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Sathanas069
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 1:52 am    Post subject: If you're an athiest don't go here Reply with quote

If The Creator (put it that way because other religions don't know God or Jesus as The Maker, like Muslim believe Alah) made all everything, that make us great but not beyond The Creator.

But what if we are The Creator, like all inventors or just any animators, we would want to make something that is far beyond what we could do, let say I'm a man with disabled legs, if I were to draw something I would draw a man running freely out in the yonder, and if that would likely be it, that would just make us better than The Creator because The Creator made us better?

Question is:

Are we made to be better than The Creator (God, Alah, Buddha...or what other believe)? Is one of the things we are better because of free will?

Additionals:

Those people who believe that God created us to be imperfect, then that just made God Imperpect too?

God created us better because God created us to be better even than Him. And by that God is perfect because us His creations are better than perfect.

My own idea... God created us to be better than Him so that we could live a righteous life. God gave us Free Will to learn and understand every aspect of life, by making our own decision. In my own thoughts God created us better than Him because He created us to be better.


Please right good opinion of what you could say to this.

One more thing if please understand the post, if not, please don't post here.

Edit: I got a wrong spelling really sorry.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 1:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I disobeyed your topic subject, and all I have to say is

wat

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 2:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wouldn't surprise me.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 2:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry, cause my explanation is really hard to interpret.

Editted the 1st topic, see if it clears things up
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 3:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

more like you don't make sense. No it does not make you greater than a so called "creator" because a creator defines the rules and laws this universe runs on. We can only harness those laws, not create them. That's if there is a higher power.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 3:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If your the creator would you dream of making something weaker than you or better than you?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 3:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm an Atheist. You force me to come here, and say what I mean about Relegiong -> .. The Bible, written by some lunatic from LONG ago, and he sold it, and he's a rich bastard these days.. Same with the Coran or whatever it's called.. Religions has only made bad things (war, death etc etc) never something good? They also stole your money back then. Tell me why it is SO GOOD to believe in something that actually doesn't exist? The chance of seeing a flying squirrel in a helicopter with a bazooka and a lightsaber, is so much bigger? ..

--> And for your topic :: How the hell would you "create" yourself?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 3:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanatos069 wrote:
If your the creator would you dream of making something weaker than you or better than you?
you have no relevance. the laws of the universe are weaker than the creator who can overule these laws. therefore your point has no basis.

Atheism is for the ignorant.

Agnosticism is the way to go.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 4:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Asbetos wrote:
I'm an Atheist. You force me to come here, and say what I mean about Relegiong -> .. The Bible, written by some lunatic from LONG ago, and he sold it, and he's a rich bastard these days.. Same with the Coran or whatever it's called.. Religions has only made bad things (war, death etc etc) never something good? They also stole your money back then. Tell me why it is SO GOOD to believe in something that actually doesn't exist? The chance of seeing a flying squirrel in a helicopter with a bazooka and a lightsaber, is so much bigger? ..

--> And for your topic :: How the hell would you "create" yourself?


If you believe you can make something happen, and if you have faith anything is truthful and is reality.

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Thanatos069 wrote:
If your the creator would you dream of making something weaker than you or better than you?
you have no relevance. the laws of the universe are weaker than the creator who can overule these laws. therefore your point has no basis.

Atheism is for the ignorant.

Agnosticism is the way to go.


I just came up with a suggestion that is really hard to interpret and even if it will be clear people would think it is still non-sense, I just want people to see my statement.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 4:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A tip: Buddha wasn't a god...
He wasn't a creator. Smile
He was a man with a certain way of life, followed by many.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 4:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanatos, its better if you take off the Atheist part because it will attract them.

Anyway, if we were god then imagine this (before continuing, just letting you know I'm not trying to offend you), Your mother caught some drunk kids on your lawn and about 3 feet away from the porch. So she calls the police, and while there coming she came outside and warned them. Somehow they got piss and suddenly a lightning bolt struck her and she explodes into pieces, then bunch of rats came out and ran away with her parts, eating and gnawing on them.

If we even have gods power, most people would use it for their own pleasure and pain for everyone else. They would mix fiction and nonfiction together.

If you think drawing is power, well God's drawing is ALOT better since it can talk, breathe, eat, think, understand, ect. And I'm not just talking about humans.

BTW, its easier to ask the Pastor, Priest, Bishop, ect. about this and they can explain alot better
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 8:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LolSalad wrote:
I disobeyed your topic subject, and all I have to say is

wat



See ^

Also

OP stole my name D:

Also, oldfags>normal ppl>Allah>Buddha>(ratpor) Jesus>other gods>newfags>newfagsthatstealnames
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 8:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hardly see how:

-Greed
-dishonesty
-Mistrust in others
-Power hungry
-Selfish
-Arrogant
-racist
-No real natural defence against any other animal
-kill our own just for the hell of it
-have more diseases than other animals
-doesnt care for environment but only for self gain.

make humans greater than anything....

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 9:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BeastKing wrote:
Thanatos, its better if you take off the Atheist part because it will attract them.

Anyway, if we were god then imagine this (before continuing, just letting you know I'm not trying to offend you), Your mother caught some drunk kids on your lawn and about 3 feet away from the porch. So she calls the police, and while there coming she came outside and warned them. Somehow they got piss and suddenly a lightning bolt struck her and she explodes into pieces, then bunch of rats came out and ran away with her parts, eating and gnawing on them.

If we even have gods power, most people would use it for their own pleasure and pain for everyone else. They would mix fiction and nonfiction together.

If you think drawing is power, well God's drawing is ALOT better since it can talk, breathe, eat, think, understand, ect. And I'm not just talking about humans.

BTW, its easier to ask the Pastor, Priest, Bishop, ect. about this and they can explain alot better


If God is just like a little boy drawing a hero, would he make it better than him? so if that is it, God created us to be better, am I right?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 9:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

redslothx wrote:
I hardly see how:

-Greed
-dishonesty
-Mistrust in others
-Power hungry
-Selfish
-Arrogant
-racist
-No real natural defence against any other animal
-kill our own just for the hell of it
-have more diseases than other animals
-doesnt care for environment but only for self gain.

make humans greater than anything....

Despite all that we are still the smartest creature that we know of.
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