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1. Cell- 8 cores, 7 active, 1 for redundancy. Why is this good? This is excellent for the consumers. It solves a lot of defects, reducing complaints and defective systems. Sony learned something from their PS2 fiasco. But aside from its ability to warrant from damage, the Cell processor is a dedicated processor especially designed for gaming. How? Because of its 7 core architecture, Cell allows developers to designate each core to a specific task. This allow multitasking at its peak. What does this mean to games? More sparks, more people, more physics, better AI, more particles, more of everything at the same time on the same HD TV. The Cell processor undoubted sets the PS3 a bar ahead of all other consoles.
2. Blue-Ray Disk- 52 gig of space to use. No matter how you look at it, bigger space is better. More room for developers to fill. Better graphics, sounds, physics, AI, longer games, more modes, more maps, everything. A $1000 value, now yours for only $600. Play movies at high definition, games at high def. BR is very important to gaming. With a new leap in generation, came a new leap in media. Sony had always shown this: PS-CD, PS2-DVD, PS3-BD. This technology removes the limit that developers get when making a game.
3. Sony- This may not be a pro (probably a shade of gray). But Sony has established itself in the industry. Leading the gaming industry, Sony has been regarded as an elite manufacturer. Consumers trust Sony, especially Playstation. The fanbase of this title causes great support, which will drive BD, lowering the cost of production, which is good for consumers.
4. Games- Why do gamers buy consoles? For the games, of course. PS3 is backwards compatible to all previous Playstation/PS2 titles. Great games such as FF, MGS, DMC, KZ, Soccom, Assassin's Creed, Heavenly Sword, etc are all Playstation exclusives and will probably stay that way. With such attractive games, Playstation 3 has a great chance of delivering in the third round.
5. 3rd party support- PS3 has an extensive amount of 3rd party supporters from all over the world. It is the most supported system out of the three consoles. This probably means, more games, more innovations, etc. More developments will create a better understanding of the PS3, thus allowing better utilization and better optimization.
6. Controller- (shade of gray) Ok, I know you are probably saying, "Sony is a thief, they stole the controller from Nintendo." And I agree. However, it doesn't change the fact that motion sensor is a good thing. Combined with standard and extremely comfortable control scheme with R2 and L2 buttons enlarged to form trigger-like buttons, the controller offers both innovation and comfort. But a lack of rumble seriously dampens the entire situation. Undoubtedly, a 3rd party controller will arise to fill the rumble along with the motion sensor. But just like the Wiimote, the DualSensor? controller allows a lot of innovative games and creativity in the PS3 game lineup.
7. Playstation Network- (shade of gray) Sony can seriously screw this up. Even though they are copying Live, it doesn't change the fact that unified and free *for now* online gaming is an excellent idea, just like copying the Wiimote. I'll reiterate: FREE ONLINE GAMING. There...however, this is Sony's first time doing this, so it might be a piece of junk compared to Live. But judging from screenshots, it doesn't look that bad. By the way, it looks just like the PSP OS thing which is kinda cool.
8. Hard Drives- With the PS3, hard drives are now STANDARD. This means that developers will be able to use the hard drives to drive gameplay or to speed up and reduce load time. This allows a lot of flexibility for games. It can be used for downloads, game saves, music saves, etc. I am personally really excited about this.
9. 1080p- True HD. Although games probably wont reach this resolution in the next few years, eventually, games will use it, and it will be big. It will be one of the points that leads PS3 ahead of its competitions. Grand Turismo demo at E3 2006 showed that the PS3 is capable of running a game at 1080p at 60 frames per second. If developers can do it now, wait till 4 years from now.
10. Web Browsing- Just like the PSP. This is probably an obvious step, considering that the PS3 allows usb plug-ins for keyboard and mouse. The PS3 will be like a mini-computer. The web browsing feature will be useful. I would love to sit on my couch, turn on my 32" HD TV, and check my email. How cool is that!. A small advantage, but it is pretty cool.
11. PSP- The PS3 can connect to the PSP to enhence gameplay. So far, all we've seen is the F1 demo where the PSP was used as a mirror for the car, but this can be an interesting functionality. Sony has also announced that the PSP can also be a controller for the PS3, which is kinda cool, but I'd rather have the wireless PS3 controllers.8. Hard Drives- With the PS3, hard drives are now STANDARD. This means that developers will be able to use the hard drives to drive gameplay or to speed up and reduce load time. This allows a lot of flexibility for games. It can be used for downloads, game saves, music saves, etc. I am personally really excited about this.
