.
Look at the ones that say like new, i have several books on many things and they all come to me brand new , but i pay used. People just buy stuff and dont use it then sell it. even the books with cd's have not been opened.

So the point im making is, you can see the book before you even buy it on amazon to know if it is to your liking or not.
There are some that are older books you wont see in the books stores, and you have to chance it on those by reading peoples feed back on them.
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