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raidos Advanced Cheater
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Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 10:04 pm Post subject: Trainer Making. |
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Not sure if this is the right section, please correct me if I'm not.
Ok I just want to know a good program to make trainers in and also some good sites to make simple trainers in. I just want to learn the basics of trainer making as I only want to make a trainer that easily adds and subtracts from button inputs. Like a pre-set calculator to b better put. So if anyone can help that would be wonderful.
Thanks a lot guys.
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larry1992 How do I cheat?
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Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 4:15 am Post subject: |
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I think it's not the right section, I think you need to post this at the trainers section.
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Symbol I'm a spammer
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Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 6:41 am Post subject: |
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Actually this should be at the general programming section.
Which language are you coding it with?
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Labyrnth Moderator
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Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 1:30 pm Post subject: |
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| You can look up some trainer source and make the best of it for what ever language you want to work with.
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d3monhax0r Cheater
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Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 12:17 pm Post subject: |
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| use visual basic 6.0
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buzzah Grandmaster Cheater
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Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 7:55 am Post subject: |
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The corect section for this would be in Cheat Engine Tutorials.
IF you want to know use search, I recommend Visual Basic 6 Portable, and delphi.
For an easy trainer guide use one of the belows...
http://forum.cheatengine.org/viewtopic.php?t=180017
(How to make an AQ Trainer, includes VB6 Portable and VB 2008 express edition inside.
http://forum.cheatengine.org/viewtopic.php?t=168346&start=0
(Random guide, go for beginners, shows all the basics).
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PIGTAILԹ Grandmaster Cheater Supreme
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Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 7:59 am Post subject: |
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| use trainer maker or the cheatenginr
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buzzah Grandmaster Cheater
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| ghostonline wrote: | | use trainer maker or the cheatenginr |
The trainer making kit is pretty lame, using VB or delphi is recommended, you get more experience.
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Chase Payne Grandmaster Cheater
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I recommend ce alone.... ce does enough you don't have to spend hours converting injections to bytes just because you want cool music or whatever.
Honestly people don't care about the cool music... because almost every program does it.... so they won't be amused.... so stop wasting your damn time on a trainer that does the exact same thing.
Not to offend anyone but music makes trainers like 600kb and people get scared to use it for virus reasons. If you want experince.... rewrite minesweeper or something...
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AdamWest Master Cheater
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Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 9:17 am Post subject: Re: Trainer Making. |
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| raidos wrote: | Not sure if this is the right section, please correct me if I'm not.
Ok I just want to know a good program to make trainers in and also some good sites to make simple trainers in. I just want to learn the basics of trainer making as I only want to make a trainer that easily adds and subtracts from button inputs. Like a pre-set calculator to b better put. So if anyone can help that would be wonderful.
Thanks a lot guys. |
Learn VB6 or try the Cheat Engine Trainer Tutorial
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Psy Grandmaster Cheater Supreme
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| Chase Payne wrote: | I recommend ce alone.... ce does enough you don't have to spend hours converting injections to bytes just because you want cool music or whatever.
Honestly people don't care about the cool music... because almost every program does it.... so they won't be amused.... so stop wasting your damn time on a trainer that does the exact same thing.
Not to offend anyone but music makes trainers like 600kb and people get scared to use it for virus reasons. If you want experince.... rewrite minesweeper or something... |
Ok, CE doing 'enough' is your opinion only mate.
People who want to learn and do better things won't just settle for CE.
It doesn't take hours converting injections to bytes at all. Not if you know what you are doing and have an effective method of doing it. I've written specific modules myself for VB for example that make it very easy to do this sort of thing, and tailor it to exactly how I want (<- that'll be the plus-side of coding in a language yourself). And converting to bytes has nothing to do with attaining 'cool music' in the sense you are referring to it.
Music taking 600kb? Well I dunno what sort of app your using, or method, but my trainers tend to have a custom chip in there, and this 'cool music' takes nothing like 600kb. More towards the 20kb at very most when the app is fully compiled and linked. The virus reasons, are caused by the file packers/protectors people use, and it has nothing to do with resources in the file such as music and such.
Chill dude, we know you like minesweeper
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Labyrnth Moderator
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Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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| buzzah wrote: |
The trainer making kit is pretty lame |
Not really TMK or GTS and Cheat Engine are very much a good suggestion to beginners.
Reason I think this way is because , if you try to make a trainer with any programming language you already do not know how to do and want to learn.
Then you will lose interest in trying. Now by using any of the builds, you can keep interested and learn how to write one in a language you choose, all while having fun making releases with a build and not give up so easy.
You will want to continue hacking games and improve the look of your own trainer by learning to do it your self.
Very simple and to the point.
Much suggested is TMK, GTS or CE.
I know of people who use TMK and can hack almost anything you put in front of them.
But do not code yet, so they use these builds. Nothing wrong with it at all and should not be ashamed for using it.
I still use TMK form time to time. It is what i started with and have releases also.
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STN I post too much
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Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 5:14 am Post subject: |
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| Chase Payne wrote: | I recommend ce alone.... ce does enough you don't have to spend hours converting injections to bytes just because you want cool music or whatever.
Honestly people don't care about the cool music... because almost every program does it.... so they won't be amused.... so stop wasting your damn time on a trainer that does the exact same thing.
Not to offend anyone but music makes trainers like 600kb and people get scared to use it for virus reasons. If you want experince.... rewrite minesweeper or something... |
[Psych] said everything that i wanted to say. If you're coding in c/c++ or asm, the size hardly goes above 100kb+ with all the cool demo effects and music included and then packing/compressing them yields just 50-70kb file.
You're suggesting ce but ce trainer without any gui(the default look) is above 200+kb. Imagine adding some pictures, on top of it you can't pack it as it already uses a modified upx.
So what will you prefer ? CE or a sweet demo trainer in c/c++/asm with a tune and the size just barely 50-70kb
PS: i certainly don't mean to degrade ce
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