9. 1080p- True HD. Although games probably wont reach this resolution in the next few years, eventually, games will use it, and it will be big. It will be one of the points that leads PS3 ahead of its competitions. Grand Turismo demo at E3 2006 showed that the PS3 is capable of running a game at 1080p at 60 frames per second. If developers can do it now, wait till 4 years from now.
10. Web Browsing- Just like the PSP. This is probably an obvious step, considering that the PS3 allows usb plug-ins for keyboard and mouse. The PS3 will be like a mini-computer. The web browsing feature will be useful. I would love to sit on my couch, turn on my 32" HD TV, and check my email. How cool is that!. A small advantage, but it is pretty cool.
11. PSP- The PS3 can connect to the PSP to enhence gameplay. So far, all we've seen is the F1 demo where the PSP was used as a mirror for the car, but this can be an interesting functionality. Sony has also announced that the PSP can also be a controller for the PS3, which is kinda cool, but I'd rather have the wireless PS3 controllers.
I didn't feel like typing all this, so I copyed andpasted from here(below)
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/49170/pros_and_cons_of_playstation_3.html
All credits go to the link above.
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| HornyAZNBoy wrote: | 1. Cell- 8 cores, 7 active, 1 for redundancy. Why is this good? This is excellent for the consumers. It solves a lot of defects, reducing complaints and defective systems. Sony learned something from their PS2 fiasco. But aside from its ability to warrant from damage, the Cell processor is a dedicated processor especially designed for gaming. How? Because of its 7 core architecture, Cell allows developers to designate each core to a specific task. This allow multitasking at its peak. What does this mean to games? More sparks, more people, more physics, better AI, more particles, more of everything at the same time on the same HD TV. The Cell processor undoubted sets the PS3 a bar ahead of all other consoles.
2. Blue-Ray Disk- 52 gig of space to use. No matter how you look at it, bigger space is better. More room for developers to fill. Better graphics, sounds, physics, AI, longer games, more modes, more maps, everything. A $1000 value, now yours for only $600. Play movies at high definition, games at high def. BR is very important to gaming. With a new leap in generation, came a new leap in media. Sony had always shown this: PS-CD, PS2-DVD, PS3-BD. This technology removes the limit that developers get when making a game.
3. Sony- This may not be a pro (probably a shade of gray). But Sony has established itself in the industry. Leading the gaming industry, Sony has been regarded as an elite manufacturer. Consumers trust Sony, especially Playstation. The fanbase of this title causes great support, which will drive BD, lowering the cost of production, which is good for consumers.
4. Games- Why do gamers buy consoles? For the games, of course. PS3 is backwards compatible to all previous Playstation/PS2 titles. Great games such as FF, MGS, DMC, KZ, Soccom, Assassin's Creed, Heavenly Sword, etc are all Playstation exclusives and will probably stay that way. With such attractive games, Playstation 3 has a great chance of delivering in the third round.
5. 3rd party support- PS3 has an extensive amount of 3rd party supporters from all over the world. It is the most supported system out of the three consoles. This probably means, more games, more innovations, etc. More developments will create a better understanding of the PS3, thus allowing better utilization and better optimization.
6. Controller- (shade of gray) Ok, I know you are probably saying, "Sony is a thief, they stole the controller from Nintendo." And I agree. However, it doesn't change the fact that motion sensor is a good thing. Combined with standard and extremely comfortable control scheme with R2 and L2 buttons enlarged to form trigger-like buttons, the controller offers both innovation and comfort. But a lack of rumble seriously dampens the entire situation. Undoubtedly, a 3rd party controller will arise to fill the rumble along with the motion sensor. But just like the Wiimote, the DualSensor? controller allows a lot of innovative games and creativity in the PS3 game lineup.
7. Playstation Network- (shade of gray) Sony can seriously screw this up. Even though they are copying Live, it doesn't change the fact that unified and free *for now* online gaming is an excellent idea, just like copying the Wiimote. I'll reiterate: FREE ONLINE GAMING. There...however, this is Sony's first time doing this, so it might be a piece of junk compared to Live. But judging from screenshots, it doesn't look that bad. By the way, it looks just like the PSP OS thing which is kinda cool.
8. Hard Drives- With the PS3, hard drives are now STANDARD. This means that developers will be able to use the hard drives to drive gameplay or to speed up and reduce load time. This allows a lot of flexibility for games. It can be used for downloads, game saves, music saves, etc. I am personally really excited about this.
9. 1080p- True HD. Although games probably wont reach this resolution in the next few years, eventually, games will use it, and it will be big. It will be one of the points that leads PS3 ahead of its competitions. Grand Turismo demo at E3 2006 showed that the PS3 is capable of running a game at 1080p at 60 frames per second. If developers can do it now, wait till 4 years from now.
10. Web Browsing- Just like the PSP. This is probably an obvious step, considering that the PS3 allows usb plug-ins for keyboard and mouse. The PS3 will be like a mini-computer. The web browsing feature will be useful. I would love to sit on my couch, turn on my 32" HD TV, and check my email. How cool is that!. A small advantage, but it is pretty cool.
11. PSP- The PS3 can connect to the PSP to enhence gameplay. So far, all we've seen is the F1 demo where the PSP was used as a mirror for the car, but this can be an interesting functionality. Sony has also announced that the PSP can also be a controller for the PS3, which is kinda cool, but I'd rather have the wireless PS3 controllers.8. Hard Drives- With the PS3, hard drives are now STANDARD. This means that developers will be able to use the hard drives to drive gameplay or to speed up and reduce load time. This allows a lot of flexibility for games. It can be used for downloads, game saves, music saves, etc. I am personally really excited about this.
9. 1080p- True HD. Although games probably wont reach this resolution in the next few years, eventually, games will use it, and it will be big. It will be one of the points that leads PS3 ahead of its competitions. Grand Turismo demo at E3 2006 showed that the PS3 is capable of running a game at 1080p at 60 frames per second. If developers can do it now, wait till 4 years from now.
10. Web Browsing- Just like the PSP. This is probably an obvious step, considering that the PS3 allows usb plug-ins for keyboard and mouse. The PS3 will be like a mini-computer. The web browsing feature will be useful. I would love to sit on my couch, turn on my 32" HD TV, and check my email. How cool is that!. A small advantage, but it is pretty cool.
11. PSP- The PS3 can connect to the PSP to enhence gameplay. So far, all we've seen is the F1 demo where the PSP was used as a mirror for the car, but this can be an interesting functionality. Sony has also announced that the PSP can also be a controller for the PS3, which is kinda cool, but I'd rather have the wireless PS3 controllers.
I didn't feel like typing all this, so I copyed andpasted from here(below)
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/49170/pros_and_cons_of_playstation_3.html
All credits go to the link above. |
This'll take awhile...
1. 8 cores? Overkill much? The 360 has a unique tri-core and has not shown any lag, even on the most graphic intensive games dev's have to offer for the platform. Also, they're cache is lacking.
2. 360 can have 120GB, and it is detachable (use on any system)
... as explained before, BR is coming in April for 360.
3. So is Microsoft... neither a pro or con, completely unrelated to system performance.
4. 360 is also backwards compatible with regular xbox games, and that list is not correct, assassin's creed is not a sony exclusive.
5. No proof what-so-ever supporting this. If you ask me, Microsoft has much more support.
6. Controller is a complete rip, doesn't matter, already explained about sixaxis.
7. -yawn- Also, as the creator of that review has noticed, the PS3 is a rip of just about everything.
8. Ok, doesn't compare with 360, both have harddrives.
9. I can run 720 on my computer monitor, guaranteed it's capable of the same and more on a HD LCD screen.
10. I'll admit, pretty cool, but still possible with xbox 360 if you want it.
11. They have PSP, we have windows connect, if you ask me, I'd prefer windows connect + more.
FYI, that list was not very comparable... pretty broad spectrum.
| Another human wrote: | Not to mention we are going to get Crysis for the PS3. rawzors.
| Quote: | | You can access internet from any device that has access to the Internet, as long as it can plug into it -_-. |
Show me you, Youtubing a video on your 360. WITH the remote. Not to mention the PS3 is capable of actually running an OS with some cracks.
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Doesn't look better, and is no where near as customizable as the 360. Besides, looks is just an opinion. |
I agree, I wish my PS3 had cheap faceplates, how ever shall I live? /bleeding sarcasm.
| Quote: | | Doesn't surprise me that you don't need to pay for online since it is not even comparable to Xbox LIVE. |
I'll give you that one.
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There are mods to incorporate sixaxis control, which by the way is overrated. |
But that is not an option for the average gamer. Since it would be to hard to actually accomplish. Not to mention you will probably have to buy some parts. Installing the OS would be a lot easier and no extra parts required.
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The only reason Crysis has gotten so much attention is because it takes so much to run it in DX10. I doubt you'll be getting the full blown edition for the PS3.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ffDta8SDUXc
Cheap faceplates? the faceplates are made of the same thing your PS3 is.
regarding controller: if you actually look at how to do it, it is EXTREMELY simple. besides, who would want that instead of a nice analog stick, much more controllable than a sixaxis controller.
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| Quote: | | Don’t go jumping for joy yet though, as noted before in our article the only kernels vulnerable to the exploit were patched before the hack was released to the public. If you have an old 360 with a kernel prior to version 2532, you’ll need to do some damn smart work to upgrade it to a vulnerable version |
So... Did I basically just read that it doesn't really work anymore? I think so.
The internet on the PS3 is available to everyone who purchased the system. No need to mess with the insides to get it working.
And as for cheap faceplates... They are cheap. Not that I'm complaining. There not made of the same stuff as the PS3. The PS3 is made out of awesomeness, faceplates,not.
(On a serious note, are they really made out of the same material?)
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You could still flash your firmware to make it work...
And I do believe they are made out of the same thing, a lot of products are though.
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In my opinion, PS3s are better.
1. Blu-ray
2. Free online
3. Built in harddrive (360: 20 gig harddrive = $60. Wtf?)
4. More reliable: My good friend has a 360. He had to take a brand-new, still in box 360 back to Gamespot FOUR times before he got a working one, the fifth one breaking after about a month of use had to be shipped back to Microsoft for a replacement.
5. Awesome controller. Been the same since PS1, still love it. 360 controllers are kind of hard to hold, in my opinion.
6. Made by Sony, who seem to use less cheap parts than Microsoft. Still, the GameCube seems to be the most god damn hard to break system on the planet. Twice have I seen my friend's GC drop about 5 feet onto his cement floor without even skipping.
7. Many exclusive titles such as Socom, which requires a good amount of skill. 360 has, what, Halo? I've played Halo 3, both through story a few times and online. it gets very boring after not very long.
I like the 360, but all those god damn interfaces makes it a pain in the ass so use. If I put in a game, when I turn on the console I expect to play the game, not have to wait 5 minutes for the damn interfaces to load up.
PS3 > Wii > 360.
That's just my opinion.
Please note, I don't even own a PS3, 360 or Wii. I have various friends that do, however, and this is my opinion.
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Above all, I'd have to say Atari > Everything else.
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LoL
I love how Ps3 owners try to come up with crazy arguments trying to make themselves feel better about wasting money on a useless box.
Poor kids, we all make mistakes!
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| Zarr wrote: | In my opinion, PS3s are better.
1. Blu-ray
2. Free online
3. Built in harddrive (360: 20 gig harddrive = $60. Wtf?)
4. More reliable: My good friend has a 360. He had to take a brand-new, still in box 360 back to Gamespot FOUR times before he got a working one, the fifth one breaking after about a month of use had to be shipped back to Microsoft for a replacement.
5. Awesome controller. Been the same since PS1, still love it. 360 controllers are kind of hard to hold, in my opinion.
6. Made by Sony, who seem to use less cheap parts than Microsoft. Still, the GameCube seems to be the most god damn hard to break system on the planet. Twice have I seen my friend's GC drop about 5 feet onto his cement floor without even skipping.
7. Many exclusive titles such as Socom, which requires a good amount of skill. 360 has, what, Halo? I've played Halo 3, both through story a few times and online. it gets very boring after not very long.
I like the 360, but all those god damn interfaces makes it a pain in the ass so use. If I put in a game, when I turn on the console I expect to play the game, not have to wait 5 minutes for the damn interfaces to load up.
PS3 > Wii > 360.
That's just my opinion.
Please note, I don't even own a PS3, 360 or Wii. I have various friends that do, however, and this is my opinion. |
1. Already told you 360 will have Blu Ray by the end of April.
2. Free online... that is no where near comparable to Xbox LIVE.
3. How is a built in HD a pro? 360 has a detachable one that you can plug into any Xbox 360. Also you can get 20GB or 120GB.
4. I've had my Xbox 360 since they were released. No problems.
5. The controller is the same as PS1... They are just taking the money from your pockets when they don't come up with new designs.
6. You have no proof to back up that claim, don't even try, as it is not true.
7. All systems have exclusive games. Putting down Halo?
Tell that to 781,898 people online right now, at 6:30 in the fucking morning.
The game needs to load, just like any game you've ever played. Also, both have 5400RPM HDDs.
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| Daaamon wrote: | LoL
I love how Ps3 owners try to come up with crazy arguments trying to make themselves feel better about wasting money on a useless box.
Poor kids, we all make mistakes! |
I thought you died lolz
yea and me too.
| ControlAltDelete wrote: | | PS3 has Wireless internet,You got owned with yor Shit Box Puke 60. |
Xbox 360 does too, extra $100. Very cheap.
| Another human wrote: | Kewl never replied..
The PS3 is better. I can access the internet from a giant plasma TV. Not to mention no lag, looks better (Admit it Madman) , controllers doesn use batteries, and you don't need to pay for an account that has access to PS3 online. |
I can too. 100 in, looks very nice with Halo 3 team slayer, rechargeable battery, pathetic PS3 users still use the god damn cord so when they walk too far, they disconnect the PS3, and if its 5 ft in the air, BYE BYE! and PS3 freeloners online. Xbox Live is god. Marketplace, so many people to talk to, 1 million online at 2 in the fucking morning. ON HALO 3!
I forgot to mention the 10,000 people using PS3 online daily.
Don't be mad because you wasted your money on such a crappy system, and almost died if u didn't have it (there were shootings for the PS3), just because it saved your life doesn't mean you have to keep it. Dunno if you can return it with the bullet still in it though.
Don't they like have 20 games for the PS3? and people, BLUE RAY IS NOT AN ADVANTAGE! they have like 50 movies with that. Most of them disney classics like Dumbo or Beauty and the beast.
The PS3 fails.
I admit that i would like an extra four wireless controller compatitbility for the Xbox 360, for 8 gamers at once, but then again I would need two screens, for it would be very fucked up. 
And people, how hard is it to run out to Home Depot, get 5 packs of Double A batteries with 50 in each for $50-$80 bucks? seriously, you guys dont have that much money to spend do you? 16 hours of life per battery,
250 batteries, 4000 hours of life, 167 FULL days of Xbox 360, that will satisfy the normal gamer for a year. (except addicts, they might run them down by summer if they start in January.)
I espicially forgot to say the available oppurtunities to download new demos the day advertised. (Dunno if PS3 has Marketplace like the Xbox)
Not to mention all of the fucking rapists online PS3, the same ones you saw on Tv at the Walmart the day it came out looking for children who were getting the PS3, after failing at kidnapping some of them, they think they can still have the chance by tricking one while online. Xbox 360 has teenagers and young adults (mostly irish and brits) who kick ass! WOO
XBOX 360 IS THA SHIZNIT! (Don't worry, I'll never say that again.
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just get a normal XBOX, then your problems will be solved...
XBOX 360 kinda sucks
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| HornyAZNBoy wrote: | 1. Cell is monstrously powerful, yes, yields are not perfect however. Not every single core is guaranteed to work. Obviously a certain number have to, I think it was 7.
2. Blu-Ray drives are hilariously slow, this has been somewhat fixed in later drivers I believe.
3. What does this matter?
4. DMC, and Assassin's Creed are exclusives? Then what the hell was I just playing on the 360 a while ago? I have Assassin's Creed on my PC right now. MGS will be getting moved to the 360 at this rate, don't expect it for a while after the PS3 one hits though.
5. Developing on the 360 is much easier than the PS3.
6. Motion sensing is a stupid gimmick.
7. Doesn't compare to xbox live.
8. Standard HD's are good.
9. Running anything at 1080p is a miracle for a console, especially since the PS3 is extremely lacking in GPU speed.
10. My Dreamcast did this shit, there is no point to it other than another gimmick.
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